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  • MrDeiz
    • May 2008
    • 9802

    #1

    CCBill you should notify us once...

    Webmasters should be notified by email once program they are promoting changes status of:
    - multiple redirects;
    - account grouping;
    - payout rate or type;
    - trial and recurring rebills;
    - partner bonus program;
    - default landing page for the link;
    - cookie length.

    With sending what exactly was changed from previous settings (it'll be impossible to track it correct if you'll only send 'something was changed')

    Please make available for webmasters into admin info on:
    - account grouping status;
    - cookie length;
    - partner bonus program.

    Please consider this.
    Last edited by MrDeiz; 06-16-2010, 10:22 PM. Reason: added cookies
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  • nickutis
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 719

    #2
    +1 from me

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    • Brujah
      Beer Money Baron
      • Jan 2001
      • 22157

      #3
      Agree

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      • mmcfadden
        So Fucking Banned
        • Oct 2008
        • 5099

        #4
        Just talk with paul, he will set u straight as right.

        Funny though, I asked for months why denials were not accurate and all I got was...

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        • MrDeiz
          • May 2008
          • 9802

          #5
          one more thing - if a program adds Epoch or Segpay billing into cascade
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          • mmcfadden
            So Fucking Banned
            • Oct 2008
            • 5099

            #6
            Originally posted by daizzzy
            one more thing - if a program adds Epoch or Segpay billing into cascade
            Why do u care what cascade is involved? If any u aint getting credit unless affiliate tracking, ie nats, is in place.

            There is WAY bigger issues then what is concerning u

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            • Nasty
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2002
              • 1575

              #7
              100% agree

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              • MrDeiz
                • May 2008
                • 9802

                #8
                Originally posted by mmcfadden
                Why do u care what cascade is involved? If any u aint getting credit unless affiliate tracking, ie nats, is in place.

                There is WAY bigger issues then what is concerning u
                agreed
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                • andresss
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2008
                  • 246

                  #9
                  +5 for me

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                  • Black Ops
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 292

                    #10
                    Their chat support is a mess. Before I didn't know about the effect of grouping and ungrouping for affiliates. They told me it was OK to change with no problem. Later I found out it messed up affiliates.

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                    • darksoul
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2002
                      • 4997

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mmcfadden
                      Why do u care what cascade is involved? If any u aint getting credit unless affiliate tracking, ie nats, is in place.

                      There is WAY bigger issues then what is concerning u
                      Why do you keep spreading your misinformation on the boards ?
                      Ccbill allows cascading with other billers and you will get credited for every sale.
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                      • FreeCJ
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 96

                        #12
                        CCBill you should notify us once...
                        I fully agree with this!
                        Last edited by FreeCJ; 06-17-2010, 04:59 AM.
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                        • Kolargol
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 1319

                          #13
                          You do get credit for epoch sales in the cascade.

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                          • seeandsee
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                            • Mar 2006
                            • 50945

                            #14
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                            • CCBill Paul
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 1005

                              #15
                              Originally posted by daizzzy
                              Webmasters should be notified by email once program they are promoting changes status of:
                              - multiple redirects;
                              - account grouping;
                              - payout rate or type;
                              - trial and recurring rebills;
                              - partner bonus program;
                              - default landing page for the link;
                              - cookie length.

                              With sending what exactly was changed from previous settings (it'll be impossible to track it correct if you'll only send 'something was changed')

                              Please make available for webmasters into admin info on:
                              - account grouping status;
                              - cookie length;
                              - partner bonus program.

                              Please consider this.
                              Thank you for the suggestion. We will certainly see if this is something we can add to the system.
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                              • kristin
                                GOO!
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 9768

                                #16
                                Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                Why do u care what cascade is involved? If any u aint getting credit unless affiliate tracking, ie nats, is in place.
                                LOL ... you have no clue what you are talking about.
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                                • rabbit
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 2124

                                  #17
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                                  • MrDeiz
                                    • May 2008
                                    • 9802

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                    Why do u care what cascade is involved? If any u aint getting credit unless affiliate tracking, ie nats, is in place.

                                    There is WAY bigger issues then what is concerning u
                                    sorry, didn't read this post carefully. i meant i don't ask for notifying about changes in billing anymore, because it doesn't matter that much for webmaster how billings are set into ccbill cascade. webmaster gets credit for that, so np if owner decides to do some tests with them. haven't seen any issue with that yet
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                                    • signupdamnit
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2007
                                      • 6697

                                      #19
                                      I agree but a lot of these have been requested for years. I'll be pleasantly surprised if they ever appear.

                                      You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                      • Argos88
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Sep 2009
                                        • 1732

                                        #20
                                        Totally agree, CCBILL gives us no information to affiliates.. Their system is made so Merchants and Sponsors can do a lot of things and hide that info to us affiliates.

                                        I don't like that.

                                        .

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                                        • TheDA
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2006
                                          • 4665

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Argos88
                                          Totally agree, CCBILL gives us no information to affiliates.. Their system is made so Merchants and Sponsors can do a lot of things and hide that info to us affiliates.

                                          I don't like that.

                                          .
                                          Like what?
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                                          • mmcfadden
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Oct 2008
                                            • 5099

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by kristin
                                            LOL ... you have no clue what you are talking about.
                                            Maybe your right. But this is what was explained to me straight from ccbill. They pass the info on to new biller and then they are done. So is this new? Only work with with epoch?

                                            Don't lol and then not say how it is working bc I def. was told to the contrary.

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                                            • mmcfadden
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Oct 2008
                                              • 5099

                                              #23
                                              Bump for explanation on this affiliate cascading payout

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                                              • Dirty Dane
                                                Sick Fuck
                                                • Feb 2004
                                                • 9491

                                                #24
                                                Fully agree.

                                                Plus this: When a program/paysite is taken offline/stop using ccbill.

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                                                • TeenCat
                                                  Too lazy to set a koala
                                                  • Jan 2007
                                                  • 16131

                                                  #25
                                                  now look at daizzzy ... what a good job he is doing ... but yeah, fucking russian scammers keep it up man!

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                                                  • tonyparra
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jul 2008
                                                    • 4568

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by CCBill Paul
                                                    Thank you for the suggestion. We will certainly see if this is something we can add to the system.
                                                    Um that comment says it all, all of you fucktards who blast daizzzy should stfu now, these are valid suggestions.

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                                                    • TheDA
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2006
                                                      • 4665

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by daizzzy
                                                      Webmasters should be notified by email once program they are promoting changes status of:
                                                      - multiple redirects;
                                                      - account grouping;
                                                      - payout rate or type;
                                                      - trial and recurring rebills;
                                                      - partner bonus program;
                                                      - default landing page for the link;
                                                      - cookie length.

                                                      With sending what exactly was changed from previous settings (it'll be impossible to track it correct if you'll only send 'something was changed')

                                                      Please make available for webmasters into admin info on:
                                                      - account grouping status;
                                                      - cookie length;
                                                      - partner bonus program.

                                                      Please consider this.
                                                      From a 'suggestions request' thread started by CCBill back in 2006.

                                                      Originally posted by corvette
                                                      Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                      You may get some mad but it is only smart and a expected business move on ccbill's behalf to bring your system up to todays standards. Some additional affiliate tools that can be used by site owners in their affiliate areas only makes sense. So does a stats feed for the affiliates.

                                                      I to would love to see less or no java.
                                                      A move away from cookies would be great, if you can defeat any scumware affiliate code swaps even better.
                                                      Maybe an affiliate alert system in the event someone takes their site down or removes ccbill.
                                                      great suggestions/points, ASM and everybody else, i like this one especially:

                                                      Maybe an affiliate alert system in the event someone takes their site down or removes ccbill
                                                      Originally posted by CCBill Paul
                                                      Originally posted by cybermike
                                                      1. How about remove the option for the paysite owner to turn off rebills.. or have it email the affiliate if that has happened.

                                                      2. Figure out a way to give the affiliate credit when a customer buys a cross sale within the network you are promoting
                                                      1. We'll certainly consider this.
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                                                      • mmcfadden
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Oct 2008
                                                        • 5099

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by darksoul
                                                        Why do you keep spreading your misinformation on the boards ?
                                                        Ccbill allows cascading with other billers and you will get credited for every sale.
                                                        Originally posted by kristin
                                                        LOL ... you have no clue what you are talking about.
                                                        Not to keep beating this horse but o'rly?

                                                        This is my experience with cascading? I used to have my own user management. CCbill would write to my user management on approvals, cancellations, etc. I wanted to add more billers. I was told very clearly that CCbill just passes the info on and that was that. The reason is I was concerned how my user management system would be updated. So obviously my question was 1) does the other biller post back to you (ccbill) and then you (ccbill) update my user management or 2) does the other biller need to write to my user management?

                                                        So, the answer to my question was.....

                                                        We just pass the info on and are done with it.

                                                        Now, is this just not true? If it is true because affiliates are the most important part of this equation the other biller posts back to ccbill regarding the sale to give affiliate the credit but can't post back so ccbill updates my user management?

                                                        Clearly I think a LOL and I have no clue should be explained in a little more detail because I don't believe it. Maybe epoch and ccbill have an arrangement but what about the other 30 +/- billers commonly used?

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                                                        • mmcfadden
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Oct 2008
                                                          • 5099

                                                          #29
                                                          give me notification once cascading works... wtf is this. 2 people called me out and I am saying bull sheat to it... there is no affiliate credit going on unless it is new and with select biller.

                                                          my statement stands homie, you will not get credit for cascading sales unless the sponsor uses a "legit" tracking system, i.e. nats.

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                                                          • Tanker
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2000
                                                            • 9287

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                                            give me notification once cascading works... wtf is this. 2 people called me out and I am saying bull sheat to it... there is no affiliate credit going on unless it is new and with select biller.

                                                            my statement stands homie, you will not get credit for cascading sales unless the sponsor uses a "legit" tracking system, i.e. nats.

                                                            I believe it passes the Affiliate ID to the cascading biller and if the sale goes through the notification is made back to CCBill to credit the affiliates account with the sale.

                                                            This is how it was recently explained to me. However it was not from a CCBill rep

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                                                            • mmcfadden
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Oct 2008
                                                              • 5099

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Tanker
                                                              I believe it passes the Affiliate ID to the cascading biller and if the sale goes through the notification is made back to CCBill to credit the affiliates account with the sale.

                                                              This is how it was recently explained to me. However it was not from a CCBill rep
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                                                              • Trax
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                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                • 14486

                                                                #32
                                                                i also think this is a MUST implement.

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                                                                • leg4
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                  • 4429

                                                                  #33
                                                                  CCBILL hasn't updated anything for a long fucking long...

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                                                                  • TheDA
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • May 2006
                                                                    • 4665

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                                                    give me notification once cascading works... wtf is this. 2 people called me out and I am saying bull sheat to it... there is no affiliate credit going on unless it is new and with select biller.

                                                                    my statement stands homie, you will not get credit for cascading sales unless the sponsor uses a "legit" tracking system, i.e. nats.
                                                                    As long as the sponsor is using the correct cascade cgi structure then affiliates get credit for sales with other specific billers in their cascade. That's what i was told when they started it out.
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                                                                    • rowan
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                      • 17393

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I'm not holding my breath either, it's been a few years since affiliates finally got to see rebill configuration info. Making that info available caught out a few programs...

                                                                      Maybe in 2015

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                                                                      • 2MuchMark
                                                                        Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                                        • 50975

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Black Ops
                                                                        Their chat support is a mess. Before I didn't know about the effect of grouping and ungrouping for affiliates. They told me it was OK to change with no problem. Later I found out it messed up affiliates.

                                                                        I've never had problems with their chat support. They were always available and answered all my questions quickly.

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                                                                        • mmcfadden
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Oct 2008
                                                                          • 5099

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                                                          I've never had problems with their chat support. They were always available and answered all my questions quickly.
                                                                          quickly and in-efficiently

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