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xxxdesign-net 01-09-2003 01:44 PM

True FREE AVS?!
 
Hi, ok, looking for the best REAL Free AVS.... those are some I found: Is there other? And from experience... let me know which one as been the best for you... which send you decent amount of visitors...

-sexkey.com $15 or $20? ($20 only for january?)
-sexyasv.com- $20
-oneverify.com - $20 and recurring (by the way, anybody understand the "Direct Tour" at http://oneverify.com/webmasters/rates.htm ? )
-adultlogin.com ($15 but site looks crappy)



-Sexcheck.com (not free)
-freeagecard.com (not really free... or if free, too confusing for surfers)
-Massivepass.com (not free)


Also... with the popular AVS's... anybody ever noticed having many unique visitors into their member area but with only a few sales... (because of the many already members of that AVS)??

m0rph3us 01-09-2003 01:45 PM

what's a true FREE avs?
There's no such thing as a free lunch.

xxxdesign-net 01-09-2003 01:46 PM

Free to join then!? Free trial....

Tipsy 01-09-2003 01:46 PM

Presuming you mean AVS that gives a trial that recurs if not cancelled then FreNetPass is one too.

Ah - edited 'cause I see you did mean that :)

FNP as well then.

xxxdesign-net 01-09-2003 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
FreeNetPass is one too.

Yep, thanks, thats another one! :-)

rowan 01-09-2003 02:20 PM

I came across an AVS entry page before that had two options:

1) 3 day trial
2) 30 MINUTE trial (checked by default)

If you didn't notice that, and didn't cancel within 30 mins, you got billed $37...

cluck 01-09-2003 03:16 PM

FreeAgeCard offers a totally free membership to the AVS, but when signing up for that you get a free trial to their paysite. If you don't cancel the paysite membership in 3 days or whatever you get a big charge. Sounds good to me :thumbsup

andrew1009 01-09-2003 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cluck
FreeAgeCard offers a totally free membership to the AVS, but when signing up for that you get a free trial to their paysite. If you don't cancel the paysite membership in 3 days or whatever you get a big charge. Sounds good to me :thumbsup
... actually with freeagecard the surfer is INIALLY billed the FULL COST of the paysite on signup.

baddog 01-09-2003 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
-adultlogin.com ($15 but site looks crappy)



just for the record, what are you looking at that you thought looked "crappy"

xxxdesign-net 01-09-2003 04:08 PM

Baddog: Well, sorry if it is your site.. (meant crappy design wise)

But quickly compare Adultlogin.com with

http://netverifier.com/getpaid.asp?cs=true&skin=netv&
or
http://sexkey.com/

baddog 01-09-2003 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
Baddog: Well, sorry if it is your site.. (meant crappy design wise)

But quickly compare Adultlogin.com with

http://netverifier.com/getpaid.asp?cs=true&skin=netv&
or
http://sexkey.com/

okay . . . . your point?

drops 01-09-2003 05:07 PM

MassivePass Rocks!

xxxdesign-net 01-09-2003 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog


okay . . . . your point?


My point?.. Well, what is the advantage of joining an AVS site?
The large network of free sites... the more the site look good/professional... the more it is attractive to the surfer... They think they'll get good stuff...
ex.: Proadult.com

By the way Baddog... if the surfer goes checkout your site directory... this is the first site they'll see:
http://www.assgate.com/tb/amateur56/index11.html

Now common... How can I sell an AVS pass with that?!

xxxdesign-net 01-09-2003 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drops
MassivePass Rocks!
Drops: what the Fuck?

I said REAL free trial AVS...!

MassivePass:
"...In order to receive your LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP to MassivePass, you agree to a 1 month paid trial membership to Sexgiant.com for $39.95."

drops 01-09-2003 05:23 PM

and whats wrong with that page?

drops 01-09-2003 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net


Drops: what the Fuck?

I said REAL free trial AVS...!

MassivePass:
"...In order to receive your LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP to MassivePass, you agree to a 1 month paid trial membership to Sexgiant.com for $39.95."


I guess you havent seen who runs Massive Pass..

check my sig..:)

Troels 01-09-2003 05:32 PM

http://www.keyshield.com/ is free.

baddog 01-09-2003 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net


By the way Baddog... if the surfer goes checkout your site directory... this is the first site they'll see:
http://www.assgate.com/tb/amateur56/index11.html

Now common... How can I sell an AVS pass with that?!

it is? what page did you see that on?

BossHawg 01-09-2003 05:40 PM

Contact me at [email protected] .. We are looking for beta testers for our product which is right up your alley.. $20 for TRUE Free signup to something similar to the avs model...

BossHawg

xxxdesign-net 01-09-2003 05:41 PM

Baddog: It was on the "Amateur" category, first link... but I see you are rotating your sites... (not there anymore...)

and Troels: For http://www.keyshield.com/
Yes that's true but common now... $0.50 per Free signup....
OneVerify offer me $20 + 60% recurring...

xxxdesign-net 01-09-2003 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BossHawg
Contact me at [email protected] .. We are looking for beta testers for our product which is right up your alley.. $20 for TRUE Free signup to something similar to the avs model...

BossHawg


BossHawg: Thanks, I'll probably contact you... I'M finishing building the site...

ZoiNk 01-09-2003 05:52 PM

Why are you whining about the quality of the sites on the linklist? If the person hits the linklist, then you don't get credit for the sale anymore. And why are you whining about the quality of porn that they are getting for FREE! Upsell those suckers. Free sites upsell to AVS. AVS upsell to premium avs/sponsors. Premium AVS upsell to sponsors. Sponsors upsell to internet erasers, livecams, other sponsors. It keeps going on and on.
ZoiNk

xxxdesign-net 01-09-2003 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZoiNk
Why are you whining about the quality of the sites on the linklist? If the person hits the linklist, then you don't get credit for the sale anymore. And why are you whining about the quality of porn that they are getting for FREE! Upsell those suckers. Free sites upsell to AVS. AVS upsell to premium avs/sponsors. Premium AVS upsell to sponsors. Sponsors upsell to internet erasers, livecams, other sponsors. It keeps going on and on.
ZoiNk


Zoink: Man you are very intense... First, yes, surfers can go check the site directory... if they like what they see... THey'll use the back button to go signup under my site.... Alot of people go check the directory...! THis is a big reason why you join a ASV! The network of free sites!

Second, at $20 per free signup... I dont need upsales...
Upsales will be pocket change compare to what you'll make with $20 per free sign up....

Troels 01-09-2003 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
Baddog: It was on the "Amateur" category, first link... but I see you are rotating your sites... (not there anymore...)

and Troels: For http://www.keyshield.com/
Yes that's true but common now... $0.50 per Free signup....
OneVerify offer me $20 + 60% recurring...

keyshield.com is totally free to the surfer - email only. Conversions are better than those 4free programs since the surfer can see that they actually GET SOMETHING.

The point of sending traffic is not to get 50 cents per email....

ALL free members you send will see YOUR ads when they surf the site. Build a payperview (like a gold site) site and the surfers will see an add for that site (rotating your sites if you have more PPV's).
If you have no PPV site random PPV sites will be showed from which you'll recieve credit if they sign up.

And ofcourse, the more free members you send the higher your sites will be placed on the link lists. An effective way to stop traffic leechers and their mass generating AVS scripts...

UNLIKE normal AVS's it pays to manage and build a superb site.
Why? Because these are PayPerView sites - you recieve money EVERYTIME surfers access your PPV site. There really isn't an incentive on other AVS's for maintaining a good site, except to please your members (more recurring).

If you browse keyshield.com you'll see very few PPV's (and not the best designs IMO). Get in early.

Build a PPV or two and get an immense traffic flow. And these are targeted surfers. If they sign up for a normal BBW site they will ONLY see BBW PPV sites.

Anyways, it's innovative. Stick to you normal AVS clones if you want or try something else.

:)

ZoiNk 01-09-2003 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net



Zoink: Man you are very intense... First, yes, surfers can go check the site directory... if they like what they see... THey'll use the back button to go signup under my site.... Alot of people go check the directory...! THis is a big reason why you join a ASV! The network of free sites!

Second, at $20 per free signup... I dont need upsales...
Upsales will be pocket change compare to what you'll make with $20 per free sign up....

I disagree, if they go surfing around the list and decide they like it, the site they decide they like they will just simply click the join link again, instead of pressing the back button 3-5 times. They can also find your site again in the linkslist, or they could surf around the 10,000 - 200,000 AVS sites they now have access to. :>
ZoiNk

MejOn 01-09-2003 06:16 PM

I would advise to give a try FAA. It`s work good for me, there are free content and free hosting.

xxxdesign-net 01-09-2003 06:18 PM

Zoink: Yes, you could be right... this is some of the things I'll need to consider before signing up with an AVS....

baddog 01-09-2003 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net



Second, at $20 per free signup... I dont need upsales...
Upsales will be pocket change compare to what you'll make with $20 per free sign up....

pardon me for saying so, but you have a lot to learn young Jedi

ZoiNk 01-09-2003 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
Zoink: Yes, you could be right... this is some of the things I'll need to consider before signing up with an AVS....
No AVS as far as I know "Cookies" the surfer so if you send them to the system, they are yours. If they signup at the "Join now" on the main page, the AVS gets them, if they sign up at a random person's site after they checked out your site then went to the linklist, the person's site they last visited and clicked on "Join now" gets the sale.
Zoink

xxxdesign-net 01-09-2003 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MejOn
I would advise to give a try FAA. It`s work good for me, there are free content and free hosting.
Hehe, FAA is a clone of so many more... I've run into 3 or 4 other avs's with the same join form layout and same offer just before signing up...

Plus, Im not even sure if its really free... and I dont care if it is, its confusing to the surfer....

drops 01-09-2003 06:25 PM

picky? Don't you guys just want the big payouts?

xxxdesign-net 01-09-2003 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog


pardon me for saying so, but you have a lot to learn young Jedi

Hehe, I'll keep you posted on my profits!! :glugglug

baddog 01-09-2003 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
Zoink: Yes, you could be right... this is some of the things I'll need to consider before signing up with an AVS....
error #1, Signing up for an AVS. Sign up for all of them, unless you know them to be dishonest of course.

Don't limit your income potential by using just one AVS.

ZoiNk 01-09-2003 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog


error #1, Signing up for an AVS. Sign up for all of them, unless you know them to be dishonest of course.

Don't limit your income potential by using just one AVS.

I agree, I use around 20 AVSes at the moment in my two lists, depending on the quality of the site.
ZoiNk

Tipsy 01-09-2003 06:43 PM

Gotta say that it's a very odd concept that the look of a site in the links list will affect your sales. Besides which it also means that you have spent no time checking out sites listed on other AVS's. With the excpetion of gold/premium sites ALL avs's will have sites that look like that or worse listed. To single adultlogin out for that is absurd. They have sensible rules, are run by good people and will get your site on Google very quickly (odd but true) so get a thumbs up from me.

baddog 01-09-2003 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
They have sensible rules, are run by good people and will get your site on Google very quickly (odd but true) so get a thumbs up from me.
pretty cool how we do that isn't it :Graucho

thanks for the positive feedback

drops 01-09-2003 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog


pretty cool how we do that isn't it :Graucho

thanks for the positive feedback


waiting for our google listings baddog.. hehe


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