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BigDeanEvans 07-19-2010 10:36 PM

Did they ban pre-checked cross sales or what?
 
I still see some companies doing this...i thought they banned that or do they allow some companies doing a large volume of sales with low CB ratios?

XPays 07-19-2010 10:39 PM

the rules changed- you can still do it

fuzebox 07-19-2010 10:43 PM

Who is "they"? And what do you mean by "banned"?

BigDeanEvans 07-19-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 17347884)
Who is "they"? And what do you mean by "banned"?

Sorry, i meant Visa/Mastercard or any of the 3rd party billers, epoch etc. and by banned i mean not allowed, cant do it... like so fucking banned ;)

DigitalTheory 07-19-2010 11:06 PM

The rules changed, it can be prechecked (or not, not to clear on that part) but the person has to re-enter the credit card information so they clearly know they are getting something else also.

TheDoc 07-19-2010 11:12 PM

A couple of Banks don't allow pre-checks, I'm sure a couple others will jump on board over time. The bank shake down scared the banks. End of the day then, it's up to the bank history, if all is good the bank has the choice, if not the choice is taken away. As of right now the majority of adult friendly banks allow pre-checks.

The way the banks/visa works, if it's not being abused - it won't ever go away. Pre-checks do not abuse the ratios, at all.

The the last Visa change was about sharing billing data/cc info with other Companies, which is a privacy violation. So "if you get caught" sharing billing with a different Company, and the person didn't confirm it (like one-clicks work at least) you're going to get fined, maybe get shut down - for sure fined. It has nothing to do with being allowed to do xsales, it has to do with how xsales are done.

However, a few different ways to get around it and stay within the rules, that aren't abusing either. That's what you're seeing more of today.

Chosen 07-20-2010 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalTheory (Post 17347904)
The rules changed, it can be prechecked (or not, not to clear on that part) but the person has to re-enter the credit card information so they clearly know they are getting something else also.

Useful info, thanks!

$5 submissions 07-20-2010 03:01 AM

I wonder if automatic rebill rules will change as well...

seeandsee 07-20-2010 04:22 AM

i saw some prechecked few days ago, maybe i was wrong?

Klen 07-20-2010 05:01 AM

I still see a lot of sponsors with pre checked.

wig 07-20-2010 05:12 AM

If you have your own merchant account and are cross selling to yourself, the consumer is still dealing with the same company so the credit card information has not been shared with another party and therefore would not require the re-entry of credit card data.

Also, if you are using a IPSP like WTSeu, CCbill, etc then the credit card data is only collected by the IPSP, cross sales can occur with different merchants, and no re-entry of data is required.

This is my understanding.

BigDeanEvans 07-20-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 17348224)
I still see a lot of sponsors with pre checked.

Yeah there's quite a few sites doing it still..i see fuckyoucash is doing it.


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