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MrDeiz 06-16-2010 11:08 PM

CCBill you should notify us once...
 
Webmasters should be notified by email once program they are promoting changes status of:
- multiple redirects;
- account grouping;
- payout rate or type;
- trial and recurring rebills;
- partner bonus program;
- default landing page for the link;
- cookie length.

With sending what exactly was changed from previous settings (it'll be impossible to track it correct if you'll only send 'something was changed')

Please make available for webmasters into admin info on:
- account grouping status;
- cookie length;
- partner bonus program.

Please consider this.

nickutis 06-16-2010 11:13 PM

+1 from me

Brujah 06-16-2010 11:25 PM

Agree :thumbsup

mmcfadden 06-16-2010 11:32 PM

Just talk with paul, he will set u straight as right.

Funny though, I asked for months why denials were not accurate and all I got was...

MrDeiz 06-16-2010 11:35 PM

one more thing - if a program adds Epoch or Segpay billing into cascade

mmcfadden 06-16-2010 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy (Post 17254859)
one more thing - if a program adds Epoch or Segpay billing into cascade

Why do u care what cascade is involved? If any u aint getting credit unless affiliate tracking, ie nats, is in place.

There is WAY bigger issues then what is concerning u

Nasty 06-16-2010 11:42 PM

100% agree :thumbsup

MrDeiz 06-16-2010 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 17254889)
Why do u care what cascade is involved? If any u aint getting credit unless affiliate tracking, ie nats, is in place.

There is WAY bigger issues then what is concerning u

agreed
8char

andresss 06-17-2010 12:31 AM

+5 for me

Black Ops 06-17-2010 05:46 AM

Their chat support is a mess. Before I didn't know about the effect of grouping and ungrouping for affiliates. They told me it was OK to change with no problem. Later I found out it messed up affiliates.

darksoul 06-17-2010 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 17254889)
Why do u care what cascade is involved? If any u aint getting credit unless affiliate tracking, ie nats, is in place.

There is WAY bigger issues then what is concerning u

Why do you keep spreading your misinformation on the boards ?
Ccbill allows cascading with other billers and you will get credited for every sale.

FreeCJ 06-17-2010 05:56 AM

Quote:

CCBill you should notify us once...
I fully agree with this!

Kolargol 06-17-2010 06:00 AM

You do get credit for epoch sales in the cascade.

seeandsee 06-17-2010 06:06 AM

anybody form ccbill to activate my aff. account?

CCBill Paul 06-17-2010 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy (Post 17254771)
Webmasters should be notified by email once program they are promoting changes status of:
- multiple redirects;
- account grouping;
- payout rate or type;
- trial and recurring rebills;
- partner bonus program;
- default landing page for the link;
- cookie length.

With sending what exactly was changed from previous settings (it'll be impossible to track it correct if you'll only send 'something was changed')

Please make available for webmasters into admin info on:
- account grouping status;
- cookie length;
- partner bonus program.

Please consider this.

Thank you for the suggestion. We will certainly see if this is something we can add to the system.

kristin 06-17-2010 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 17254889)
Why do u care what cascade is involved? If any u aint getting credit unless affiliate tracking, ie nats, is in place.

LOL ... you have no clue what you are talking about.

rabbit 06-17-2010 09:12 AM

ccbill, please consider this!

MrDeiz 06-17-2010 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 17254889)
Why do u care what cascade is involved? If any u aint getting credit unless affiliate tracking, ie nats, is in place.

There is WAY bigger issues then what is concerning u

sorry, didn't read this post carefully. i meant i don't ask for notifying about changes in billing anymore, because it doesn't matter that much for webmaster how billings are set into ccbill cascade. webmaster gets credit for that, so np if owner decides to do some tests with them. haven't seen any issue with that yet

signupdamnit 06-17-2010 10:15 AM

I agree but a lot of these have been requested for years. I'll be pleasantly surprised if they ever appear.

Argos88 06-17-2010 10:15 AM

Totally agree, CCBILL gives us no information to affiliates.. Their system is made so Merchants and Sponsors can do a lot of things and hide that info to us affiliates.

I don't like that.

.

TheDA 06-17-2010 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 17257053)
Totally agree, CCBILL gives us no information to affiliates.. Their system is made so Merchants and Sponsors can do a lot of things and hide that info to us affiliates.

I don't like that.

.

Like what?

mmcfadden 06-17-2010 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 17256784)
LOL ... you have no clue what you are talking about.

Maybe your right. But this is what was explained to me straight from ccbill. They pass the info on to new biller and then they are done. So is this new? Only work with with epoch?

Don't lol and then not say how it is working bc I def. was told to the contrary.

mmcfadden 06-18-2010 04:44 AM

Bump for explanation on this affiliate cascading payout

Dirty Dane 06-18-2010 04:48 AM

Fully agree.

Plus this: When a program/paysite is taken offline/stop using ccbill.

TeenCat 06-18-2010 05:37 AM

now look at daizzzy ... what a good job he is doing ... but yeah, fucking russian scammers :winkwink: keep it up man! :thumbsup

tonyparra 06-18-2010 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCBill Paul (Post 17256775)
Thank you for the suggestion. We will certainly see if this is something we can add to the system.

Um that comment says it all, all of you fucktards who blast daizzzy should stfu now, these are valid suggestions.

TheDA 06-18-2010 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy (Post 17254771)
Webmasters should be notified by email once program they are promoting changes status of:
- multiple redirects;
- account grouping;
- payout rate or type;
- trial and recurring rebills;
- partner bonus program;
- default landing page for the link;
- cookie length.

With sending what exactly was changed from previous settings (it'll be impossible to track it correct if you'll only send 'something was changed')

Please make available for webmasters into admin info on:
- account grouping status;
- cookie length;
- partner bonus program.

Please consider this.

From a 'suggestions request' thread started by CCBill back in 2006.

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvette (Post 11059738)
Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11059495)
You may get some mad but it is only smart and a expected business move on ccbill's behalf to bring your system up to todays standards. Some additional affiliate tools that can be used by site owners in their affiliate areas only makes sense. So does a stats feed for the affiliates.

I to would love to see less or no java.
A move away from cookies would be great, if you can defeat any scumware affiliate code swaps even better.
Maybe an affiliate alert system in the event someone takes their site down or removes ccbill.

great suggestions/points, ASM and everybody else, i like this one especially:

Maybe an affiliate alert system in the event someone takes their site down or removes ccbill

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCBill Paul (Post 11066896)
Quote:

Originally Posted by cybermike (Post 11066362)
1. How about remove the option for the paysite owner to turn off rebills.. or have it email the affiliate if that has happened.

2. Figure out a way to give the affiliate credit when a customer buys a cross sale within the network you are promoting

1. We'll certainly consider this.


mmcfadden 06-18-2010 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul (Post 17256122)
Why do you keep spreading your misinformation on the boards ?
Ccbill allows cascading with other billers and you will get credited for every sale.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 17256784)
LOL ... you have no clue what you are talking about.

Not to keep beating this horse but o'rly?

This is my experience with cascading? I used to have my own user management. CCbill would write to my user management on approvals, cancellations, etc. I wanted to add more billers. I was told very clearly that CCbill just passes the info on and that was that. The reason is I was concerned how my user management system would be updated. So obviously my question was 1) does the other biller post back to you (ccbill) and then you (ccbill) update my user management or 2) does the other biller need to write to my user management?

So, the answer to my question was.....

We just pass the info on and are done with it.

Now, is this just not true? If it is true because affiliates are the most important part of this equation the other biller posts back to ccbill regarding the sale to give affiliate the credit but can't post back so ccbill updates my user management?

Clearly I think a LOL and I have no clue should be explained in a little more detail because I don't believe it. Maybe epoch and ccbill have an arrangement but what about the other 30 +/- billers commonly used?

mmcfadden 06-18-2010 07:29 PM

give me notification once cascading works... wtf is this. 2 people called me out and I am saying bull sheat to it... there is no affiliate credit going on unless it is new and with select biller.

my statement stands homie, you will not get credit for cascading sales unless the sponsor uses a "legit" tracking system, i.e. nats.

Tanker 06-18-2010 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 17262066)
give me notification once cascading works... wtf is this. 2 people called me out and I am saying bull sheat to it... there is no affiliate credit going on unless it is new and with select biller.

my statement stands homie, you will not get credit for cascading sales unless the sponsor uses a "legit" tracking system, i.e. nats.


I believe it passes the Affiliate ID to the cascading biller and if the sale goes through the notification is made back to CCBill to credit the affiliates account with the sale.

This is how it was recently explained to me. However it was not from a CCBill rep

mmcfadden 06-19-2010 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanker (Post 17262099)
I believe it passes the Affiliate ID to the cascading biller and if the sale goes through the notification is made back to CCBill to credit the affiliates account with the sale.

This is how it was recently explained to me. However it was not from a CCBill rep

i really like chocolate shakes!!

I would luv to hear the two peeps from the original convo...

Trax 06-19-2010 12:51 AM

i also think this is a MUST implement.

leg4 06-19-2010 01:27 AM

CCBILL hasn't updated anything for a long fucking long...

They have a Web .5 design

TheDA 06-19-2010 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 17262066)
give me notification once cascading works... wtf is this. 2 people called me out and I am saying bull sheat to it... there is no affiliate credit going on unless it is new and with select biller.

my statement stands homie, you will not get credit for cascading sales unless the sponsor uses a "legit" tracking system, i.e. nats.

As long as the sponsor is using the correct cascade cgi structure then affiliates get credit for sales with other specific billers in their cascade. That's what i was told when they started it out.

rowan 06-19-2010 06:45 AM

I'm not holding my breath either, it's been a few years since affiliates finally got to see rebill configuration info. Making that info available caught out a few programs...

Maybe in 2015

2MuchMark 06-19-2010 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Ops (Post 17256114)
Their chat support is a mess. Before I didn't know about the effect of grouping and ungrouping for affiliates. They told me it was OK to change with no problem. Later I found out it messed up affiliates.


I've never had problems with their chat support. They were always available and answered all my questions quickly.

mmcfadden 06-19-2010 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 17262786)
I've never had problems with their chat support. They were always available and answered all my questions quickly.

quickly and in-efficiently :thumbsup


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