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  • NETbilling
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    • Jan 2002
    • 8598
    #1

    AVN Show Opinions

    Hi All,

    It was great seeing and spending time with so many of you.

    For those who attended, what did you think of the show?

    Thanks, Mitch


    Mitch Farber
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    • notime
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2003
      • 8027
      #2
      I have never been to the Miami show. I just called Jan from ero-advertising.com and asked him since it's his first time there also.

      He and Judy say it's a good show for them and he made some good deals. People tell him less people visited this show this year, but again, he has nothing to compare it to as it's his first time.

      So for them it's a good half full glass...not a half empty glass.

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        • baddog
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 107089
          #3
          You would probably get more replies if you let people that never attend any shows weigh in.

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            • LAJ
              Gingerific
              • Jun 2001
              • 5567
              #4
              The show was great for me all around.
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                • Evil Chris
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                  • Dec 2001
                  • 13247
                  #5
                  Didn't make it this time, but am looking forward to the pics and feedback.


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                    • Redrob
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 4791
                      #6
                      I had a good show.

                      I made some new business contacts, visited old friends, went out for great meals and partied until time to crash.

                      Business as usual.

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                        • NETbilling
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                          • Jan 2002
                          • 8598
                          #7
                          Any More?


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                            • Wizzo
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                              • Nov 2000
                              • 15224
                              #8
                              Great for business, bad for parties...

                              Also, because many of us are very familiar with that hotel I think a lot of people that attended didn't have to come hang out in the lobby or whatever but instead could meet with who they wanted to meet with or knew where to eat, etc and not be out in the public areas much.
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                                • Sharky
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                                  • Mar 2002
                                  • 4938
                                  #9
                                  The show is dying. The new format including the retail side of the biz didn't affect things as I thought it would. I didn't see consumers that I know of. I think, to survive, the show needs to be at a much smaller venue in the future. The days of big spenders on shows are gone. I don't see how AVN made money on this one.
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                                    • mikem123
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                                      • Dec 2009
                                      • 310
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Wizzo
                                      Great for business, bad for parties...

                                      Also, because many of us are very familiar with that hotel I think a lot of people that attended didn't have to come hang out in the lobby or whatever but instead could meet with who they wanted to meet with or knew where to eat, etc and not be out in the public areas much.

                                      Good for Drinking tho right Wizzo. However i do agree i think if it was somewhere unfamiliar people would resort to the Lobby Bar to Network instead of outsourcing.
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                                        • pornstar2fag
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Jan 2005
                                          • 544
                                          #11
                                          anyone who went would need to justify their trip to their bosses to keep getting free vacations every three months so i would assume you will not get the truth from anyone who isn't an owner, and any owner, sole proprietor will probably lie to keep looking like a bro and not look like they made a bad decision to attend.


                                          "best show ever"
                                          "i did so much business"


                                          blah blah.

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                                            • DatingGold
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                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 13185
                                              #12
                                              I thought the show was pretty good. There were alot of heavy hitters there even if they were hiding.

                                              I don't think AVN show is dying, I think its just a sign of the adult industry as a whole.
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                                                • Vanilla DeVille
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                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                  • 8097
                                                  #13
                                                  I agree with what most peeps said. The parties weren't really there, but biz was definitely getting done!
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                                                    • Mr. Cool Ice
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                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                      • 1289
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Sharky
                                                      The show is dying. The new format including the retail side of the biz didn't affect things as I thought it would. I didn't see consumers that I know of. I think, to survive, the show needs to be at a much smaller venue in the future. The days of big spenders on shows are gone. I don't see how AVN made money on this one.
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                                                        • C-Luv
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                                                          • May 2008
                                                          • 3025
                                                          #15
                                                          I said this a couple times in different threads.. I personally got business done. But the show did seem a little died less parties and less talent. Everyone was spread out around the hotel so it seemed like less people. But I really think there was a lot of people there.

                                                          I personally was really busy since I was in Florida for 4 days and didn't have time for the pool or beach.

                                                          At the end of the day we have to remember we are there for business and not the parties. Personally that is what was missing and the silver cash bikini contest. It seemed empty because there was less talent running around.
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                                                            • Holly Lez!
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                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                              • 3480
                                                              #16
                                                              We were the only party! but I did good biz and enjoyed it
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                                                                • notime
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                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                  • 8027
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Sharky
                                                                  The show is dying. The new format including the retail side of the biz didn't affect things as I thought it would. I didn't see consumers that I know of. I think, to survive, the show needs to be at a much smaller venue in the future. The days of big spenders on shows are gone. I don't see how AVN made money on this one.
                                                                  Shows won't die. But I would like to see a separation between consumer, online and offline.
                                                                  I agree big spending worked in the past but now just may work the opposite way, when modest affiliates who are able to bring serious business are scared off maybe with these big costly parties, that make them feel insignificant and small instead of important?

                                                                  Could it be time to invite loyal or potential affiliates (or any other form of business like suppliers, producers, staff, clients, etc.) for a private dinner, drink, meeting or gathering during a show and get to know them better personally and see how you can get a better relationship and earn/share/grow/discuss more together?

                                                                  I don't think people travel to a show from around the globe to get a few free beers they can effort themselves and to see titties, they see on their screen anyway 24/7 any day of the week during work.

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                                                                    • Redrob
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                                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                                      • 4791
                                                                      #18
                                                                      I did miss the chartered cruise ship with the strippers, bondage show and casino....

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                                                                        • davecummings
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                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                          • 2922
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Redrob
                                                                          I did miss the chartered cruise ship with the strippers, bondage show and casino....
                                                                          Did you see stuart lawley there, or know anyone who saw him there?

                                                                          Who was that attorney in the .xxx seminar audience that I understand disagreed with some things the panel opined?
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                                                                            • TwinCities
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                              • 492
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I personally thought the show was fucking fantastic too. I did SO MUCH business there. I had 15 companies and heavy hitters tell me YES at the show. As we all know, "YES" = TONS of business! How many YESES did you get? Those YESES are SO fucking valuable that I printed them out and paid off my house and car with them this weekend.

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                                                                                • Redrob
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                                                  • 4791
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Nope, did not see Stuart. I believe the attorney questioning the .xxx panel was Al Gelbard.

                                                                                  I could be wrong.

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                                                                                    • pornstar2fag
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Jan 2005
                                                                                      • 544
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by C-Luv
                                                                                      I said this a couple times in different threads.. I personally got business done. But the show did seem a little died less parties and less talent. Everyone was spread out around the hotel so it seemed like less people. But I really think there was a lot of people there.

                                                                                      I personally was really busy since I was in Florida for 4 days and didn't have time for the pool or beach.

                                                                                      At the end of the day we have to remember we are there for business and not the parties. Personally that is what was missing and the silver cash bikini contest. It seemed empty because there was less talent running around.
                                                                                      aren't you talent?

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                                                                                        • Yngwie
                                                                                          I am an Alien from space
                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                          • 11118
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          I think that the main problem with people saying that the "shows are dying" is all do to the lack of parties. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but shouldn't the main focus be on business? Parties can be made anywhere and getting so drunk that you can't even talk will not help, but for events like this I say it should mainly be about business. Creating new business and helping current business.
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                                                                                            • NETbilling
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                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                              • 8598
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              We did a good amount of business, had alot of meetings and had a great time in the Poker suite.


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                                                                                                • punkpred
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                                                                                                  • May 2007
                                                                                                  • 1434
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Sharky
                                                                                                  The show is dying. The new format including the retail side of the biz didn't affect things as I thought it would. I didn't see consumers that I know of. I think, to survive, the show needs to be at a much smaller venue in the future. The days of big spenders on shows are gone. I don't see how AVN made money on this one.
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                                                                                                    • GetSCORECash
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                                                                                                      • Mar 2008
                                                                                                      • 5527
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      The parties were in the suites. You still had naked chics and you still had plenty of free liquor. Looking back At those parties In suites they were more intimate.

                                                                                                      Smaller venue but keep the show in Miami.
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                                                                                                        • Chosen
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                                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                                          • 63151
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Haven't been there...

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                                                                                                            • james_clickmemedia
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                                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                                              • 2204
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              IMHO shows are only good for getting people all in the same location and setting up meetings with them ahead of time. I don't need parties, seminars, free bar etc.
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                                                                                                                • AK
                                                                                                                  MadZuma
                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                  • 6436
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Vanilla DeVille
                                                                                                                  I agree with what most peeps said. The parties weren't really there, but biz was definitely getting done!
                                                                                                                  The show was good because I got to see you often this show than any other shows... hahahah

                                                                                                                  on a more serious note
                                                                                                                  I thought the show was good for us. Very small compared to last year's and the year before.
                                                                                                                  But with potential deals that we got from the show, it should pay for itself.

                                                                                                                  The key is to set up meetings before hand. Less people, less party but more business minded people imho.

                                                                                                                  We will still sponsor/attend the show.
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                                                                                                                    • D Ghost
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                                                                                                                      • May 2006
                                                                                                                      • 9819
                                                                                                                      #30
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                                                                                                                        • JFK
                                                                                                                          FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                          • 67369
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by AK
                                                                                                                          The show was good because I got to see you often this show than any other shows... hahahah

                                                                                                                          on a more serious note
                                                                                                                          I thought the show was good for us. Very small compared to last year's and the year before.
                                                                                                                          But with potential deals that we got from the show, it should pay for itself.

                                                                                                                          The key is to set up meetings before hand. Less people, less party but more business minded people imho.

                                                                                                                          We will still sponsor/attend the show.
                                                                                                                          great seeing you AK

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                                                                                                                            • Elli
                                                                                                                              Reach for those stars!
                                                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                              • 17991
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Interesting posts in here. I didn't make it to Miami this year. I think this is the first year I've missed since 2003.

                                                                                                                              The best strategic spot used to be to sit in the lobby and eventually every single person would walk by and say hullo. Is that not the case anymore? Can you only meet people you already had on your agenda?
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                                                                                                                                • Nick-Mindgeek
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                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2007
                                                                                                                                  • 700
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  The show was pretty decent imo...


                                                                                                                                  Great to see familiar faces and very happy to have met some new ones.

                                                                                                                                  I can't understand why anyone would say a show is 'useless'.

                                                                                                                                  Set your goals. Meet people. Grow your business.

                                                                                                                                  Anyone who can't do that...should really reconsider his business plan.

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                                                                                                                                    • iheartbucks
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                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                      • 637
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      I thought the show was a lot more dead this year verses last year...a lot less going on overall, I still met some great contacts and saw old friends, but if I didn't live here and had to spend as much as this show costs, I don't think it would've really need worth it, I hope it changes/turns around somehow because I do like I show in Miami
                                                                                                                                      Last edited by iheartbucks; 08-10-2010, 08:08 PM.

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                                                                                                                                        • TheSenator
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 13330
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          What is an AVN?

                                                                                                                                          Anyway, I hear the biggest business being done, is done in New Jersey and its happen next week.

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                                                                                                                                            • GotGauge
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                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 3072
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Was there even a Bikini Contest?? HA


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                                                                                                                                                • KillerK
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                                                                                                                                                  • May 2008
                                                                                                                                                  • 3406
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                                                                                                                  Hi All,

                                                                                                                                                  It was great seeing and spending time with so many of you.

                                                                                                                                                  For those who attended, what did you think of the show?

                                                                                                                                                  Thanks, Mitch
                                                                                                                                                  You are a billing company, and everyone knows you suck AVn's cock.

                                                                                                                                                  The show is dying like paysites are to tube sites.

                                                                                                                                                  If someone wants content, billing or to trade traffic/crosssales, you can pick up some business i'm sure. But if a company wants affiliates they aren't attending anymore.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                      Too old to care
                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 52942
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      You will find out how good the show was in 2010 in 2011. The number who rebook will show how well they did last year.

                                                                                                                                                      As for all those who say they did great. You'll not be finding out how good you did for at least 3 months. A meeting and a YES is not money in the bank. If you paid off your house and car with a yes, let me know how. ;)



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                                                                                                                                                        • Black Ops
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                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2006
                                                                                                                                                          • 292
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Each year you can see the attendance and sponsors drop. That means the previous show was not as good as they said it was.

                                                                                                                                                          Top sponsors will always blow smoke up your bum to justify the money they spent to be part of it. NO ONE who is a show sponsor will tell you they lost money and will never return. Some continue for the tax write-offs. Some due it just to keep up the illusion that they are kicking ass.

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                                                                                                                                                            • GotGauge
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                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 3072
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                              You will find out how good the show was in 2010 in 2011. The number who rebook will show how well they did last year.

                                                                                                                                                              As for all those who say they did great. You'll not be finding out how good you did for at least 3 months. A meeting and a YES is not money in the bank. If you paid off your house and car with a yes, let me know how. ;)
                                                                                                                                                              Exactly!!!


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                                                                                                                                                                • Vanilla DeVille
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 8097
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by AK
                                                                                                                                                                  The show was good because I got to see you often this show than any other shows... hahahah
                                                                                                                                                                  Haha - That's true, we actually did see each other more than once this show! It was really great seeing you, AK!
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                                                                                                                                                                    • mpahlca
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                                      • 1821
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by neeko
                                                                                                                                                                      The show was pretty decent imo...
                                                                                                                                                                      Great to see familiar faces and very happy to have met some new ones.
                                                                                                                                                                      I can't understand why anyone would say a show is 'useless'.
                                                                                                                                                                      Set your goals. Meet people. Grow your business.
                                                                                                                                                                      Anyone who can't do that...should really reconsider his business plan.
                                                                                                                                                                      I heard you guys were half the show so of course you were busy had to watch those expense accounts ;)
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                                                                                                                                                                        • NETbilling
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 8598
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by KillerK
                                                                                                                                                                          You are a billing company, and everyone knows you suck AVn's cock.

                                                                                                                                                                          The show is dying like paysites are to tube sites.

                                                                                                                                                                          If someone wants content, billing or to trade traffic/crosssales, you can pick up some business i'm sure. But if a company wants affiliates they aren't attending anymore.
                                                                                                                                                                          I don't suck cock sorry, loser. And you are wrong. We have not had an ad in AVN for some time because it was no longer worth it for us since they consolidated the magazines. We dp support the shows that we feel are worth it for us. We are much pickier now then we were several years ago.


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                                                                                                                                                                            • NETbilling
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                              • 8598
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by neeko
                                                                                                                                                                              The show was pretty decent imo...


                                                                                                                                                                              Great to see familiar faces and very happy to have met some new ones.

                                                                                                                                                                              I can't understand why anyone would say a show is 'useless'.

                                                                                                                                                                              Set your goals. Meet people. Grow your business.

                                                                                                                                                                              Anyone who can't do that...should really reconsider his business plan.

                                                                                                                                                                              100% agreed. It was great seeing you guys too.


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                                                                                                                                                                                • Anthony
                                                                                                                                                                                  Keyboard Warrior
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 9653
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by TheSenator
                                                                                                                                                                                  What is an AVN?

                                                                                                                                                                                  Anyway, I hear the biggest business being done, is done in New Jersey and its happen next week.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Im bringing cheesecake.
                                                                                                                                                                                  I doubt most people heard about the BBQ. I've been meaning to get out there one of these years for this party.

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