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cambaby 08-31-2010 11:10 AM

Obama the true meaning of CHANGE
 
After 2 years of painstaking research I must admit Barack Obama lived up to one campaign promise.... he promised CHANGE and now I have documented PROOF below. Its the change America has left after he has bankrupt us. Thanks Barry! :thumbsup

http://pocketchange.net46.net/web_images/coins.jpg

ManufacturingMan 08-31-2010 11:13 AM

He is just another Rockefeller lackey, a total bullshit artist conman. :2 cents:

fatfoo 08-31-2010 11:15 AM

Don't try to eat coins. You might choke on them.

Tom_PM 08-31-2010 11:16 AM

His name is Barrack. Maybe you should look up the news sometime. It has peoples names n evertang.

ManufacturingMan 08-31-2010 11:19 AM

His legal name is actually Barry Soetoro. How many how us get to have multiple names on official documents? What a fraud job, madison avenue created con man. :disgust

cambaby 08-31-2010 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17455533)
His name is Barrack. Maybe you should look up the news sometime. It has peoples names n evertang.

Are we sure about that? Who knows with this muslim guy, they change their names like girls change panties. :thumbsup

Tom_PM 08-31-2010 11:21 AM

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NaughtyVisions 08-31-2010 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManufacturingMan (Post 17455541)
His legal name is actually Barry Soetoro. How many how us get to have multiple names on official documents? What a fraud job, madison avenue created con man. :disgust

I usually stay out of political threads, but I'm really curious to see some proof of this. Because my searching ending in the following:

This doesn’t even chronologically make sense. His mom didn’t meet/marry Lolo Soetoro until Barack was about 4 or 5. She was married to Obama, Sr., when Obama, Jr., was born. Why would he have been Barry Soetoro from birth?

He has provided a physical copy of his birth certificate. Annenberg’s Factcheck has verified it.

Born in the U.S.A. - The truth about Obama's birth certificate

From their article:

Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.


(click image for large version)

http://www.factcheck.org/demos/factc...cate/hands.jpg

In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:
http://www.factcheck.org/demos/factc...ntclose-up.jpg

Just asking where the proof is otherwise...

_Richard_ 08-31-2010 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions (Post 17455604)
I usually stay out of political threads, but I'm really curious to see some proof of this. Because my searching ending in the following:

This doesn?t even chronologically make sense. His mom didn?t meet/marry Lolo Soetoro until Barack was about 4 or 5. She was married to Obama, Sr., when Obama, Jr., was born. Why would he have been Barry Soetoro from birth?

He has provided a physical copy of his birth certificate. Annenberg?s Factcheck has verified it.

Born in the U.S.A. - The truth about Obama's birth certificate

From their article:

Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.


(click image for large version)

http://www.factcheck.org/demos/factc...cate/hands.jpg

In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:
http://www.factcheck.org/demos/factc...ntclose-up.jpg

Just asking where the proof is otherwise...

there is no such thing as proof when there is conspiracy afoot!

Tom_PM 08-31-2010 11:54 AM

They dont believe proof when it conflicts with talking points. get out of here with your facts!

Tax cuts for the top 2%, which includes a whopping 3% of ALL small businesses, and that solves everything. Dont test me on this.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YUfouW5n1M...+McConnell.jpg

ManufacturingMan 08-31-2010 11:59 AM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ra8SJBEzhxc

NaughtyVisions 08-31-2010 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManufacturingMan (Post 17455655)

Seriously? I show you documents from an independent fact check organization, who physically inspected and touched the actual birth certificate, and you attempt to nullify that with a YouTube video from some douche who spells controversy "contraversy"? I rest on your face--er, I mean, I rest my case.

Tom_PM 08-31-2010 01:17 PM

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Dont worry. Everything will be fine.

Tom_PM 08-31-2010 01:34 PM

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/u...ner_orange.jpg

I think the GOP wishes it could change. One of them probably suggested it but were drowned out in a chorus of "NO"'s.

cambaby 08-31-2010 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17455968)
I think the GOP wishes it could change. One of them probably suggested it but were drowned out in a chorus of "NO"'s.

Dude you are stuck in the year 2000 no one cares about the GOP, its all about the Tea Party now, sheesh get with it.

Tom_PM 08-31-2010 01:42 PM

Haha, oh yeah. The republican tea party, not the grand old party.

We better save our change for the republican tea parties plan for Social Security.
http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/...y-reform-3.jpg

PornMD 08-31-2010 01:44 PM

I'm not a fan of Barry either but ffs if you're going to bash him, think of something original. The Change = coins bit has been done about a billion times.

marketsmart 08-31-2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 17455991)
I'm not a fan of Barry either but ffs if you're going to bash him, think of something original. The Change = coins bit has been done about a billion times.

no no.. you misunderstood the OP... he was merely showing how much money he got back when he closed his bank account today...

you see, some people like to blame others for their own failures.... :2 cents:

if he would get on board with team obama, those pockets would be filled with gold.... :thumbsup




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ManufacturingMan 08-31-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions (Post 17455838)
Seriously? I show you documents from an independent fact check organization, who physically inspected and touched the actual birth certificate, and you attempt to nullify that with a YouTube video from some douche who spells controversy "contraversy"? I rest on your face--er, I mean, I rest my case.

If they are a "legit" fact check organization, who funds them exactly? How do they make their money? Pay rent? I doubt they are anything "legit", because if it was this easy to rest this case, why hasn't he shown the real birth certificate? His mother was living abroad during the supposed time she gave birth... How does that work exactly? Either way, Him and Geitner's first jobs out of college (who was paid for by Rockefeller foundation money) came from none other than Henry Kissinger, a Rockefeller lackey/lap dog. Read David Rockefeller's memoirs and you can see their "grand plan" taking shape quite nicely. This cut and dry, black and white world you live in only exists in the minds of the willfully ignorant. :2 cents:

Tom_PM 08-31-2010 01:58 PM

You may only present facts that are funded by the republican tea party. Thank you for your cooperation, prisoner.

Tom_PM 08-31-2010 02:00 PM

And one last thing...

Obama/Biden.. Osama Bin Laden... coincidence??????

Over and out.

theking 08-31-2010 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManufacturingMan (Post 17455541)
His legal name is actually Barry Soetoro. How many how us get to have multiple names on official documents? What a fraud job, madison avenue created con man. :disgust

His legal name is not Barry Soetoro. His stepfather simply enrolled him in school in Indonesia as Barry Soetoro...for whatever his reason...which does not make it his legal name...end of story.

cambaby 08-31-2010 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17456049)
His legal name is not Barry Soetoro. His stepfather simply enrolled him in school in Indonesia as Barry Soetoro...for whatever his reason...which does not make it his legal name...end of story.

Yeah his father also listed himself as "African" on Barrys certification of live birth, not the most honest fellow. I guess the apple doesnt fall far from the tree. :thumbsup

onwebcam 08-31-2010 02:13 PM

The US as you know it has been operating in bankruptcy since 1933 with the New Deal. Obama is essentially doing a new "new deal" and/or bankruptcy reorganization. Neither new deals are/were good for the American people. Only good for the men behind the curtain. Either accept you are a slave to the debt or break free from the shackles and fight it.

NaughtyVisions 08-31-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ManufacturingMan (Post 17456008)
If they are a "legit" fact check organization, who funds them exactly? How do they make their money? Pay rent?

http://www.factcheck.org/about/

Our Mission

We are a nonpartisan, nonprofit "consumer advocate" for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics. We monitor the factual accuracy of what is said by major U.S. political players in the form of TV ads, debates, speeches, interviews and news releases. Our goal is to apply the best practices of both journalism and scholarship, and to increase public knowledge and understanding.

FactCheck.org is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania. The APPC was established by publisher and philanthropist Walter Annenberg to create a community of scholars within the University of Pennsylvania that would address public policy issues at the local, state and federal levels.



Our Funding


Prior to fiscal 2010, we were supported entirely by three sources: funds from the APPC?s own resources (specifically an endowment created in 1993 by the Annenberg Foundation at the direction of the late Walter Annenberg, and a 1995 grant by the Annenberg Foundation to fund APPC?s Washington, D.C., base); additional funds from the Annenberg Foundation; and grants from the Flora Family Foundation. We do not seek and have never accepted, directly or indirectly, any funds from corporations, unions, partisan organizations or advocacy groups.

In 2010 we began accepting donations from individual members of the public for the first time, responding to many unsolicited offers of support from our subscribers. We launched our first public appeal for donations in April 2010.

At that time we also decided to disclose our finances in greater detail, so that our readers may judge for themselves whether or not any of those individual donations could influence us. Our first such disclosure was posted July 2, 2010:



Financial Disclosure: Fiscal Year 2010
(12 months ending June 30, 2010)

Annenberg Foundation: $806,542

Flora Family Foundation: $99,093

Individual donors: $11,498


Note: During this period we received a total of 281 gifts from individual donors, the largest of which was $500. The average individual donation was $40.92.

In the future, we will make similar disclosure after each quarter and each fiscal year. Should we receive $1,000 or more from any single individual during a single fiscal year, we will identify the name and location of the giver.

-Brooks Jackson, Director



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Originally Posted by ManufacturingMan (Post 17456008)
I doubt they are anything "legit", because if it was this easy to rest this case, why hasn't he shown the real birth certificate?

Did you read my post? He did show the birth certificate. Would you prefer he go door-to-door and show every single person the birth certificate?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManufacturingMan (Post 17456008)
His mother was living abroad during the supposed time she gave birth... How does that work exactly?

Show me proof that she was living abroad during the time of his birth, and please, something better than a youtube video. :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManufacturingMan (Post 17456008)
Either way, Him and Geitner's first jobs out of college (who was paid for by Rockefeller foundation money) came from none other than Henry Kissinger, a Rockefeller lackey/lap dog. Read David Rockefeller's memoirs and you can see their "grand plan" taking shape quite nicely. This cut and dry, black and white world you live in only exists in the minds of the willfully ignorant. :2 cents:

I really don't even give a shit about what this part of your post says. I said before I wasn't getting into the political part of this. I was addressing your claims that Obama was born Barry Soertoro. I provide proof for my side, you have nothing, so you change the subject. Again, I'm not getting into the politics issue, merely the bullshit about his name. And as for why it's "not this easy to rest this case," it's because conspiracy theorists like you don't know when to shut the fuck up and admit you're wrong, and the case lives on. :2 cents:

cambaby 08-31-2010 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 17456071)
The US as you know it has been operating in bankruptcy since 1933 with the New Deal. Obama is essentially doing a new "new deal" and/or bankruptcy reorganization. Neither new deals are good for the American people. Only good for the men behind the curtain. Either accept you are a slave to the debt or break free from the shackles and fight it.

In a non-nut-job way I completely agree.

theking 08-31-2010 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17456058)
Yeah his father also listed himself as "African" on Barrys certification of live birth, not the most honest fellow. I guess the apple doesnt fall far from the tree. :thumbsup

Correct me if I am wrong...isn't Kenya in Africa?

NaughtyVisions 08-31-2010 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17456058)
Yeah his father also listed himself as "African" on Barrys certification of live birth, not the most honest fellow. I guess the apple doesnt fall far from the tree. :thumbsup

Again from http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.

When we asked about the security borders, which look different from some other examples of Hawaii certifications of live birth, Kurt said "The borders are generated each time a certified copy is printed. A citation located on the bottom left hand corner of the certificate indicates which date the form was revised." He also confirmed that the information in the short form birth certificate is sufficient to prove citizenship for "all reasonable purposes."


Hey look, the last paragraph also address the birth certificate borders that your youtube friend likes to think is hard evidence! Howsa bout that? :thumbsup

cambaby 08-31-2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17456106)
Correct me if I am wrong...isn't Kenya in Africa?

I believe the correct answer when asked what race would be "N IGGER"

African is not a race.

theking 08-31-2010 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17456110)
I believe the correct answer when asked what race would be "N IGGER"

African is not a race.

When I used the quote...this is what you posted...before you made the edit. Speaks volumns about you...now doesn't it. You are permanently dismissed.

Correction after your edit.

NaughtyVisions 08-31-2010 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17456110)
I believe the correct answer when asked what race would be "N IGGER"

African is not a race.

Neither is N-----. Way to throw what tiny bit of credibility you may have had out the window. :2 cents:

CyberHustler 08-31-2010 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17456117)
When I used the quote...this is what you posted...before you made the edit. Speaks volumns about you...now doesn't it. You are permanently dismissed.

Correction after your edit.

:2 cents: Stupid racist carcker ass honkeys!!!

cambaby 08-31-2010 02:39 PM

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