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MrBottomTooth 06-09-2010 06:00 PM

Hurt Locker Piracy Suit - Is your IP on the list?
 
They released the first batch of IP addresses named in the Hurt Locker piracy law suit. If you made the mistake of downloading it, you might want to check this article. :winkwink:

http://torrentfreak.com/ip-addresses...vealed-100609/

Sounds like Time Warner is already putting up a fight about turning over identities. This many requests is going to take up way too much of their time. Time that would be better spent assisting law enforcement in combatting more serious criminals like pedos and terrorists.

Domain Diva 06-09-2010 06:36 PM

Quote " customers who are identified will receive a settlement offer of $2,500. Through this scheme, the USCG and Hurt Lockers’ makers hope to collect millions of dollars in revenue "

Wow ! $2,500 ..I thought they would be asking something like $100 .....well at least it may start to educate people that they cant just share and download all the shit they want for free.....no matter if its stolen...shared....unauthorised etc.....

I say if you wanna watch a movie ..pay to watch it ! like most people do....( maybe this may also have a ripple effect and over time help the adult industry too ! )

beerptrol 06-09-2010 06:45 PM

Can't you spoof ips? Say I don't like joe blow and I find out his ip and spoof it and downlod hurt locker. Or log into someones wifi and download Hurt Locker

NetHorse 06-09-2010 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 17232997)
Can't you spoof ips? Say I don't like joe blow and I find out his ip and spoof it and downlod hurt locker. Or log into someones wifi and download Hurt Locker

I've heard it's nearly impossible to completely block your identity using torrents.

Highest Def 06-09-2010 07:03 PM

Did they itemize the 2500 or is it just a figure pulled out of thin air?

Cyber Fucker 06-09-2010 07:06 PM

Money talks! :thumbsup

ProG 06-09-2010 07:06 PM

Haven't seen the movie or ever used a torrent.

MrBottomTooth 06-09-2010 07:07 PM

The U.S. Copyright group was using some kind of software where they would connect directly to people downloading / seeding the file to make sure they did in fact have the copyrighted material in question, and put a time stamp on it. Sounds like it is pretty fool proof, but that could just be all talk on their part. The trouble is even if a person tries to use that defense, they are going to have to spend the money to defend themselves in court. Most will just settle if it comes to that point.

As far as I know the wifi defense has never worked. I have heard of some regions talking about making having an unsecured wifi signal coming from your home a criminal offense.

kane 06-09-2010 07:20 PM

I wonder what they do in a case where a person goes somewhere like Starbucks and uses their wifi to download stuff.

MrBottomTooth 06-09-2010 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17233094)
I wonder what they do in a case where a person goes somewhere like Starbucks and uses their wifi to download stuff.

I'm guessing whoever the internet service is registered to would get a notice in the mail. Would be very tricky to litigate something like that. If something like that came up, I bet they would just skip over that IP address once they found out the owner. Although I bet it almost never happens. Who is going to sit in a starbucks long enough to download a movie torrent?

I've never used public wi-fi at one of those places. I wonder, do they have any blocks in place to prevent you accessing certain kinds of traffic?

kane 06-09-2010 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 17233102)
I'm guessing whoever the internet service is registered to would get a notice in the mail. Would be very tricky to litigate something like that. If something like that came up, I bet they would just skip over that IP address once they found out the owner. Although I bet it almost never happens. Who is going to sit in a starbucks long enough to download a movie torrent?

I've never used public wi-fi at one of those places. I wonder, do they have any blocks in place to prevent you accessing certain kinds of traffic?

I have never used it either so I have no idea how fast it is or if they have any kind of limits on what types of sites/files you can download or visit.

As for taking time to download a movie, if it is a fast connection I would bet you could download a full movie in the amount of time it took you to drink a coffee and eat a scone.

Still, I would guess you are probably correct that once they saw it was a starbucks they would just pass over it because there is no way to knowing who actually did the downloading.

fatfoo 06-09-2010 07:52 PM

That sucks.

Odin 06-09-2010 07:54 PM

Multiple computers in your household? Prove who infringed ;)

mozadek 06-09-2010 08:00 PM

I wonder if people who downloaded from megaupload, rapidshare and other similar sites are next.

MattO 06-09-2010 08:07 PM

They're not going after people who downloaded it, like sitting in a Starbucks, but people who were sharing and seeding it.

gideongallery 06-09-2010 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 17233051)
I've heard it's nearly impossible to completely block your identity using torrents.

the wifi login would work, it would provide the ip address identity of the person who owns the wifi that attacked considering that unless you have 20k military grade router all wep encryption can be cracked with free open source tools that a huge problem for these cases.

MrBottomTooth 06-09-2010 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattO (Post 17233192)
They're not going after people who downloaded it, like sitting in a Starbucks, but people who were sharing and seeding it.

But that includes anyone that was downloading it using any bittorrent client, since you are constantly uploading while you are downloading the file. I read somewhere that they didn't even care if you had 100% of the file downloaded on your computer at the time they take the timestamp and record your IP, as long as their software could prove you had a significant portion of it on your computer, you were fucked. (this was in regards to the previous Uwe Boll lawsuits they sent out)

EliteWebmaster 06-10-2010 01:52 AM

The worst part in all of this is that the people who downloaded that movie is getting screwed twice.

1. For having to watch a crap movie and losing 2 hours that they will never get back
2. $2500 fine for downloading the crappy movie.

Piracy is wrong and sooner or later you are going to get screwed :)

andrej_NDC 06-10-2010 03:01 AM

The problem is, many people who did download the movie, are outside of the US. Good luck serving those. Looks like it isn't that cheap to influence the oscar results...they should have had money prepared.

dirtymind 06-10-2010 04:36 AM

well again it sucks to live in the states. We are protected against shit like this.

Jarmusch 06-10-2010 04:46 AM

Won't this just make surfers stop using bittorrent and flock to direct download sites like rapidshare, megaupload etc?

Black Ops 06-10-2010 05:37 AM

Good. Fuck everyone who stole it.

ottopottomouse 06-10-2010 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 17233774)
Won't this just make surfers stop using bittorrent and flock to direct download sites like rapidshare, megaupload etc?

Expect so.

MrBottomTooth 06-10-2010 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 17233641)
The problem is, many people who did download the movie, are outside of the US. Good luck serving those. Looks like it isn't that cheap to influence the oscar results...they should have had money prepared.

Ya, doesn't look like they are even attempting to do that. All the ISP's listed (so far)are in the US.

seeandsee 06-10-2010 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 17233774)
Won't this just make surfers stop using bittorrent and flock to direct download sites like rapidshare, megaupload etc?

Rapidshare will skyrocket now for sure. :mad:

MrBottomTooth 06-10-2010 07:02 AM

Well so far the MPAA is not backing this effort, just some small independent movie studios have signed on to work with the US Copyright Group. If anything, pirates will just keep abreast of who has signed on to be their clients and will avoid pirating any of their movies. (so far it's just the Hurt Locker producers, and Uwe Boll with his crappy video game adaptations)

I think the MPAA is afraid of the backlash this will cause. They seen how unsuccessful the RIAA was when they started suing everyone.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 06-10-2010 08:07 AM

Rapidshare is the best $7/month I've ever spent...

iSpyCams 06-10-2010 08:10 AM

Put my IP on there, it's 192.168.0.1

crockett 06-10-2010 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 17233067)
The U.S. Copyright group was using some kind of software where they would connect directly to people downloading / seeding the file to make sure they did in fact have the copyrighted material in question, and put a time stamp on it. Sounds like it is pretty fool proof, but that could just be all talk on their part. The trouble is even if a person tries to use that defense, they are going to have to spend the money to defend themselves in court. Most will just settle if it comes to that point.

As far as I know the wifi defense has never worked. I have heard of some regions talking about making having an unsecured wifi signal coming from your home a criminal offense.

I don't see how they could "legally" check someone's computer with out consent or a warrant. The data passing from one computer to another is secure and private. I don't think they can't legally sniff or mine the data being transferred and use it in court.

I'd guess, if that is what they did, it's the producers whom helped seed to movie then simply logged the IP's they shared to. That is likely going to be a problem if that's what they did due to entrapment.

It would be like the producers handing out DVD rips of their movie on a busy street corner then trying to make cops arrest the people whom took the DVD as bootleggers.

Raf1 06-10-2010 09:23 AM

good luck collecting that money

96ukssob 06-10-2010 10:07 AM

its a scare tactic. $100 wouldnt be enough and some people would keep doing it. $2,500 does seem a bit steep, and so steep that i doubt they will get more than 20% to pay the fine.

im not an ISP expert by any means, but im pretty sure that the only way it would hold up in court is if you have a static IP address. Since most ISPs change your IP address frequently (mine changes about once a month) I dont think they log which IP address goes to which customer.

then again i could be wrong and then everyone is fucked :1orglaugh


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