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Amputate Your Head 08-30-2010 04:54 PM
any Tony Robbins readers here?
 
I've been working on a couple of his books here for quite a while now.... (like over a year)... i can usually read through a technical manual 3 inches thick in one day. but this Robbins stuff.... takes some absorbing and consideration.... he's either a genius or a complete nut. (no, it hasn't taken me a year to read a book.... i forget about it, then keep going back for another little slice).

interesting note... one of the family here worked with him for a few years.... everywhere he went. has nothing but the best things to say about the guy.

Randy West 08-30-2010 04:57 PM
Tony Robbins is like the Bible. It doesn't anything horrible to say, and it's full of shit... but if you live your life by it, you will at least believe you are happy :2 cents:

Amputate Your Head 08-30-2010 05:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy West (Post 17453606)
Tony Robbins is like the Bible. It doesn't anything horrible to say, and it's full of shit... but if you live your life by it, you will at least believe you are happy :2 cents:
true.

i don't live my life by any one book. maybe a compilation of specific books.... but tony robbins and the bible aren't in that lineup. :winkwink:

The Porn Nerd 08-30-2010 05:12 PM
Tony is a personal friend of mine (believe it or not). Went to my 1st seminar of his - walking across fire - wayyyy back in '86. Worked for/with him for a couple years, at his seminars, even proof-read two of his books (Unlimited Power & Awaken The Giant Within).

Anything you wanna know, hit me up on ICQ.

The "key" to Tony - and any 'motivational speaker/Life Coach" - is to find what works FOR YOU and then run with it. Tony et al can throw 1001 things at you and ANY ONE can change/improve your life. Anyway, blah blah. Tony's great tho - and has sure gotten his shit together since when he first started out. :)

Amputate Your Head 08-30-2010 05:15 PM
tony's just the latest addition here, i try to read a pretty wide variety of books... with the exception of the pointless ones like Stephen King or Anne Rice or whatever.

just from what i can see from where I'm sitting, i've got several books on everything from....

Mozart
Audio Systems
Tao Te Ching
Art of War
Home Improvement 1-2-3
Harley Davidson
Koi Pond Chemistry
Camera manuals
Adobe manuals
OSX manuals
etc
Michio Kaku
LSD
Thesaurus
Hawaiian Language
Vietnam War
Brain Dissection
Anatomy
Food
Tattooing
Addiction
Martial arts
Weaponry
Quotable Quotes
Einstein
God
and of course, Tony Robbins.

there's more, but those topics/authors are within arm length.


oops, and Sewing too. ;-)

$tandaman 08-30-2010 05:16 PM
I love his stuff.

Have you seen his new program primetime? http://www.breakthroughinsider.com/
It's on hulu.

dyna mo 08-30-2010 05:18 PM
if you enjoyed "art of war", may i recommend carl von clausewitz' "theory of war"

i found it an even better read.

Amputate Your Head 08-30-2010 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 17453626)
Tony is a personal friend of mine (believe it or not). Went to my 1st seminar of his - walking across fire - wayyyy back in '86. Worked for/with him for a couple years, at his seminars, even proof-read two of his books (Unlimited Power & Awaken The Giant Within).

Anything you wanna know, hit me up on ICQ.

The "key" to Tony - and any 'motivational speaker/Life Coach" - is to find what works FOR YOU and then run with it. Tony et al can throw 1001 things at you and ANY ONE can change/improve your life. Anyway, blah blah. Tony's great tho - and has sure gotten his shit together since when he first started out. :)
yeah, that's kind of what I was meaning.... it really takes a while to give what he's saying some consideration and whether or not to find a way to apply it. not like absorbing a technical manual.... that's easy, it's just raw information.

dyna mo 08-30-2010 05:20 PM
on topic, i read robbins' original book and liked it, i couldn't/didn't apply the principles though. i find napolean hill's "think & grow rich" easier for me to embrace and run with the principles. now that robbins has written so many books, i wouldn't know where to start.

Amputate Your Head 08-30-2010 05:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17453634)
if you enjoyed "art of war", may i recommend carl von clausewitz' "theory of war"

i found it an even better read.
i'll check that out :thumbsup

have you read The Book of Five Rings?

react 08-30-2010 05:27 PM
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Amputate Your Head 08-30-2010 05:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by $tandaman (Post 17453631)
I love his stuff.

Have you seen his new program primetime? http://www.breakthroughinsider.com/
It's on hulu.
thanks for the link, checking it out :thumbsup

dyna mo 08-30-2010 05:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17453649)
i'll check that out :thumbsup

have you read The Book of Five Rings?
for some reason it rings a bell (yuk yuk) but i can't place it. i took several military history courses in college (that's how i ended up reading clausewitz) and it might of been required reading but i am not sure.

Amputate Your Head 08-30-2010 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17453658)
for some reason it rings a bell (yuk yuk) but i can't place it. i took several military history courses in college (that's how i ended up reading clausewitz) and it might of been required reading but i am not sure.
it's right up there with sun tzu's... good stuff
i've lost my copy and it's been probably 15 years since i last read it

The Porn Nerd 08-30-2010 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17453639)
yeah, that's kind of what I was meaning.... it really takes a while to give what he's saying some consideration and whether or not to find a way to apply it. not like absorbing a technical manual.... that's easy, it's just raw information.
Basically, what Tony does is 'dumb down' Heuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) for the masses. So sometimes it's better to read the actual source material, or the guys who taught Tony as it were. Richard Bandler and John Grinder are the founders of NLP, and I've been to both of their seminars. VERY technical stuff, more geared towards clinicians and therapists than avaerage people. But if you do better with tech stuff then read Bandler & Grinder.

Tony, to me nowadays, is better as a once a year-type kick-in-the-ass motivater than any practical 'techniques' he may teach. Because I believe, now, that putting yourself in the right 'state' (of mind) and perhaps physically putting yourself in motion is all one truly needs - unless that person is lacking actual skills/techniques. But once you learn & absorb the differant techiques Tony teaches it's just putting yourself in the right mental 'state' that can allow your brain, your unconscious mind, to 'choose' the best course of action for you. Make sense? God, now I sound like Tony...

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17453642)
on topic, i read robbins' original book and liked it, i couldn't/didn't apply the principles though. i find napolean hill's "think & grow rich" easier for me to embrace and run with the principles. now that robbins has written so many books, i wouldn't know where to start.
Still his best and easiest to absorb/apply is 'Unlimited Power'. His other books are more technique-heavy, or workbook-centric (lots of exercises). Besides, 'Unlimited Power' is just the Reader's Digest version of NLP anyway (see above). :)

CaptainHowdy 08-30-2010 05:39 PM
Quote:
For changes to be of any true value, they've got to be lasting and consistent.
Tony Robbins
Sounds like another "master of the obvious", I'd avoid it like the plague...

Mock NyaMout 08-30-2010 05:45 PM
He has a great back story.

Amputate Your Head 08-30-2010 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 17453673)
Sounds like another "master of the obvious", I'd avoid it like the plague...
that was my initial assessment too.... but then it occurred to me, sometimes we need someone to point out the obvious.

no finer example than when someone freaks out because they can't find their sunglasses, and someone points out that they are on top of your head.

DateDoc 08-30-2010 05:49 PM
Master of the obvious may be true but you have to realize everyone can lose his/her way in life and something as simple as listening to a tape or reading a book can help get you back on track.

quiet 08-30-2010 05:58 PM
the guy used to make me laugh with his infomercials, while i was slaving away at a computer 18 hours a day. i no longer slave away, and i no longer watch his infomercials (though i'm not sure if they even exist anymore). thanks tony!!

dyna mo 08-30-2010 06:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17453685)
that was my initial assessment too.... but then it occurred to me, sometimes we need someone to point out the obvious.

no finer example than when someone freaks out because they can't find their sunglasses, and someone points out that they are on top of your head.
speaking of, i can't find the fucking remote! any ideas?

The Porn Nerd 08-30-2010 06:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17453728)
speaking of, i can't find the fucking remote! any ideas?

On the coffee table, underneath the mags.

Amputate Your Head 08-30-2010 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 17453757)
On the coffee table, underneath the mags.
and piles of *ahem* "soiled" kleenix

dyna mo 08-30-2010 06:37 PM
actually, that's not far off from where it was, under the ottoman.

anyhoo, i have a theory on these self-help books. the fact is, they do tend to work if you do the exercises, etc. that said, the exercises, if done correctly, are hard work. so really what you (we) learn is that hard work pays off, not the *principle* learned from the exercise.

Blackamooka 08-30-2010 08:43 PM
Milton Erickson is the guy that inspired all of those guys. Bandler, Grinder, Robbins and many many others. "My Voice Will Go With You" is an interesting read on Erickson.

Some other books you might like, based on your reading list:

"The Cosmic Serpent: DNA and the Origins of Knowledge"
"A Brief History of Time"
"Ethics" by Baruch Spinoza

If you really want to get into some dense reading material, pick up anything by Carl Jung.

seer 08-31-2010 12:12 AM
he is a good guy,just has the stigma of the infomercials of the 80's :)

SleazyDream 08-31-2010 01:25 AM
i love tony

bbobby86 08-31-2010 02:17 AM
i love him too... but so little time...

DamianJ 08-31-2010 03:36 AM
Snake Oil seller verging on a cult leader.

A friend of mine went to lots of his retreats and seminars etc. Spent tens of thousands of dollars.

Crock of shit.

IMHO.

Grapesoda 08-31-2010 06:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17453642)
on topic, i read robbins' original book and liked it, i couldn't/didn't apply the principles though. i find napolean hill's "think & grow rich" easier for me to embrace and run with the principles. now that robbins has written so many books, i wouldn't know where to start.
think and grow rich is my least fav Napoleon Hill release. I have 'your right to be rich' which is a series of lectures recorded in the 50's that pretty much rocks.

Grapesoda 08-31-2010 06:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 17453667)
Basically, what Tony does is 'dumb down' Heuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) for the masses. So sometimes it's better to read the actual source material, or the guys who taught Tony as it were. Richard Bandler and John Grinder are the founders of NLP, and I've been to both of their seminars. VERY technical stuff, more geared towards clinicians and therapists than avaerage people. But if you do better with tech stuff then read Bandler & Grinder.

Tony, to me nowadays, is better as a once a year-type kick-in-the-ass motivater than any practical 'techniques' he may teach. Because I believe, now, that putting yourself in the right 'state' (of mind) and perhaps physically putting yourself in motion is all one truly needs - unless that person is lacking actual skills/techniques. But once you learn & absorb the differant techiques Tony teaches it's just putting yourself in the right mental 'state' that can allow your brain, your unconscious mind, to 'choose' the best course of action for you. Make sense? God, now I sound like Tony...



Still his best and easiest to absorb/apply is 'Unlimited Power'. His other books are more technique-heavy, or workbook-centric (lots of exercises). Besides, 'Unlimited Power' is just the Reader's Digest version of NLP anyway (see above). :)
Joel Osteen rocks as well

gmr324 08-31-2010 06:39 AM
I thought he had a recent show on TV helping out a couple where the husband got paralyzed during their honeymoon. Not sure if they cancelled the show or if it was just a pilot show.

Scotty Mac 08-31-2010 09:03 AM
reading hurts.

Agent 488 08-31-2010 09:18 AM
he's corny and self-help cult leader.

cut out the middleman and read Richard Bandler and robert anton wilson and do the exercises while on shrooms.

dyna mo 08-31-2010 09:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 17454759)
think and grow rich is my least fav Napoleon Hill release. I have 'your right to be rich' which is a series of lectures recorded in the 50's that pretty much rocks.
i'm sure those lectures are good. i find the original book provides me all the info i need to get busy, otherwise i find i get bogged down with the "how to" and neglect the actual "to do".

DWB 08-31-2010 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17453685)
but then it occurred to me, sometimes we need someone to point out the obvious.
Sometimes you need someone else, who is good at saying it, to say the stuff you already know.

Funny how that works.

dicksman42 08-31-2010 11:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17455495)
Sometimes you need someone else, who is good at saying it, to say the stuff you already know.

Funny how that works.
Exactly
Tony is the man! He is the reincarnate of Napolean Hill.


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