i'll never understand domainers
 

every time I have emailed a domain owner with a premium domain I either get NO response at all OR a reply 'not interested in selling at this time'. i don't get it, they have NO idea what I might offer or who I might be. I own one premium domain, I don't have any interest really in selling but when I get inquiry emails about it I tell the person interested that I'm not really interested in selling BUT of course everything is for sale for a price so make an offer. The big domainers don't even want an offer - it makes no sense, how do they know I'm not somebody working for a Fortune 500 company who would offer them 7 figures?

i dont reply to people like you all the time. sometimes we're just holding domains and know that there isn't an offer or its not the time.

Perhaps they are holding them like real estate and want to wait like 10 yrs.

They probably get 5+ emails a day

If the domain isn't being used, it's for sale in my book.

I always get hit up with active domains that generate $$$ which are not forsale.

Make an interesting offer to get their attention. It's a hassle to reply just to see if you're that rare individual with a serious offer or the usual low ball offer. The reason they can reply with "not interested in selling" is they know a serious buyer will usually reply with an offer or persist through negotiations.

I'm pretty sure they know a Fortune 500 Company isn't emailing them about "HairyCuntBangers.com".

:-)

Its quite simple actually, those kinda of people

1. have brokers doing the work for them and a price range in mind
2. Dont contact us using [email protected]
offering $50

i don't look for hairycuntbangers.com domains thanks

bingo.

it amazes me the sense of entitlement some people have. i didn't get a reply so im going to gfy and complain because we all know the biggest domaineers sit around watching gfy for important people to complain that they aren't replying. haha.

who are you, or anyone for that matter to expect a reply?

gees.

who are u douchebag?

you never made money on domain, stfu teencat, i know, bye :)

oh - my premium domain isn't a premium 7 figure domain - it's premium to me, it's a xx,xxx domain.

hey mutt, shut that kid down before someone else will do it with all the shit around :winkwink:

Its Mr. Izz

include a fair OFFER in your first email
contact the registar if they are big players the registar can submit reasonable offers on your behalf. Atleast so I have heard.

Also what email are you using to contact them and any sig in your email?

I usually get 1 - 3 mails per day wanting some of my domains... some of them are more than 10 years old and are parked from day 1.

- If there is no serious offer then I don't even bother to reply. Something like "Are you interested in selling XXX domain?" = no reply.
- If the offer is just ridiculous, then I don't reply. "I give you $250 for your domain" = no reply
- If it comes from gmail, hotmail or whatever similar place I don't reply. I want to know whom I am dealing with.
- If it comes without something like "Hello, my name is XXX I work for YYY and my company is interested in ZZZ domain" I don't reply.

A domain is a valuable asset. Once sold it's gone forever, so better give me a good offer. Any domain when parked makes more than $7 per year, so they are basically free to have.

If you are interested in buying domains then follow these simple rules and you will have much higher chance to get some reply:

1 ) Use a real mail address from your company and not a gmail or hotmail.
2 ) Use a mail subject that describes your intentions. "Interested in purchasing XXX domain" is ok. "Hello, dear friend" is not.
3 ) Remember to present yourself in the asking mail and give some decent offer. Something like "Hey, I want to buy your domain. I give you $250 on epass. Are you interested?" would go directly to the trash with no reply.
Try something like this:

************************************
Hello,

My name is XXX and I work for YYY company. My company would be interested to add ZZZ domain to our portfolio.
Would like to know if you would be interested to sell that domain. My company is willing to offer XYZ$$$ for it. If you are interested in our offer or willing to negotiate it, please make me know.

Best regards
XXX
**********************************

If the offering sum for the domain is more than $1k then offer them the purchase to go through escrow. some people would make you go through escrow even with an $500 offer.

And just for the record, I rarely reply to offers under $1k for my domains. They are just not worth my time unless I am cleaning some domain portfolio.

We aren't Fortune500 but a lot closer than most being we trade on the NASDAQ and we have made offers on many domains as hardcore as that.. :winkwink:

maybe they just cant sell it :(

People that make the assumption that no serious buyers ever offer through a gmail or hotmail are kidding themselves. Sometimes buyers want to remain anonymous...what do I care if they do if they end up buying? I've sold a lot to such buyers and to buyers who didn't start with an offer...both of those things don't mean they're not serious. Sure, a lot of timewasters do those things too but no reason to never respond to them.

From the other perspective, sometimes domain owners don't want to sell the domain, simple as that. I had one that I recently decided to sell that I was intending to develop and thus was more or less indicating to people it was not for sale for a reasonable price. I would still at least RESPOND to them as I don't feel it's good business practice to simply ignore people, but I let them know that they'd have to offer something beyond what they were probably expecting to in order to get the domain.

So make an offer. or make a phone call.. writing is on the door

They covet.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ytDFGxzv-ss/SA...ter%20copy.jpg

ANY? come on

I've come to the conclusion that domainers are completely delusional about what most of their domain names are worth. In their minds they're trillionaires, so to have to sell a domain at several magnitudes less than what they imagine it's worth, would be a frightening experience.

Any one worth keeping.

i am not mr izz whatever that is.

Depends on the situation really.

If the domain is not listed for sale anywhere then your email is unsolicited and as such, it being ignored shouldn't be a surprise to you.

If it is listed for sale, and you are using the correct contact details, then they are either not receiving the email or are receiving too many emails, or maybe they are just waiting to see what enquiries they get and will filter and respond to all after a period of time.

I agree with PORNMD about not automatically dismissing gmail, hotmail etc. If I was enquiring about a domain, it is unlikely I would use an identifying email in the INITIAL approach and to expect somebody to present credentials and price they are willing to pay in that first email is just not realistic.

No matter how great the domain, nobody wants to pay more than they have to.

If domain not listed for sale, I would start with something like this:

"I understand you are the owner of x domain. I do not know whether you are interested in selling this domain, but if you are, I would appreciate if you could give me an idea of the kind of price you would be looking for.

If you are not considering selling at this time, my apologies for troubling you, however if this changes, please feel free to contact me."

If they didn't reply to that, well then they are just downright rude
:winkwink:

It doesn't really matter what the domain owner should do or how he should handle it. If you're the buyer looking for a different type of response or a price, at least you'll understand why he isn't responding or telling you it isn't for sale.

Convince the domain owner that you're a serious buyer and you'll probably have better luck.

I get these type of mails all the time, and usually delete them immediately as they are usually sent from a gmail account saying something like

Hey, interested in buying that±domain.com, what's your asking price?

Hey Hey Hey ... WHAT

maybe they don't want to sell it? seems simple.

9 times out of 10 I get "what are you asking?" I don't price names. I will always reply back with make me an offer and I'll consider it. If the offer is reasonable enough it's generally off to a billing request. If it's not I'll respond back with a ballpark figure. But 9 times out of 10 people won't respond back with an offer because they feel I should have a price. To me it's pretty simple. I have something you want. If you to get it from me then you MUST convince me that you want it more than I. There is no pricing of a domain. It's 100% of the time the happy medium between buyer and seller. And the seller has the advantage here. Don't expect a wise seller to shoot himself in the foot. Even if you are from a fortune 500 company and I'm content on my selling price, I'm still content after the fact. Make an offer.. All they can do is say no..

I got a bug up my ass on Sunday night and emailed 4 people asking if their domains were for sale with a yahoo email address. They all responded, things are tough out there and people need money.

Make a long story short I am purchasing 3 out of 4 domains, the one that I am not getting was out of my price range 20k.

My email to them was:

In the email title: domain name xxxxxxxxx

Hi,

I noticed your domain xxxxxxx is not developed yet, and wanted to know if the domain name was for sale?

Sorry for bothering you if it is not for sale.

Thanks,
Jimmy xxxx

try going through sedo they might take you more seriously

Drives me crazy to see a good domain parked and they don't reply to a good offer.

Many can't tell what a good offer is, I offer less then what I am willing to pay, and keep going back and forth about splitting the difference after each offer and counter offer. My experience in domaining is that it is easy to purchase domains but not easy to sell them. I have let good names just expire due to not trying to sell them. You need a network of people or places to try and market your domains. If your posting on 50 boards trying to sell a $50 domain it takes too much time.

Powercum summed it all up.

Exactly. Just look at some of the domain marketplaces to see how fucking deluded people are to what their domains are worth.

Example:

freefacetimesex.com 10,000 Euros
sexyshopdiscount.com 2,000 Pounds
tubeher.com $9,000

(these were taken from the Sedo "featured" section)

This just says to me, "I don't want to sell this domain so I'll put a silly price"

Either inquire with your offer or don't expect a response. Don't be like, "Hello, is your domain for sale? How much will you sell it for?" That type of approach will rarely elicit a response.

I never respond to those emails. If I want to sell a domain I put it on sedo. If it's not on Sedo I dont want to sell it.

I always respond to a buyer but, I have learned if someone writes and says, "I am interested in thisdomain.com, how much do you want for it?" If you respond with a price, you will almost always never hear back from them. Granted maybe I respond too high but if you only want to spend $50, then make an offer for $50.

It is "bad form" to go fishing with a seller and ask them what they want to sell it for. A buyer should always mention in the opening letter that they will be making an offer or make an offer right away. Unless the domain is already listed Fixed Price somewhere.

That method is best for both parties imo.

ALWAYS include a serious offer, if you offer them x,xxx or xx,xxx in the initial e-mail they will be able to tell you're a serious buyer.

If they're thinking of selling porn domains in 2020 then they're nuts. With the .XXX around now is the time to sell, if you get the right price. You're going to be left with a lot of nothing if it becomes compulsory.

As for people not responding to an email, that's plain rude and bad business.

During the days we used to shoot we always replied to every email asking us to shoot custom. Even though we knew most were just looking for a price less than they had already been offered. A few came through at the price we charged, but even those who didn't not replying is just rude.

The numbers of people here hanging onto their domains show, there's plenty doing the same. Let's hope they don't end up with curdled milk.