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NewbieNudes 09-13-2010 06:53 AM

Industry Petition for PayPal to accept adult for b2b (and possible b2c too)
 
Feasible? They need to hear us and realize how much they can make from adult, both from a B2B and B2C angle

I was thinking something along the lines of they can do a high hold back and we pay them an annual fee of $5-10k or so for the privilege.

On another angle - aren't they discriminating? GFY lawyers can comment on that

Ok I'll go back to dreaming now

Jdoughs 09-13-2010 06:56 AM

Many adult B2B services do already use paypal.

I imagine that if I applied and asked Paypal Quality Control to look at my site linkspun (adult b2b) that I would get approved and be able to add Pay It Now buttons.

ContentPimp 09-13-2010 07:03 AM

Dream on

mn 09-13-2010 07:05 AM

will not happen

Rankings 09-13-2010 07:10 AM

i dont think paypal needs adult though right now adult could really use some paypal

Adraco 09-13-2010 07:16 AM

Both JuicyAds and Plugrush uses Gaypal, no problems there.

Barefootsies 09-13-2010 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinafaye (Post 17497482)
Dream on

That about sums it up.

pornrecon 09-13-2010 07:22 AM

B2C never gunna happen. B2B see above, already used. Just cant by content through it I believe. Design, links, writing services, domains, hosting, advertising... not a problem.

famous 09-13-2010 07:23 AM

paypal could give a shit about adult. Wont happen :)

adult-help 09-13-2010 07:28 AM

they are not stupid. once you allow adult the scammers will come, and all kinds of shady biz..they sure dont want to end u like epass..it is jsut not worht it for them...

but with little inventiveness some adult companies are already paying via paypal..

SlammedMedia 09-13-2010 07:32 AM

this coming from someone who doesn't even payout his advertisers lol

sologirlcontent 09-13-2010 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2bet (Post 17497500)
i dont think paypal needs adult though right now adult could really use some paypal

:thumbsup

MaDalton 09-13-2010 07:42 AM

i use paypal all the time - just use clean email addresses and do not put "Payment for cumonmyass.com" in the subject line :2 cents:

peakpromo 09-13-2010 07:46 AM

Ha, hell will freeze over first!!! The only thing Paypal ever innovated was it's initial concept and ever since then it's been king of the hill and hasn't done shit. They are sooo afraid of legal issus they wouldn't touch this with a ten-foot pole (no, that's not a porn refrence, lol). Actually, on a serious note I have a client who sells e-cigarettes and Paypal intantly turned them down because of legal issues that industry is facing.

I somewhat undestand Paypal's decision though, the revenue stream might be huge but they (a) don't want to sully their name by going to the "porn underworld" and (b) don't want to get sued. They are a large corporation built on automation, hence are unwilling to add extra overhead to review sites more closely.

Agent 488 09-13-2010 07:46 AM

why bring attention to us?

k0nr4d 09-13-2010 07:49 AM

I phoned paypal a while back asking if i can take money for scripts targetted to the adult industry, and they had no problem wiht it.

tony286 09-13-2010 09:09 AM

B2b is b2b its not adut, selling memberships is adult

Barefootsies 09-13-2010 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony299 (Post 17497909)
B2b is b2b its not adut, selling memberships is adult

True dat.

Davy 09-13-2010 10:01 AM

Don't waste your time. It's pointless.

McSpike 09-13-2010 10:06 AM

And you joined in 03? I don't get it.

Serge Litehead 09-13-2010 10:07 AM

they knew all along from the beginning how much they gonna loose by disabling adult transactions long ago, they are not idiots

tony286 09-13-2010 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 17498123)
they knew all along from the beginning how much they gonna loose by disabling adult transactions long ago, they are not idiots

not really when you look at all the transactions done on line. Adult is a very small fraction of that and a very high maintenance one at that.

Serge Litehead 09-13-2010 10:10 AM

additionally PP is not suitable for receiving payments in many countries unlike Epass has been doing with Visa cards

Serge Litehead 09-13-2010 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony299 (Post 17498128)
not really when you look at all the transactions done on line. Adult is a very small fraction of that and a very high maintenance one at that.

it may not been a very significant stream but i'm sure they had an idea how much roughly they were shutting down by disabling adult, i'm pretty sure it was decision based on sacrifice being able to normally function on US territory get licences and follow all financial regulations. they didn't shut it down simply based on morals or anything like that in my opinion

GrouchyAdmin 09-13-2010 10:31 AM

Someone doesn't understand how 'High Risk' works.

NaughtyRob 09-13-2010 10:35 AM

Adult is a very tiny drop in the bucket to Paypal, it would be a waste of time to try to convince them to take adult. They won't, period.

Wiredoctor 09-13-2010 11:17 AM

PP used to process for adult, hell they even attended mant of the first Internext shows. They learned all about the problems, cheaters, fraud..tec... and decided it was just not worth the hassels.:2 cents:

fitzmulti 09-13-2010 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2bet (Post 17497500)
i dont think paypal needs adult though right now adult could really use some paypal

We need Christopher Walken - "I GOTTA HAVE MORE PAYPAL!"

http://cache.boston.com/images/bosto...en-Cowbell.jpg

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Brad Mitchell 09-13-2010 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewbieNudes (Post 17497459)
Feasible? They need to hear us and realize how much they can make from adult, both from a B2B and B2C angle

I was thinking something along the lines of they can do a high hold back and we pay them an annual fee of $5-10k or so for the privilege.

On another angle - aren't they discriminating? GFY lawyers can comment on that

Ok I'll go back to dreaming now

They scouted our industry for 2 years at conferences and signed business up - lots of years ago. As soon as they went live servicing adult, their shareholders put an immediate end to it. Perhaps in a 2010 economy it wouldn't be an issue - after all, Visa had their IPO right?

Brad

Zorgman 09-13-2010 07:01 PM

Paypal is not a bank. How hard would it be to setup an adult version.

1. Surfer deposits money from his "adult" paypal account - Not VISA or credit card system.
2. Surfer buyers membership with account details
3. Adult Paypal pays site owner minus a % cut for them.

kazbalah 09-14-2010 01:31 AM

I think paypal just doesnt like processing payments for porn surfers - Too many chargebacks.

If you have an adult site that is b2b i believe they will accept it.

They just dont want to process 1000's of porn memberships becuase of the high chargeback rate..

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