Paypal isn't immune from BULLSHIT either
 

Although not as severe. First Epassport, Now Paypal

I don't see anything about paypal.

let me take a wild guess.. you run highrevenue.com? that's the only justification i could see for posting that link.. and even then it'd still be douchebag.

can you guys do articles in the legal niche?

pay pal is not located in curacao and does not off-shore bank with st kitts


intent is 9/10th the law in the US


~Ray

I can't even read the fucking error message.

I can make out something about:

"...your email account for a transaction confirmation after 30 minutes."

"If you came to this page from another website...............restart your activity."

"...restart your activity. You might have to log in again."

Those all sound like programming/software errors. Not like Visa pulling your shit.

Why don't you explain what the problem is with Paypal, if there is one, since even the blog post didn't detail shit. :2 cents:

linkbait ftw :D

Paypal is too big to fail.

huh?

I usually like reading your posts, but what is this? seems useless to me

paypal's had their bumps as well... i remember a period of about 1 week some years back where their atm card didnt work at all. obviously not as sever as the whole epass fiasco since you could still withdraw to bank.

Serves as a reminder to ignore all future posts by $5 submissions

It's an error message you get when you try to send out a payment or move from page to page within the dashboard. It basically says, OOPS! come back to see if your payment went through. Kinda fucked if you're sending a shit load of payments.

Granted, it's not at the same level as Epass' issues but keep in mind that this is a behemoth processor and you'd expect this shit to get cleaned up by now (it's been happening for close to a week now)

Please go on ahead :):thumbsup

Ebay/Paypal facilliate more criminal activity than Epass who could ever dream of.

Full article: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle6074448.ece

In Wikipedia, Ebay is the modern definition of a "fence".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fence_(criminal)

Nothing is ever too big to fail.

Paypal can be a pain in the ass with their freezing of accounts, so why did my account get frozen so many times? because I used it outside my own country, which in Europe isn't that hard to do :)

anwers from Paypal support: just don't use it outside your own country. That's when I stopped using them.

paypal is safer than most banks in the caribbean.

Agreed. Enron. Are we forgetting already?

PayPal use to be pricks but they have been nothing but awesome lately!

I see nothing about paypal ...

Fake drama, nothing to see here.

You say such dumb things

it "possession is nine tenths of the law"

Correct.

Once you start sending money internationally, and for decent dollar amounts, you will get flagged and phone calls checking to see what you are doing. I have clients, vendors, programmers, designers all over the world. So it gets to be a royal pain in the ass.
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I still love you, Epass...

would you rather have that then if some hacker pulled all the cash out of your account and they had no stops to make sure it was legit? Protections are a pain in the ass but they are a good thing and if you are doing such big transactions then a bank wire is a wonderful thing, it costs more but thats the cost of doing international business.

I don't think paypal will get visa processing yanked anytime soon...

This post is learning disabled.

I would rather have them give me a phone call asking me whether I did a transaction, instead of freezing the account all the time, the amount of Paypal freezes makes it useless outside the US as a reliable financial tool.

Once I had to upload the same god damn documents 3 times in a matter of weeks. They clearly don't update their pattern detection in a "those are safe"-way.

I suggested they might implement a safe IP thing, where people could enter the IP of their current location or asked whether they could also not flag IPs from Czech, their reaction: yeah yeah whatever. Their customer support reminds me of iBill. Time for ccBill to start a Paypal killer :-)

For payees you use often there's a way around that BF, it's a matter of having them notate your account per payee. That's assuming you trust the payee and the system.

You're right, it's a pain in the ass. I think we're better off with it than without it though.

This doesn't make sense. Consider this:

If they are doing millions of transactions a month, and if only 1% of these transactions are fraud, that is still alot of phone calls they would have to make.

And, if they suspected that your account had been compromised, the first thing they should do is suspend the account until they can verify with you, the owner of the account, that everything is ok.

If they get 100 fraudulent transactions a day and only 1 is a fake fraud, it makes much more economic sense to suspend all 100 accounts until you contact them to verify the information.

Have you seen any of the fake emails by "Paypal" asking suckers to "verify" their information? They are very well done and dupe alot of people into giving away their info to thieves.

Think of it as a SERVICE when a financial institution freezes your account for possible fraud. If you're not a frauder or doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about. Someone else is trying to mess with you, and Paypal is on the case to protect your money and your identity.

Exactly. And if you try to use the card and it doesn't work because it's frozen, you simply call them. They will verify recent transactions and unfreeze the account. It's a simple process. Happened to me once when I was out to dinner. I grabbed my cell, called the number on the back of the card, verified some recent transactions, and was good to go.

Yeah...probably not!
LOL!
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Oh don't get me wrong, I have no issue with them CALLING ME about shit to make sure it's me. I welcome that. Just like I have no issue with a credit card company asking to speak to me on the phone when I am making a big purchase, or whatever.

What I DO have an issue with is my account being frozen/flagged/reviewed. Even when they talk to you on the phone, they will then have to send it to 'someone' and it takes 24 hours or whatever to remove it. THAT is an inconvenience.

I could understand completely if I was sending to individuals around the world, but typically is it COMPANIES around the world. So you would think that with it being another business that you would not have the issues. More over, once they have talked to you a few times, and made note of what you are doing, or see the same names over and over, that you would not have the issue.
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It's funny to hear people complain about Epassporte now and proclaim their love/trust for Paypal, when a few years ago Paypal was notoriously untrustworthy and was freezing and terminating accounts like crazy.

Agreed.

I know probably a dozen adult industry people, who have had their PP nuked in the past few months. Some who've been with them 10 years plus, and never had a dispute of any kind. Some are designers, programmers, script guys, ad managers, etc.. Basically not people running programs, or doing anything pornographic.

Appears to be no real rhyme or reason anymore. Simply put, if you push any kind of volume revenue, or you do a lot of international business, you are better off doing it via a merchant account.
:2 cents:

Ab-so-fucking-lutely.

they don't have to do it the first time, but don't you think they could tweak their system to calling people after say 3 wrongful freezes? a pattern should be clear by then :)

euh Paypal does sent "Notification of Limited Account Access" e-mails, so yes

haven't you been listening, it's not that I'm worried, it's that it got to be such an annoyance that they've become a last resort, if I can avoid using them, I will

it's just that Paypal is providing a very bad service

their cards are only in the US I believe, if you just have the online account, there is no number to call, you have to scan and upload documents and it can take a while for them to check them

my point exactly, they don't seem to have a learning curve, or they didn't at least 2 years ago

Noticed that Streamray added paypal to their payment option. That is awesome

:2 cents::2 cents:

paypal has always been good to me, fingers crossed, in continues to be so!

The reason PayPal won't fail is because they're owned by Ebay and with Ebay, I'm sure a HUGE portion of all auctions are paid through PayPal, thus, do you think that Ebay will ever let that happen ???

Dangerous. Paying for adult services via Paypal is against their TOS. This risks both Streamray's Paypal account and the girls.

Doesn't it?

hmmm..

Is bullshit inmune to bullshit??

sorry, I misspoke.

Fuck you.

~Ray

Maybe. I hope not. But maybe :disgust