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  • Dirty Dane
    Sick Fuck
    • Feb 2004
    • 9491
    #1

    US government declares war on piracy - strategy plan released.

    To those of you suffer: Help IS on its way.

    To those who have abused: We WILL take you out of business.
    Biden: Piracy it theft. Clean and simple.



    Video of press conference:
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/...property-theft

    Strategy plan:
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/intellectualproperty/
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    • CYF
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      • Mar 2009
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      #2
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        • candyflip
          Carpe Visio
          • Jul 2002
          • 43069
          #3
          Will the "War On Piracy" be the new "War On Drugs"?

          Spend you some brain.
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            • Dirty Dane
              Sick Fuck
              • Feb 2004
              • 9491
              #4
              Illegal websites will be shut down. Simply as that.

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                • Gerco
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                  • Nov 2005
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                    • fatfoo
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                      • Mar 2003
                      • 27763
                      #6
                      I agree that privacy is theft.

                      Some people don't put a lock on their property.
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                        • HomerSimpson
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                          • Sep 2005
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                            • Zorgman
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                              • Aug 2002
                              • 6103
                              #8
                              Looks good on paper, hope it works in real life positions.
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                                • Gerco
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                                  • Nov 2005
                                  • 2052
                                  #9
                                  Hmm.. not a lot of responses.
                                  All the tube owners pretty quiet...
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                                    • Vendzilla
                                      Biker Gnome
                                      • Mar 2004
                                      • 23200
                                      #10
                                      they will tax us to pay for it
                                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                      think about that

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                                        • Boss Traffic Jim
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2002
                                          • 1150
                                          #11
                                          This is really great news for the whole industry, if it can actually happen.

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                                            • Argos88
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Sep 2009
                                              • 1732
                                              #12
                                              Interesting.

                                              So basically sites like AWEMPIRE should be taken down, am I right?

                                              They support sites like Extreme-board.com and pornbb.org (whois, the owner is RUSSIAN, so hard to take them to prison)

                                              But Im sure AWEMPIRE owners are NORTH-AMERICAN.

                                              .

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                                                • Gerco
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                  • 2052
                                                  #13
                                                  Ya, could be a possible shit storm brewing for the file download places, the sites that scrape content and repackage it as their own etc. would be nice to have a dmca with teeth.
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                                                    • Serge Litehead
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                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 5190
                                                      #14
                                                      interesting development, hopefully something good comes of it.

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                                                        • J. Falcon
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                                                          • May 2006
                                                          • 31587
                                                          #15
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                                                            • flashfire
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                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 13098
                                                              #16
                                                              yeah their first order of business will be to shut down illegal porn sites so the porn peddlers can get their business back

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                                                                • kmanrox
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                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                  • 29295
                                                                  #17
                                                                  it's about time we sent some ships to stop the somali pirates!!! ;)
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                                                                    • Mutt
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                      • 34431
                                                                      #18
                                                                      i skimmed through the .PDF - not a thing in there to help us other than some references to ACTA, which is our only hope to undo the damage the Digital Millenium Copyright Act has created for all copyright owners and their business partners. All that crap I read in the .PDF does nothing to address the legal liability of owners/hosting providers/advertisers of user-submitted content sites. All of them right now are hiding behind the safe harbor provision in the DMCA - the burden on the copyright owner to prove that the website being sued doesn't meet the safe harbor criteria is a huge burden. The only way to do that is to provide evidence that the website is uploading the infringing content themselves or encouraging/facilitating/paying others to do it.

                                                                      We don't need the government to be tracking down and prosecuting thieves of pornographic movies and photos - as if that would ever happen even if they employed 100,000 enforcement officers. What we need is new law that stops protecting those who steal and protects those who own and create copyrighted material so we can go after those who steal from us and stand a good job of winning.

                                                                      Sad because it could be so easy. As a copyright owner we should be able to contact websites like Pornhub, Rapidshare and serve them a C&D notice that their website may not accept any user submissions of our content - and a takedown of the content isn't enough, this time it's THEIR not our job to police their website for copyright infringements or suffer the financial penalties a new law would impose on them. If it's on your site, you're responsible.
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                                                                        • kane
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                          • 20684
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                          i skimmed through the .PDF - not a thing in there to help us other than some references to ACTA, which is our only hope to undo the damage the Digital Millenium Copyright Act has created for all copyright owners and their business partners. All that crap I read in the .PDF does nothing to address the legal liability of owners/hosting providers/advertisers of user-submitted content sites. All of them right now are hiding behind the safe harbor provision in the DMCA - the burden on the copyright owner to prove that the website being sued doesn't meet the safe harbor criteria is a huge burden. The only way to do that is to provide evidence that the website is uploading the infringing content themselves or encouraging/facilitating/paying others to do it.

                                                                          We don't need the government to be tracking down and prosecuting thieves of pornographic movies and photos - as if that would ever happen even if they employed 100,000 enforcement officers. What we need is new law that stops protecting those who steal and protects those who own and create copyrighted material so we can go after those who steal from us and stand a good job of winning.

                                                                          Sad because it could be so easy. As a copyright owner we should be able to contact websites like Pornhub, Rapidshare and serve them a C&D notice that their website may not accept any user submissions of our content - and a takedown of the content isn't enough, this time it's THEIR not our job to police their website for copyright infringements or suffer the financial penalties a new law would impose on them. If it's on your site, you're responsible.
                                                                          I agree. It seems like these days if you create content you need to have a full time staff just to keep people from stealing it. You should be able to contact a site and tell them flat out that you don't want any of your content on their and it should be up to them to make sure that happens.

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                                                                            • Davy
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Apr 2006
                                                                              • 4323
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I am watching the video. It does not sound as if this plan is directed at torrent websites etc. They seem to be more concerned with physical goods and their counterfeits.
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                                                                                • seeandsee
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  i hope they will close illegal tubes, so god help them
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                                                                                    • Paul Markham
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                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                      • 52942
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      The losses made by the film and record companies will prompt more action. These two industries have powerful lobbyists that will get results.

                                                                                      Let's hope it has some effect.



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                                                                                        • Klen
                                                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                                                          • 32234
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Argos88
                                                                                          Interesting.

                                                                                          So basically sites like AWEMPIRE should be taken down, am I right?

                                                                                          They support sites like Extreme-board.com and pornbb.org (whois, the owner is RUSSIAN, so hard to take them to prison)

                                                                                          But Im sure AWEMPIRE owners are NORTH-AMERICAN.

                                                                                          .
                                                                                          First,even if they stop supporting such sites,someone else would take their place so blaming them for that doesn't have much sense.Also,they are not north American,owners are from Hungary and awe is offshore company.

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                                                                                            • Major (Tom)
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                              • 32492
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Well I can say this with certainty. Soon, maybe not today, nor tomorrow, but there will definitely be some changes in the laws in the next few years.
                                                                                              ds

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                                                                                                • DamianJ
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2006
                                                                                                  • 15808
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  This is part of the counterfeit goods act, which in itself is as stupid as anyone who thinks that copyright infringement can be stopped.

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                                                                                                    • DamianJ
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                                                                      • 15808
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                      The losses made by the film and record companies will prompt more action.
                                                                                                      What losses? Both are making record profits, and recently admitted lying about "piracy" figures.

                                                                                                      Fraudulent piracy figures
                                                                                                      A May 31, 2006, MPAA press release about The Pirate Bay raid alleged that the film industry lost $6.1 billion domestically to piracy in 2005, and that internet piracy alone cost the studios $2.3 billion.[18] However, some 80 percent, or $4.8 billion, of the $6.1 billion figure represented non-commercial backups, either virtually on a device or physically on another disc, which is protected under United States law. The MPAA figures were based on a private study which was not independently verified for methodology or validity.
                                                                                                      On January 22, 2008, the MPAA admitted its claims about piracy occurring at colleges was inflated by up to 3000 percent.[19] These revelations came at a time when the MPAA was lobbying for a bill that would compel universities to crack down on piracy.[20]

                                                                                                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_...ion_of_America

                                                                                                      more
                                                                                                      http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9858416-7.html
                                                                                                      http://www.insidehighered.com/views/2008/01/29/green

                                                                                                      And the profits?

                                                                                                      http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/

                                                                                                      2009 was up 10% year on year for gross revenue.

                                                                                                      Also, what has the MPAA and RIAA actually achieved in terms of results Pauly?

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                                                                                                        • GatorB
                                                                                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                          • 18208
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by CYF
                                                                                                          I predict great results.
                                                                                                          I predict sarcasm.

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                                                                                                            • GatorB
                                                                                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                                              • 18208
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                                              What losses? Both are making record profits, and recently admitted lying about "piracy" figures.

                                                                                                              Fraudulent piracy figures
                                                                                                              A May 31, 2006, MPAA press release about The Pirate Bay raid alleged that the film industry lost $6.1 billion domestically to piracy in 2005, and that internet piracy alone cost the studios $2.3 billion.[18] However, some 80 percent, or $4.8 billion, of the $6.1 billion figure represented non-commercial backups, either virtually on a device or physically on another disc, which is protected under United States law. The MPAA figures were based on a private study which was not independently verified for methodology or validity.
                                                                                                              On January 22, 2008, the MPAA admitted its claims about piracy occurring at colleges was inflated by up to 3000 percent.[19] These revelations came at a time when the MPAA was lobbying for a bill that would compel universities to crack down on piracy.[20]

                                                                                                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_...ion_of_America

                                                                                                              more
                                                                                                              http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9858416-7.html
                                                                                                              http://www.insidehighered.com/views/2008/01/29/green

                                                                                                              And the profits?

                                                                                                              http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/

                                                                                                              2009 was up 10% year on year for gross revenue.

                                                                                                              Also, what has the MPAA and RIAA actually achieved in terms of results Pauly?
                                                                                                              Just a point to make here. Just because they had record profit doesn't mean piracy didn't still have an effect. Maybe they would have had 12% profit or whatever.

                                                                                                              if I have $100 in my wallet and someone takes $10 it doesn't mean I didn't get $10 stolen just because I still have $90 in my wallet.

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                                                                                                                • GatorB
                                                                                                                  The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                  • 18208
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by seeandsee
                                                                                                                  i hope they will close illegal tubes, so god help them
                                                                                                                  Anyone here that think the government gives a shit about porn or will use this law to help porn is a fool. Like anythng else money and recsource will be limited and the people that will get the help are the RIAA and the MPAA. And honestly this whole "plan" is fucking retarded. While I agre with Biden that basically downloading stuf without paying is akin to theft when it comes to everything else about this issue and it's solutions he's a bit obtuse as is the recording and tv and movie industry.

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                                                                                                                    • Marcus Aurelius
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                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                      • 14809
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by CYF
                                                                                                                      I predict great results.

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                                                                                                                        • Odin
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                                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                          • 2545
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Doesn't seem to be a lot of substance in their policy. A lot of 'we will try harder', etc unless I am mistaken. Don't see much changing soon, perhaps in a few years they will push through tougher laws - who knows.
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                                                                                                                            • u-Bob
                                                                                                                              there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                              • 33063
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                                                              Anyone here that think the government gives a shit about porn or will use this law to help porn is a fool.
                                                                                                                              sad but true.

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                                                                                                                                • Gerco
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                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                                                                  • 2052
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by flashfire
                                                                                                                                  yeah their first order of business will be to shut down illegal porn sites so the porn peddlers can get their business back
                                                                                                                                  Hmmm... Now let's think about that a second. They would LOVE to shut down a LOT of porn on the internet, and to date, have not had a lot of suggest doing it. Imagine the feather in the cap they would get from having some new laws that actually shut this sites down in the name of piracy.

                                                                                                                                  No having to fight with the obscenity laws etc. Hell, it would seem to be pretty simple also, just google tubes and or torrents and shut down the sites on the list.
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                                                                                                                                    • L-Pink
                                                                                                                                      working on my tan
                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                      • 39151
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                                                                      Just a point to make here. Just because they had record profit doesn't mean piracy didn't still have an effect. Maybe they would have had 12% profit or whatever.

                                                                                                                                      if I have $100 in my wallet and someone takes $10 it doesn't mean I didn't get $10 stolen just because I still have $90 in my wallet.
                                                                                                                                      Good example. While technology should have helped music/record companies lower costs and become more efficient it has instead allowed thieves and freeloaders the means to hijack their product.


                                                                                                                                      .

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                                                                                                                                        • czarina
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                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 10751
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          they need to fight other things before they fight piracy.

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                                                                                                                                            • Coup
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                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2010
                                                                                                                                              • 9931
                                                                                                                                              #36
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                                                                                                                                                • bronco67
                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                                  • 29026
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  It sounded more about counterfeiting physical goods, than intellectual property theft, if you go by this definition:

                                                                                                                                                  Intellectual property (IP) refers to creations of the mind: inventions, literary and artistic works, and symbols, names, images, and designs used in commerce.

                                                                                                                                                  Why would Biden be mentioning intellectual property over and over? This didn't seem to be about that at all.
                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by bronco67; 06-23-2010, 06:09 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Agent 488
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                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                                                      • 22511
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                                                                                      It sounded more about counterfeiting physical goods, than intellectual property theft, if you go by this definition:

                                                                                                                                                      Intellectual property (IP) refers to creations of the mind: inventions, literary and artistic works, and symbols, names, images, and designs used in commerce.

                                                                                                                                                      Why would Biden be mentioning intellectual property over and over? This didn't seem to be about that at all.
                                                                                                                                                      totally wrong.

                                                                                                                                                      "we will take a close look at the unique problems posed by foreign-based websites and other entities that provide access to counterfeit or pirated products
                                                                                                                                                      address unlawful activity on the internet, such as illegal downloading and illegal internet pharmacies."


                                                                                                                                                      looks they are going after counterfeit goods, internet piracy and internet pharm.

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                                                                                                                                                        • TheDoc
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                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 13827
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          This isn't about "online piracy" or digital goods... they're going to protect people that are being counterfeited against.

                                                                                                                                                          You know, actual piracy?
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                                                                                                                                                            • GatorB
                                                                                                                                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 18208
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                              This isn't about "online piracy" or digital goods... they're going to protect people that are being counterfeited against.

                                                                                                                                                              You know, actual piracy?
                                                                                                                                                              actually part of it is. Biden has made several comments about how illegal downloading is the same as stealing. And actually part of this plan is going to include a 3 strikes law so be careful what you wish for guys.

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                                                                                                                                                                • Gerco
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                                                                                                                                                                  • 2052
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                                                                                                  actually part of it is. Biden has made several comments about how illegal downloading is the same as stealing. And actually part of this plan is going to include a 3 strikes law so be careful what you wish for guys.
                                                                                                                                                                  Bring it on! I would love a 3 strike law. Do you realize how many times I have had to DMCA the same place over and over? It's ridiculous.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • sortie
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                                                                                                                                      Biden: Piracy it theft. Clean and simple.



                                                                                                                                                                      Video of press conference:
                                                                                                                                                                      http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/...property-theft

                                                                                                                                                                      Strategy plan:
                                                                                                                                                                      http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/intellectualproperty/
                                                                                                                                                                      I'm watching this video and cumming in my shorts!!

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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Coup
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                                                                                                                                                                            • sortie
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                                                                                                                                                                              • 7771
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                                              This isn't about "online piracy" or digital goods... they're going to protect people that are being counterfeited against.

                                                                                                                                                                              You know, actual piracy?
                                                                                                                                                                              You must have skipped half of the video.

                                                                                                                                                                              He directly stated going after sites with illegal downloads, calling is "theft, clean and simple".

                                                                                                                                                                              He also mentioned software piracy, music and movies.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Agent 488
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 22511
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                                                  This isn't about "online piracy" or digital goods... they're going to protect people that are being counterfeited against.

                                                                                                                                                                                  You know, actual piracy?
                                                                                                                                                                                  what does "illegal downloading" refer to genius? bootleg watches?

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • boneprone
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Dont worry guys. Its just a matter of time before this administration gets replaced by a free market loving republican.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • GatorB
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 18208
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Gerco
                                                                                                                                                                                          Bring it on! I would love a 3 strike law. Do you realize how many times I have had to DMCA the same place over and over? It's ridiculous.
                                                                                                                                                                                          The whole lack of due process part kind of bothers me. Just because they said I downloaded something doesn't mean I did. It could be an error. Could be someone hacked my wi-fi. And a 3 strike law wouldn't effect your DMCAs to tubes it would apply to customers of ISPs not websites. So you would have to go after the surfers of those websites. Good luck with that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • GatorB
                                                                                                                                                                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by boneprone
                                                                                                                                                                                              Dont worry guys. Its just a matter of time before this administration gets replaced by a free market loving republican.
                                                                                                                                                                                              So who are they going to favor, the music, TV and movie industries that wants these laws or the at&ts, Verizons, Comcasts etc etc that don't want to have any part of policing the internet especially when they have to pay for cost of the policing? Which billion $$$ corporation are the republicans going to favor?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by sortie
                                                                                                                                                                                                  You must have skipped half of the video.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  He directly stated going after sites with illegal downloads, calling is "theft, clean and simple".

                                                                                                                                                                                                  He also mentioned software piracy, music and movies.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Glad he is going to include downloads, but they're still referencing counterfeiting in relation to piracy. IE: Gov hasn't purchased any illegal software, not that they are using pirated goods. Punish other countries that allow counterfeiting of our software/movies, etc... and reduce infringing content moving into the Country - all counterfeiting based around the idea of health and safety, ie: unsafe products, auto parts, medical shit, knock off items being sold as the real deal.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  He said, traffic in pirated goods, like he said about movies being 'sold' before they're released in China.. Then 'require' companies to report counterfeiting among products they purchased. Our supply chain is free of counterfeiting products. Internet sites selling counterfeit products, pills, as actual real products.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  It's all about that type of piracy.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • mountainmiester
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 509
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sounds good on the surface doesn't it?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      When you dig into it, it also mandates significant additional testing for ALL products much like the FDA is now with drugs and we all know how great that process works.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      It also allows the government to act on violations without due process and not just for movies, music, images etc. It also covers semi conductors, car parts, appliances and such.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      It now gives the federal government the ability to say to an imported product that it is not worthy of use in the US. What is this going to do to the auto aftermarket? or the consumer electronics industry when you don't have to prove that you have a patent?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      It allows them to unilaterally bypass the patent offices processes and the courts ability to make decisions based on the criteria of the case. It's like the DMCA but for ALL invented products not just digital ones.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      In the end, this will have almost no positive effect on our industry. Also consider this, the US already has the lowest piracy rate in the world.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Last edited by mountainmiester; 06-23-2010, 03:58 PM.
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