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KingpinMedia 08-01-2010 06:24 PM

Class Action Suit: Archive Cash and Rehab Dollars
 
I know a lot of people are owed money by SOBV, and I was wondering how many webmasters want to get together and file a joint lawsuit. I've never had to do this before, so I don't really know how the process even works. Theses companies owe me a decent amount of money, and that aside, It's the way these companies are handling this situation that makes me want to do this. Realistically, I don't think we will ever get paid, but maybe this will be a thorn in their side.

If any of you have any experiences with this sort of thing, I'd love to hear any feedback. Also, if anyone knows an attorney that would work well with this, please let me know.

So if you a webmaster interested in going in with me on this, please contact me.

Thanks.

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-01-2010 06:37 PM

Definitely go with http://www.chadknowslaw.com/

He is already very familiar with SOBV.

baddog 08-01-2010 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by area51 (Post 17380369)
Definitely go with http://www.chadknowslaw.com/

He is already very familiar with SOBV.

While I can't disagree with the recommendation, what were his prior dealings with SOBV?

Barefootsies 08-01-2010 06:51 PM

Interesting turn of events.

datatank 08-01-2010 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17380370)
While I can't disagree with the recommendation, what were his prior dealings with SOBV?

trademark or copyright. I think from Broke Street Boys

Mr. Cool Ice 08-02-2010 03:58 AM

Unless you are owed a serious amount of money (and I don't mean $1000) it probably won't be worth it. Even if there is a judgment in your favor and their assets could be located and seized (highly unlikely based on everything I've been reading about them), you'll end up with a very, very small percent of what you were owed. The attorney wins big, you end up with lunch money.

This is an unfortunate situation.

v4 media 08-02-2010 04:19 AM

Are they offshore? if so it's damn near impossible to collect.

james_clickmemedia 08-02-2010 04:21 AM

good luck with that. $$$$ for lawyers.

TheDoc 08-02-2010 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Cool Ice (Post 17380936)
Unless you are owed a serious amount of money (and I don't mean $1000) it probably won't be worth it. Even if there is a judgment in your favor and their assets could be located and seized (highly unlikely based on everything I've been reading about them), you'll end up with a very, very small percent of what you were owed. The attorney wins big, you end up with lunch money.

This is an unfortunate situation.

It's not hard to get domains shut down.

Vedder 08-02-2010 11:08 AM

count me in

Agent 488 08-02-2010 11:10 AM

located in the states:

https://encrypted.google.com/search?...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

people are owed way more than a grand. hundreds if not more.

fuzebox 08-02-2010 11:25 AM

Didn't bodog lose their domains as payment for a lawsuit? That could be decent compensation...

LeivaMedia 08-02-2010 03:16 PM

bump :disgust

Trend 08-02-2010 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Cool Ice (Post 17380936)
Unless you are owed a serious amount of money (and I don't mean $1000) it probably won't be worth it. Even if there is a judgment in your favor and their assets could be located and seized (highly unlikely based on everything I've been reading about them), you'll end up with a very, very small percent of what you were owed. The attorney wins big, you end up with lunch money.

This is an unfortunate situation.

Depending on the TOS you could end up A LOT worse off than that. I've sen many TOS's that limit your dealings to " the program " or " the domain " of the program and additionally limit any suit to a pre-defined amount. Some go so far as to say you are "entitled" to nothing or they can change the payout's at any time etc etc etc ...

Went down this road before ( in mainstream ) and seriously wish I had not.

KingpinMedia 08-02-2010 05:46 PM

I just added it up, they owe me 15k.

I see JJ on ICQ all the fucking time. I wish they'd at least have enough tact to give us some reassurances.

$5 submissions 08-02-2010 05:48 PM

Do you think the potential payout is in the millions? How deep are the pockets of the defendant? Is there a common set of facts or is each tort peculiar to each plaintiff?

Just asking some basic questions. Litigation isn't cheap.

Jinx 08-02-2010 06:12 PM

We're owed around 8k over here. I'll be back later, and I'll hit you up KingpinMedia

pornlaw 08-02-2010 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 17382809)
Do you think the potential payout is in the millions? How deep are the pockets of the defendant? Is there a common set of facts or is each tort peculiar to each plaintiff?

Just asking some basic questions. Litigation isn't cheap.

Not basic.... vital to a class being certified. Depending on the jurisdiction, it is sometimes impossible to get a class certified by the court based on what $5 Submission stated... is there a common set of facts or is each tort peculiar to each plaintiff ?

And its actually a detailed analysis the court goes through to determine the answer to this basic question.

Paul Markham 08-03-2010 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Cool Ice (Post 17380936)
Unless you are owed a serious amount of money (and I don't mean $1000) it probably won't be worth it. Even if there is a judgment in your favor and their assets could be located and seized (highly unlikely based on everything I've been reading about them), you'll end up with a very, very small percent of what you were owed. The attorney wins big, you end up with lunch money.

This is an unfortunate situation.

Most sensible post in the thread.

lagcam 08-03-2010 12:18 AM

It always hurts to lose money, but when you throw a lot more money at trying to get back that lost money, it always hurts more.

V_RocKs 08-03-2010 12:54 AM

Send some goons. You have goons right? What kind of porn king doesn't have goons?

NetHorse 08-03-2010 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 17383362)
Send some goons. You have goons right? What kind of porn king doesn't have goons?

Yes. Send someone to break their legs. I'm sure you can hire a crackhead in this industry willing to do it for pennies. :)

erooup 08-03-2010 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 17383930)
Yes. Send someone to break their legs. I'm sure you can hire a crackhead in this industry willing to do it for pennies. :)

If someone sends me a video of them breaking their arms and legs, I wouldn't mind spending $500 on a copy.

LeivaMedia 08-04-2010 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Cool Ice (Post 17380936)
Unless you are owed a serious amount of money (and I don't mean $1000) it probably won't be worth it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingpinMedia (Post 17382804)
I just added it up, they owe me 15k.

Add $19,900.75 that they own me.

signupdamnit 08-04-2010 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Cool Ice (Post 17380936)
Unless you are owed a serious amount of money (and I don't mean $1000) it probably won't be worth it. Even if there is a judgment in your favor and their assets could be located and seized (highly unlikely based on everything I've been reading about them), you'll end up with a very, very small percent of what you were owed. The attorney wins big, you end up with lunch money.

This is an unfortunate situation.

Perhaps part of it for some is just to send a message to other sponsors that affiliates will not silently roll over if you screw them. I'd think even for some if all they could do is seize their domain names this would bring a lot of satisfaction.

Agent 488 08-04-2010 09:31 AM

someone just got killed around here over a 20 dollar drug deal. it happens.

LeivaMedia 08-04-2010 02:19 PM

Just updating my avatar

tucker 08-04-2010 02:23 PM

You don't need to file a class action; you can have multiple Plaintiffs.

vano 08-04-2010 02:32 PM

Rehab owe us 17k

pornstar2fag 08-04-2010 02:35 PM

none of you pussies are gonna do shit but roll over and take it. thats why every program here that has closed, just fucked you all. why? because they know not a thing will happen. and the same thing will happen this time too. NOTHING!

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-04-2010 02:45 PM

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icymelon 08-04-2010 04:43 PM

how much is your time worth. factor that in too

Sexvilly 08-06-2010 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingpinMedia (Post 17380359)
So if you a webmaster interested in going in with me on this, please contact me.

contacted

I wonder if it is legally possible to get their merchant account frozen up or something.

pornstar2fag 08-07-2010 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by area51 (Post 17380369)
Definitely go with http://www.chadknowslaw.com/

He is already very familiar with SOBV.

the LAST attorney I'd hire to litigate a business suit would be an adult attorney... fugggg that.

pornstar2fag 08-07-2010 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeivaMedia (Post 17388619)
Just updating my avatar


where? on iq69?

DWB 01-26-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeivaMedia (Post 17387120)
Add $19,900.75 that they own me.

You ever get paid?

KingpinMedia 01-26-2011 02:32 PM

No one got paid. and no one will. fucking scammers.

NetHorse 01-27-2011 09:11 AM

Damn, they owe some of you a lot of money. They only owe me $160, whatever, I'm not going to waste my time pursuing that.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 01-27-2011 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2fag (Post 17388717)
none of you pussies are gonna do shit but roll over and take it. thats why every program here that has closed, just fucked you all. why? because they know not a thing will happen. and the same thing will happen this time too. NOTHING!

:thumbsup:1orglaugh troof hertz

SmokeyTheBear 01-27-2011 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trend (Post 17382530)
Depending on the TOS you could end up A LOT worse off than that. I've sen many TOS's that limit your dealings to " the program " or " the domain " of the program and additionally limit any suit to a pre-defined amount. Some go so far as to say you are "entitled" to nothing or they can change the payout's at any time etc etc etc ...

Went down this road before ( in mainstream ) and seriously wish I had not.

tos isn't the same as a legal agreement. if they added , "by signing up you agree to sell us your house for $1 and to recieve 100% of your income for life "

they couldn't just take your house and all your paychecks for the rest of your life.

every amusement park in america has a tos that reads something like " we cannot be held responsible for injury etc etc " , yet loads of them have been sued and were eventually held responsible for an injury

DWB 01-27-2011 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingpinMedia (Post 17871404)
No one got paid. and no one will. fucking scammers.

What's your ICQ? Or any method of contact.

CaptainHowdy 01-27-2011 09:59 AM

Good luck I guess...


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