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Martin 08-15-2010 06:00 PM

Truth about water fluoridation on mainstream Aussie media.
 

dyna mo 08-15-2010 06:06 PM

Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?
On no account will a Commie ever drink water, and not without good reason.


I drink only distilled water, or rain water, and only pure-grain alcohol

Helix 08-15-2010 06:35 PM

That's the way your hard-core Commie works

BlackCrayon 08-16-2010 04:39 AM

its about time this issue gets some mainstream attention. I wonder if bottled water is floridated?

Martin 08-16-2010 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17418255)
its about time this issue gets some mainstream attention. I wonder if bottled water is floridated?

Most of it is, but some smart companies are jumping on the non fluoridated water wagon. There is even non fluoridated toothpaste hitting the shelves.

BlackCrayon 08-16-2010 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 17418319)
Most of it is, but some smart companies are jumping on the non fluoridated water wagon. There is even non fluoridated toothpaste hitting the shelves.

damn, i thought i was ahead of the game drinking bottled water instead of the city's tap water. i've never really drank tap water..drank well water when living with my parents, then bottled since i've moved out. guess i will have to try and find these smart companies.

alias 08-16-2010 06:04 AM

Pimping some well water here, fluoride is one of the best scams ever.

ottopottomouse 08-16-2010 06:25 AM

The tap water here varies between tasting like it came out of a fish pond and stinking of chlorine. Bottled water for me.

BlackCrayon 08-16-2010 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17418379)
damn, i thought i was ahead of the game drinking bottled water instead of the city's tap water. i've never really drank tap water..drank well water when living with my parents, then bottled since i've moved out. guess i will have to try and find these smart companies.

i was checking out a few of the bottled waters i have been drinking. one lists .02 ppm, another .07 ppm. it seems there are a number that are floride free but no idea if they sell in canada or not and they probably aren't cheap.

dyna mo 08-16-2010 07:56 AM

i guess no one got my dr strangelove reference, too bad. great scene in the movie.

either way, it's weird how bad flouride is for us yet we are living longer than ever before.

but good to see y'all polluting the earth with water bottles instead of falling for this heinous conspiracy, good on ya!

Jaeger 08-16-2010 08:04 AM

fuck commies...

Amputate Your Head 08-16-2010 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 17418399)
Pimping some well water here, fluoride is one of the best scams ever.

The English think so too.

dyna mo 08-16-2010 08:08 AM

from a movie made over 45 years ago-


dyna mo 08-16-2010 08:17 AM

while it's clear the flouride conspiracy is not grounded in any facts, the pollution and waste and danger from plastic water bottles is clear & profound-

-millions of barrels of oil are used in making plastic water bottles
-50 billion plastic water bottles are thrown away each year, the don't biodegrade.
-billions of plastic water bottles are shipped globally adding to the air pollution problem

-Studies have shown that chemicals called phthalates, which are known to disrupt testosterone and other hormones, can leach into bottled water over time. One study found that water that had been stored for 10 weeks in plastic bottles contained phthalates, suggesting that the chemicals could be coming from the plastic cap or liner. Although there are regulatory standards limiting phthalates in tap water, there are no legal limits for phthalates in bottled water -- the bottled water industry waged a successful campaign opposing the FDA proposal to set a legal limit for these chemicals!

Martin 08-16-2010 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17418612)
i guess no one got my dr strangelove reference, too bad. great scene in the movie.

either way, it's weird how bad flouride is for us yet we are living longer than ever before.

but good to see y'all polluting the earth with water bottles instead of falling for this heinous conspiracy, good on ya!

Dude it's one of my favorite movies ya dingle berry. Every time the subject of water fluoridation gets talked about that scene comes up.

dyna mo 08-16-2010 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 17418794)
Dude it's one of my favorite movies ya dingle berry. Every time the subject of water fluoridation gets talked about that scene comes up.

who you calling dingle berry, you lint licker.

:1orglaugh

sperbonzo 08-16-2010 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17418870)
who you calling dingle berry, you lint licker.

:1orglaugh

You are both obviously dingle-licking lint berries......




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_Richard_ 08-16-2010 10:09 AM

i can't trust a people that don't practice Halloween or stock frozen juices

dyna mo 08-16-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17418880)
you are both obviously dingle-licking lint berries......




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shut the front door, cootie queen!

Coup 08-16-2010 10:24 AM

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/c...s/fluoride.jpg

sperbonzo 08-16-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17418893)
shut the front door, cootie queen!

How DARE you!!! I'm the KING of cooties, and I'll thank you to remember that....






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scarlettcontent 08-16-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17418255)
its about time this issue gets some mainstream attention. I wonder if bottled water is floridated?

yes a lot of bottled water has fluoride too :mad:

http://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/fact...tled_water.htm

Martin 08-16-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17418870)
who you calling dingle berry, you lint licker.

:1orglaugh

lol never heard that one..

dyna mo 08-16-2010 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17419008)
How DARE you!!! I'm the KING of cooties, and I'll thank you to remember that....






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my bad. i thought you went the other way, based on your posts!

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 17419079)
lol never heard that one..

in all seriousness though, fluoridation has been going on for decades, wouldn't there be some sort of causal connection made by now? cancer, heart attacks, gum disease, homosexuality, something? billions of people over 50 years- no connections. leads me to believe it's a non-issue.

Martin 08-16-2010 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17419181)
my bad. i thought you went the other way, based on your posts!



in all seriousness though, fluoridation has been going on for decades, wouldn't there be some sort of causal connection made by now? cancer, heart attacks, gum disease, homosexuality, something? billions of people over 50 years- no connections. leads me to believe it's a non-issue.

There is scientist out there that are saying that there is connection to increased bone cancer, arthritis, Alzheimer.

http://www.wholywater.com/fluoride.html

Let me ask you this, if I handed you a tall drink of cold water and told you that there was 0.7 ppm shit particles in it would you drink it?

dyna mo 08-16-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 17419250)
There is scientist out there that are saying that there is connection to increased bone cancer, arthritis, Alzheimer.

http://www.wholywater.com/fluoride.html

Let me ask you this, if I handed you a tall drink of cold water and told you that there was 0.7 ppm shit particles in it would you drink it?

thx for the link. fact is though, i can provide links to research stating the opposite, backed with #s/facts.

no, i would not drink that water if offered to me that way. i also would not eat at restaurants if i saw the kitchen. or eat cajun food if i knew the ingredients or.......

etc.

i'm not a fluoridation junky, even though it's been named 1 of the most medically significant achievements of the 20th century.

WarChild 08-16-2010 11:49 AM

Yes between fluoride and vaccines it's a wonder that our life span is increasing all the time. I mean with medical science working hand in hand with the goverment to hide their mass poison campaigns, we really should be living much shorter lives than 50 years ago. You fucking morons.

Martin 08-16-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17419373)
Yes between fluoride and vaccines it's a wonder that our life span is increasing all the time. I mean with medical science working hand in hand with the goverment to hide their mass poison campaigns, we really should be living much shorter lives than 50 years ago. You fucking morons.

It's not meant to kill us. It's meant to keep the population dumbed down, docile, brain dead sheep. To keep people thinking that toxic waste is some how good for them.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 08-16-2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17418379)
damn, i thought i was ahead of the game drinking bottled water instead of the city's tap water. i've never really drank tap water..drank well water when living with my parents, then bottled since i've moved out. guess i will have to try and find these smart companies.

most bottled water comes from municipal water supplies in the first place.

Amputate Your Head 08-16-2010 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 17419755)
It's not meant to kill us. It's meant to keep the population dumbed down, docile, brain dead sheep. To keep people thinking that toxic waste is some how good for them.

My dentist always told me fluoride keeps your teeth from rotting out of your skull. Guess she was a commie propaganda spreader too. :disgust

dyna mo 08-16-2010 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17419760)
most bottled water comes from municipal water supplies in the first place.

now the angry jew cat is out of the bag!

Martin 08-16-2010 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17419812)
My dentist always told me fluoride keeps your teeth from rotting out of your skull. Guess she was a commie propaganda spreader too. :disgust

She's making money selling fluoride. Any chance of that?

Amputate Your Head 08-16-2010 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 17419846)
She's making money selling fluoride. Any chance of that?

That's true. She's pimpin' large makin' fat bank selling those $3 dollar bottles of fluoride. How did I not see that before?

Martin 08-16-2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17419849)
That's true. She's pimpin' large makin' fat bank selling those $3 dollar bottles of fluoride. How did I not see that before?

Dentist make a lot of money with it. They wouldn't offer it to you if they didn't. The dental industry is big business.

Amputate Your Head 08-16-2010 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 17419890)
Dentist make a lot of money with it. They wouldn't offer it to you if they didn't. The dental industry is big business.

$3 dollar bottle of fluoride, let's even say 2 bottles per customer. Every one of them. How many customers do you suppose they can see in a day? 6? 10?

versus one crown + root canal = $3500

She also sells mouthwash and toothbrushes, but I doubt that's her cash cow either.

Martin 08-16-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17419896)
$3 dollar bottle of fluoride, let's even say 2 bottles per customer. Every one of them. How many customers do you suppose they can see in a day? 6? 10?

versus one crown + root canal = $3500

She also sells mouthwash and toothbrushes, but I doubt that's her cash cow either.

This is all besides the point. I'm not talking about how much fluoride a single dentist office can sell by it's self. Think of the bigger picture. Doesn't matter, the fact is fluoride is not meant to be ingested. It's one of the most toxic ionic molecules there is. Read up on this stuff. NOT GOOD FOR YOU!
http://www.naturalnews.com/cartoons/...r_Main_600.jpg

Amputate Your Head 08-16-2010 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 17419928)
This is all besides the point. I'm not talking about how much fluoride a single dentist office can sell by it's self. Think of the bigger picture. Doesn't matter, the fact is fluoride is not meant to be ingested. It's one of the most toxic ionic molecules there is. Read up on this stuff. NOT GOOD FOR YOU!

All things in moderation. Did you know you can die from drinking too much water? Also milk. Also Drano. Fluoride is way down at the very bottom of my list of shit to be worried about killing me. I polluted my lungs for 27 years with cigarettes. I drown my liver for 26 years in a nice Tequila bath. I've been stabbed, beaten, held at gunpoint, and survived combat. I've been injected with the military's finest unknown chemicals. There's an accident waiting right out on the street in front of my house. Mr. Heart Attack and Mrs. Stroke are waiting just around the corner for everyone.

If fluoride is what's keeping you up at night and driving you to take action & protest something, you've clearly got one glorious worry-free life. I envy you.

dyna mo 08-16-2010 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 17419755)
It's not meant to kill us. It's meant to keep the population dumbed down, docile, brain dead sheep. To keep people thinking that toxic waste is some how good for them.

i applaud critical thinking, i do. i think more people need to do it more often. but there comes a time when the critical thought process needs to be applied to one's self so as to choose your battles carefully.

fact is, a fluoridation conspiracy is one of those times. because-

1. fluoridation of publci drinking water will continue for a long time
2. there is zero proof that it's a public health concern, let alone a plot to dumb down the masses and have them (us) think toxic waste is good for us, mmmmmmmm.
3. by advocating consuming bottled water instead you are replacing an action with a much much worse one.

Martin 08-16-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17420007)
3. by advocating consuming bottled water instead you are replacing an action with a much much worse one.

I never said anything about bottle water.

dyna mo 08-16-2010 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 17420015)
I never said anything about bottle water.

2 outta 3 ain't bad! :1orglaugh

Martin 08-16-2010 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17420019)
2 outta 3 ain't bad! :1orglaugh

Just check into who was the first Government to use fluoride in the drinking water. Also, if enough people demand that it be removed it will be. So 0/3.:thumbsup

dyna mo 08-16-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin (Post 17420032)
Just check into who was the first Government to use fluoride in the drinking water. Also, if enough people demand that it be removed it will be. So 0/3.:thumbsup

not really. again critical thinking leads me to KNOW there will never by an uprising of the people to stop fluoridation.

never.

i am well aware fluoridation started in the u.s. around the turn of the century, that does not discount the fact that you think it's an attempt to dumb down the masses and that your country is in on the conspiracy.

Ethersync 08-16-2010 04:44 PM

You guys can argue back and forth about this all you want, but the US government says that people are getting too much fluoride. There is a Congressional Research Service report on the subject. It basically says there is not too much in any one source, but when you add them all together people get too much.

TheDoc 08-16-2010 04:51 PM

Fluoride is found in most water sources naturally, for sure those coming off mountains and in under ground rivers/lakes, ie: most drinking water. You could drink water from a stream that has higher fluoride in it that water from the tap. Most people with soft water from wells have higher counts of fluoride than those with city tap water.

Water treatment plants often remove fluoride... they regulate it, they don't have to add it in unless they have to take something else out first, which is rather common - however they put back less fluoride than what was taken out.

dyna mo 08-16-2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17420201)
You guys can argue back and forth about this all you want, but the US government says that people are getting too much fluoride. There is a Congressional Research Service report on the subject. It basically says there is not too much in any one source, but when you add them all together people get too much.

wait, i thought it was a well-planned out conspiracy orchestrated by the u.s. government over 100 years ago to keep us all dumbed down and on the government fluoride cheese.

why would they release such a report in light of the conspiracy.

Ethersync 08-16-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17420225)
wait, i thought it was a well-planned out conspiracy orchestrated by the u.s. government over 100 years ago to keep us all dumbed down and on the government fluoride cheese.

why would they release such a report in light of the conspiracy.

Alex Jones might say it's because it's an internal congressional report that was not public until Wikileaks got a'hold of it :upsidedow

Quotes from the report:

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Because the use of fluoridated dental products and the consumption of food and beverages made with fluoridated water have increased since the PHS recommended optimal levels for fluoridation, many people now may be exposed to more fluoride than had been anticipated. Consequently, questions have emerged as to whether current water fluoridation practices and levels offer the most appropriate ways to provide the expected beneficial effects of fluoride while avoiding adverse effects (most commonly, tooth mottling or pitting — dental fluorosis) that may result from ingestion of too much fluoride when teeth are developing. Also, scientific uncertainty regarding the health effects of exposure to higher levels of fluoride add controversy to decisions regarding water fluoridation.
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As noted by the National Research Council (NRC) of the National Academy of Sciences in 1997,

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In addition to fluoride in drinking water, people also can ingest fluoride in toothpaste, mouth rinse, and dietary fluoride supplements or in beverages and foods prepared with fluoridated water. As a result, many Americans might ingest more “incidental” fluoride than was anticipated by the PHS [Public Health Service] and by EPA in recommending standards for drinking water. 16 18

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According to a 2002 study, fluorosis prevalence among schoolchildren in the 1980s ranged from 18% to 26%, depending on the analytical index used.
Nothing in the report about it dumbing us down, but it does talk about how it can fuck up our teeth and bones and that most in the medical community do not think there is a link to cancer, but more studies need to be done.

Martin 08-16-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17420217)
Fluoride is found in most water sources naturally, for sure those coming off mountains and in under ground rivers/lakes, ie: most drinking water. You could drink water from a stream that has higher fluoride in it that water from the tap. Most people with soft water from wells have higher counts of fluoride than those with city tap water.

Water treatment plants often remove fluoride... they regulate it, they don't have to add it in unless they have to take something else out first, which is rather common - however they put back less fluoride than what was taken out.

This is what I found in regards to natural fluoride.

Fluoride, as such, is never added to the water. Only silicofluorides (a hazardous waste containing many toxic pollutants) are used to artificially fluoridate water, and studies have proven that they do not effectively prevent tooth decay, they only delay it. (See opposition's response to Question 4). Silicofluorides never occur naturally in nature, and they are 85 times more toxic than natural occurring calcium fluoride. Therefore, the effect on the entire body will be different.

This was proven in a study called, "Comparative Toxicity of Fluorine Compounds." After this study was completed, this statement was made: " ... this meant a daily intake of approximately 40 mg/kg of fluorine from sodium fluoride as compared with 3400 mg/kg from calcium fluoride. Therefore, from the standpoint of lethal concentrations and amount of fluorine necessary to cause growth inhibition, wide differences in toxicity of some of the compounds of fluoride were noted." (See 3-1: Industrial and Engineering Chemistry. July 1934, page 797). In other words, industrial waste (sodium fluoride) is 85 times more toxic than natural calcium fluoride. Both of them contain fluoride, but they are totally different compounds. (Also see 3-2).

Calcium is a well-known antidote for fluoride poisoning. When an antidote accompanies a poison, it makes the poison far less toxic to the body. Soft waters to which fluoride is artificially added lack this calcium which is present in most waters that contain natural fluoride.

Barry-xlovecam 08-16-2010 05:21 PM

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God willing, we will prevail in peace and freedom from fear and in true health through the purity and essence of our natural fluids. God bless you all ...

Ripper, Dr. Strangelove

DBS.US 08-16-2010 05:36 PM

Check out Sodium lauryl sulfate Bad stuff and it is in most all toothpaste and many hair shampoos.

Change your toothpaste and never get a sore throat again. :2 cents:


http://www.tomsofmaine.com/products/...ree-toothpaste :thumbsup

Amputate Your Head 08-16-2010 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17420225)
wait, i thought it was a well-planned out conspiracy orchestrated by the u.s. government over 100 years ago to keep us all dumbed down and on the government fluoride cheese.

why would they release such a report in light of the conspiracy.

mmmmm.... government fluoride cheese.......


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