Bryci, Talia Shepard, Katie Banks and Ava Dawn are banned from Pichunter
 

Sorry to all krawl submitters. Because Bryci's webmaster is pushing DMCA issues, we are removing all images of her from the website. Our apologies for your lost traffic, talk to their program.




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So much for Bryci.

yo - when are you coming back to Brno - lets have a beer :glugglug

Next summer most likely! I love that place :thumbsup

Holy Shit!!!

What an idiot to burn a major bridge like PicHunter!!!

Is Bella Cash owned by the same dude who owns http://www.gndbank.com/ ???

too bad. Bryci has a nice set of tits on her.

Ass isn't half bad either...

Yeah, Bryci has an awesome rack. Too bad her manager is an idiot.

Yeah, he's clearly got a fishstick up his ass. Who in their right mind throws a hissy fit and makes threats in their DMCA?

He should check out 4chan. her stuff is all over the place on there.

Wow this has gotten blown out of proportion so bad it's stupid.

Dramalama says hello by the way.

Read the emails above, we asked that things be removed from cliphunter as it was stolen material. Not unlike anyone else.

Your guy emails back telling me how it works, or rather, how he sees it. More or less, trying to justify the theft of content. We had no interest in suing anyone, but it's a DMCA, when you don't remove the content as you're asked, don't you expect the company to say hey, we're going to look at legal options or contacting your host or whatever if you don't remove our content? It was never a threat, it was if you don't remove our content, we'll look at other options to have it removed, that wasn't a threat, that was how DMCA's work. If the site doesn't remove, you take action.

We NEVER had issue with Pichunter. We had issue with Cliphunter. We asked that our things be removed, your guy started in about Pichunter, why? Not sure exactly, we never had issues with them or the affiliates using PicHunter.

Your guy made this about Pichunter and the affiliates. Your guy said you'd decide to remove images from Pichunter. This all stemmed because you had our stolen videos on cliphunter and your guy wanted to explain that I had to allow this and adapt, this is how it works etc.

I disagreed and he then said fine, we're dropping you from PH.

Drama all over twitter. You try and contact Bryci so you can clear this up, she tells you to email [email protected] and do you? Did you email to clear this up as you requested?

No, instead spam your drama all over twitter and now here, and you seem to think you're professional? Really?

it's clear you're trying to hurt our program, which is fine and well. Affiliates that promote us are doing great. Pichunter is still fine by us, again, it was only after YOUR GUY said you were removing our content that we said great, remove our content.

Cliphunter though, is still not allowed to steal our content.

Not sure why this became GFY drama but perhaps that's how you run your company.

Pic Hunter and Clip Hunter are the same database from the krawl newtork.

Pichunter galleries appear on cliphunter, cliphunter streams appear on pichunter. The sites are the same database, with different designs.

We've had issue with other people over their "brand" terms. ATK, Anilos, and others have been fairly silly regarding their "terms" of content usage. Usually the issue is over the restriction of "thumbnails" of their content on pages that do not link to them exclusively. Such as on a category page, or search. We have removed their content until they issue specific licenses or exceptions to us in writing. If you take your content rights that seriously, we can't afford to display a "thumbnail" or "cache" any of your images when you get ridiculous with take down notices that are demanded without respect to reason.

Complaints are processed as a matter of routine. Threats to sue, references to imminent legal action and furthermore are presented to the legal team immediately, and our response to the incident is escalated.

In this case, we were advised to remove all of your images as soon as possible to prevent further potential liability. We're not sure which submitters are or are not following your terms exactly, so we must prohibit them from exposing us to further liability indirectly.

Actually I @Replied you days ago asking for an ICQ, or other IM service contact so we could have a conversation, rather than a series of "statements" via e-mail. My request went without response. Also, e-mail only support is fairly shitty, but whatever.

At no point did we steal your content. Click the unhappy face on any page of cliphunter, and report content as "copyright infringement". And it would be automatically removed within 10 minutes. Furthermore, at no point were anything other than thumbnails stored on pichunter or cliphunter servers. They are search based displays of other sites that have material. If they remove, we do not have a copy. Your issue is with them, or the user that uploaded to them, not us.

At anypoint when people threaten legal action, we are cautious. RK, Brazzers, Adult Friend Finder, and others have been embattled in court actions recently. Courtrooms are costly and hinder progress, we avoid them at all costs.

Removing content is something we did for you immediately on first contact, and do routinely without verification or legal DMCA request for users and companies routinely, along with auto removal tools on the public site. You however threatened to "Show us how" whatever you were. So, we continued removal to make you happier.

Quote Bryci, "@PichunterDotCom ban away sweetie ;)"

So, we're notifying our submitters of a change of Rules, and informing them why we are disabling their galleries so that they don't think that we are mad at them. It is not uncommon for our company to make announcements on this board regarding changes to our rules.

@TarPy

Dunno whether there is an actual problem or not but on pichunter recently a lot of the pages of individual sites show no listings.

example:
http://galleries.pichunter.com/krawl...548/index.html

there's two links for more similar at the bottom:

http://www.pichunter.com/models/all/lauren - works fine - loads a page of thumbs

http://www.pichunter.com/sites/explo...ge_girls.shtml - loads a page: No galleries were found for this site.

yes, there is an issue we are tracking, but thanks for the help. specific errors always help track problems

You're getting a lot of sympathy on here despite running a torrent section.

To lazy to look up the torrent section....


Please post link

ouch......

phTorrents - A great deal of the content there is actually licensed under special promotional agreements with those companies. We have no outstanding DMCA complaints against that site, and have had only 5 ever.

Fair enough if it's licensed. Apologies.

OWNED!!! :1orglaugh

That's because we try our very hardest not to be assholes. There are some conventions and standards that are certainly being debated on a global scale regarding Copyright and how to handle it. I have never advocated the "tube" style of doing things. However, it does appear to be the winning format. You can't just keep releasing Beta Porn in a VHS/DVD/Blu-Ray world.

Ask around, we've always been easy to work with, we didn't start the "tube" game. In fact, we lost an absurd amount of market share to RedTube, YouPorn, and PornHub when we made the decision to close Gexo.com in 2008 when it was very competitive with those. That decision has cost our company millions, but we were hoping that large producers would level the playing field.

This did not happen. We are providing surfers with the tools they expect to have to facilitate browsing and downloading according to the legal standards provided by the courts. Everything was removed in 24 hours like it should be.

Apology accepted, however, I'll point out some of that is still unmoderated user-submitted content. So, DMCA violations may exist on that site. However, we have not been informed of any issues.

Hey tarpy.. krawl forum still active? The forgot password feature doesn't seem to be sending me my password

Me too...

While you're at it, tell ya what... remove all of Talia Shepard, Katie
Banks and Ava Dawn as well. We own those too.

I heard that Talia Shephard's site was doing very little business...

We took over Talia's site in the last month and it's been selling like hotcakes. No idea how it was doing before we took it over though.

So I got curious after the claim of all this traffic you guys have. I looked up the sales we get referred from your site, pichunter. Sure you're a huge site, but you're not sending anywhere near the sales you should be if you truly have the traffic you suggest. You guys are huge, no question.. but in comparison.. FreeOnes has very similar traffic and they are always in our top 5 affiliates, where as you are not in the top 100. Odd wouldn't you say? I checked referring urls for sales and yup, Freeones and other affs are all over, where as PicHunter isn't. I thought that was odd. It's not the content, Freeones makes a boatload monthly from us.

You didn't @msg me trying to contact me, I checked. If I somehow missed it, you can point it out to me and I'll gladly apologize. Either way, you were specifically asked by Bryci and myself to email us if you wanted to clear it up. Did you? No. Instead you bring drama and post all over twitter and here rather than a simple email. Very professional I might add.

What does this do exactly? Affiliates weren't nailing sales using your site anyway so why do they care we're not there anymore?

Also, continual posting of drama on twitter? Yeah, we'd rather not to business with you. Thanks though. :)

@Bryci responded the way she did because she told you how to fix the problem, instead, you went all drama. She doesn't want you promoting us either. See what you did there? You lost one of the girls that could have made you money.

I might be wrong, but you do understand without producers or girls, you are out a job, right? You need us more than we need you. In a perfect world we all get along but after reading how you handle things, we'd like to be removed, as we said.

Judging from the affiliates that have contacted me, thrilled we are not on your site now, and the others signing up for BellaCash, when you started to try and knock us down you ended up sending us more traffic.

You don't promote us, what happens? Nothing. Others still do and they get more sales because the content isn't as out there now. We're okay with this.

Thank you. :)

Have a great weekend all!

To the rest, we're still kicking ass and the sales back it up. Talk to any affiliate promoting us.

I don't come to GFY for honesty and transparency! I come here for draaaamaaaa! Dammit!

Maybe, like Rick in Casablanca, I was misinformed.

My all time favorite GFY post: no matter how bad we look in this GFY drama we are drowning in new affiliates!!!!

You sir, are an idiot.

No, it would be the part where they have done babe/non-nude forever, and our surfers have always been into Porn. Freeones does great for glamour/solo/nude. We kill them usually on things involving sex, fetishes, and anything not attractive.

And I'm sure your affiliate appreciate your concern for the traffic your over-zealous ego-driven threats lost them.

Yes, I'm sure being on PicHunter was the reason you're a small program with only 1 successful site.

Never was trying to knock you down. You're a moron that doesn't understand cache, that threatens to show us just how "real" you are... The knocking is self evident, but for giggles...

1. You have one good site, based only on the model's look. A success you can't replicate.
2. Your photography is adequate, but your photographer certainly isn't a "skill position" at your website.
3. The webmaster in charge of the program is too dumb to know what "cache" is.
4. You're lucky to be fucking the model, or she'd have left for a better program by now.
5. Your cash program sucks.
6. Get a fucking ICQ number.
7. You couldn't back up your threats to sue, ever. Your content is open season and you fucking know it.
8. So does everyone else. That's why they are all laughing.
9. All in all, I wish you the best of luck. But if your brain writes the e-mails rather than big dick ego of yours. You'd have more success.

Fact is you wrote a DMCA threatening to show us "how real" you are, and you're anything but. You're small time, and your content could be all over our site, and there really wouldn't be shit you could do to stop it. We know it, but we remove your content because it's the right thing to do not because we're afraid of some bullshit small time program like yours starting an international lawsuit against us. We'd destroy you in court. Sucks, but it's true. Believe me, we have spoken to lawyers, and our lawyers are probably better than yours.

Fixed now.

SpunkyCash owns gndbank now, if I remember correctly.

Wow :Oh crap

Cliphunter is a tube aggregator site though, you embed videos from tube sites like XVideos in Cliphunter's pages. Bryci's videos are embedded in Cliphunter pages?

the thumbs/cache thing i agree isn't worth getting upset about - but if Bryci videos are embedded on Cliphunter without links to her website................ not good.

I wasn't upset about it, I sent a DMCA to have them removed, same as every other site and not one site ever said anything other than, no worries, content removed.

That wasn't the normal DMCA we send out, that one was sent after a night of DMCA'ing and having several previous tube sites ignore emails. Seems the only way you get things done is to contact a host these days.

Yes, it was worded stronger than it should have been and for that, I apologize. Petr brought up the whole "we're pichunter, do you know what traffic we send" comments and then after he wrote that long ego email about how I have to accept tubes and all this other junk and that's pretty much when i was like.. why do I care about this guy again? I check referring urls and sales and he isn't in the top 100. For someone with 3 million plus per month, I'd have thought he'd be a major player. Of course when i asked about this, he had a good reason, they're new to the solo babe thing. I'd still have thought they'd be in the top 100, but meh, whatever.

This TarPy guy was nice when he tweeted to Bryci. Bryci tweeted back how to reach me. Did he try and reach me? No. Instead, he goes into high drama mode tweeting like his life depends on it. Doesn't email to sort things out like he said he wanted to. Doesn't @ message me either like he said he did. Then he goes all GFY drama in here. Should have expected as much.

I point out his traffic/sales don't quite match the size of the ego and he goes postal once again, insulting anything he can. Yup, this is a guy I want to do business with. heh

Best of luck Pichunter, we'll be watching for you to remove all of our content. We figure you can't convert it anyway so might as well ban it and remove it. :)

Have a great weekend.

(this is where you keep typing because you feel the need to further insult and get in the last word. Isn't GFY great? Hells yeah!)

This has turned into "who has the biggest penis" on GFY.

It wouldn't really be a contest. Besides, the guy just summed it up on the last post. He took his anger out on the industry out on Pichunter who never ignored his e-mails. Shouldn't have, and we removed him.

He's just pissed he could never afford a lawyer, and we have more than a few. ;-)

Here's to his response :pimp, after all, I'm sure he'd like the last word.

I'll help his noob ass.. This thread is a complete fail without this

http://spa.fotolog.com/photo/10/47/8...10354390_f.jpg


But Gisele is hotter and sells better.

http://gh4photos.freeones.com//l_bab...2/images/6.jpg

in the future, you turn threads about you with excessive girl booty

Gisele is fucking hot!
http://www.getyourstrokeon.com/wp-co...torcycle06.jpg

http://www.pichunterblog.com/wp-cont...r7-500x734.jpg

Aaliyah Love

http://www.pichunterblog.com/wp-cont...e1-500x750.jpg

rachel Aziani

http://www.pichunterblog.com/wp-cont...7d47815fdd.jpg

Janessa Brazil

and

http://www.pichunterblog.com/wp-cont...07-500x750.jpg
Mariah Milano

For some girls you can promote without dealing with their hot headed over-protective under-informed boyfriend ankle weights... LOL... Boyfriends, get a skill in life.

Who wants a shirt, we've got shitty unproductive traffic to send since Bryci and crew don't need it!

She wants you, Tarpy:

http://gotgisele.com/blog/wp-content...07/D3C8274.jpg

Gisele's a silly goose.

Hey fuckface, where u been hiding? I have needs.

:thumbsup

We just had a similar run-in with the idiot running the program. He even send us a DMCA after we took down the content. Content he allowed uf to use before we posted the first post (out of two) on the blog.

If I had time to deal with that asshat, I would make him pay for sending a DMCA under false premises.

:thumbsup

Hi TarPy!

yo send the new stuff on over, Misty hasn't done a PH shoot in a long time.. maybe even since NN days

great gfy drama....good stuff