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Amputate Your Head 06-07-2010 04:29 PM

Bisphenol A In Canned Food Is Killing You
 
Report: BPA Found In Most Canned Food

CHICAGO (CBS) ―

Canned foods may have dangerous levels of BPA. That's a chemical used in the can's lining. It's been linked to everything from cancer to infertility. And in the midst of this debate about whether it should be in our food packaging, comes word that it's also used in receipts from thermal printers. Dr. Prins says the BPA can get through your skin, so she doesn't touch receipts anymore. LINK 1


Study by Consumer Groups Shows Bisphenol A Is in 46 Out of 50 Cans Tested

"We should not set a place for bisphenol A at the dinner table," Elizabeth Hitchcock, a public health advocate for the U.S. Public Interest Research Group, said at a news conference on Capitol Hill. LINK 2


:2 cents: Mmmmmm... chemicals......

Amputate Your Head 06-07-2010 04:37 PM

Full credit goes to $5 Submissions and his Folic Acid Thread for jarring my memory about this BPA issue that came up last week.

BlackCrayon 06-07-2010 05:11 PM

i can only imagine what happens to a can of beans when you cook it over a fire...

craftyc 06-07-2010 05:13 PM

I cant believe we put that shit into babies bottles! This world is truely fucked!

ProG 06-07-2010 05:14 PM

Canned foods are getting worse and worse. Watch out for canned food that uses fluoride as a preservative.

dyna mo 06-07-2010 05:18 PM

yah, i do eat canned tuna, i've gone to the larger cans a few weeks ago to try and offset this issue but haven't figured out where to go from here.

InfoGuy 06-07-2010 05:25 PM

Soon, supermarkets will be offering canned tuna in light crude oil.

beerptrol 06-07-2010 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17226180)
yah, i do eat canned tuna, i've gone to the larger cans a few weeks ago to try and offset this issue but haven't figured out where to go from here.

What about the tuna that comes in pouches?

ProG 06-07-2010 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 17226194)
Soon, supermarkets will be offering canned tuna in light crude oil.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

craftyc 06-07-2010 05:29 PM

canned tuna is the worst. Mercury levels through the roof! Best to eat sardines and things. Small fish = very little mercury!

TheSenator 06-07-2010 05:33 PM

"Let the free market take care of it" - Rand Paul

dav3 06-07-2010 05:33 PM

Those Bilderberg bastards really are trying to kill us!

dyna mo 06-07-2010 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 17226204)
What about the tuna that comes in pouches?

oh yah, i always look past those. i will have to see if they offer unseasoned water-packed tuna.

thx for that!:thumbsup

dav3 06-07-2010 05:46 PM

Does this include canned beverages as well?

ProG 06-07-2010 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17226230)
oh yah, i always look past those. i will have to see if they offer unseasoned water-packed tuna.

thx for that!:thumbsup

still getting mercury in the pouches ;)

scottybuzz 06-07-2010 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17226217)
"Let the free market take care of it" - Rand Paul

free market, not capatlism.

Amputate Your Head 06-07-2010 05:57 PM

I've never heard of tuna in pouches.... is it new or have I just been under a rock? :helpme

dyna mo 06-07-2010 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProG (Post 17226276)
still getting mercury in the pouches ;)

i gotta eat something! doesn't all tuna have mercury?

admittedly, i've not done as thorough job researching canned tuna as some other foods i eat.

ProG 06-07-2010 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17226289)
I've never heard of tuna in pouches.... is it new or have I just been under a rock? :helpme

They are little 2.5 oz pouches and cost about $1.50-$3.00.

I think a regular sized can is like 5 or 6 oz

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17226291)
doesn't all tuna have mercury?

Yes. I think most fish do (not sure). The bigger the fish the more mercury is has.

$5 submissions 06-07-2010 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17226217)
"Let the free market take care of it" - Rand Paul

People will DEMAND no bisphenol A in cans. Early producers profit. Competition pushes the rest to no bisphenol A cans.

Similar to what happened with airbags. It was consumer demand that made the previously resistant auto industry change their tune quickly.

ProG 06-07-2010 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 17226294)
People will DEMAND no bisphenol A in cans. Early producers profit. Competition pushes the rest to no bisphenol A cans.

BPA has actually been well-known for a long time. It isn't going anywhere.

http://www.bpainfo.org/

Surely you can trust Fox News and The Wallstreet Journal :winkwink:

Jarmusch 06-07-2010 06:53 PM

Everything we eat, drink and do slowly kills us.

Life is one slow journey to the grave, no point in delaying the inevitable.

*opens another tuna can*

InfoGuy 06-07-2010 07:10 PM

For those concerned about exposure to dangerous chemicals, you should also look into PFOA/C8, a chemical used in the manufacture of many products including, but not limited to: non-stick pans, carpeting, furniture, household cleaners, cosmetics, clothing and food packaging.

Summary of Perfluorooctanoic Acid (PFOA) and Fluorinated Telomers (EPA.gov)

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Perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA), also known as "C8," is a synthetic chemical that does not occur naturally in the environment. It has special properties that have many important manufacturing and industrial applications. EPA has been investigating PFOA because it:

* Is very persistent in the environment
* Is found at very low levels both in the environment and in the blood of the general U.S. population
* Remains in people for a very long time
* Causes developmental and other adverse effects in laboratory animals.
Basics of Perfluorooctanoic Acid (PFOA) and Fluorinated Telomers (EPA.gov)

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In 2004, EPA's Office of Enforcement and Compliance Assurance (OECA) took administrative action against DuPont, and filed two complaints under the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA) and the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA). DuPont's violations consisted of multiple failures to report information to EPA about substantial risk of injury to human health or the environment from PFOA during a period beginning in June of 1981 through March of 2001. Section 8(e) of the TSCA requires U.S. chemical manufacturers, importers, processors and distributors to notify EPA within 30 calendar days of new, unpublished information on their chemicals that may lead to a conclusion of substantial risk to human health or to the environment. EPA alleged that DuPont did not submit to the Agency information the company had obtained regarding PFOA. Read more information on EPA's action against DuPont.

In 2005, DuPont paid $10.25 million for violating federal environmental statutes, which is the largest civil administrative penalty EPA has ever obtained. The settlement resolves DuPont's violations related to PFOA under TSCA and RCRA, which includes the eight violations alleged in the Agency's final complaint against DuPont in 2004. The settlement package required DuPont to pay $10.25 million in civil penalties and perform Supplemental Environmental Projects (SEPs) worth $6.25 million. Read more about EPA's Consent Agreement with DuPont (PDF).
It's interesting to note that DuPont got away with 20 years worth of violations for less than $20 million and that this was the largest penalty ever assessed by the EPA. Basically, chemical companies don't give a shit because they know they'll make money hand over fist and just get a slap on the wrist for violations if they get caught.

For in-depth research and analysis, read this.
PFCs: Global Contaminants: PFOA and other PFCs come from common products in every home (Environmental Working Group)

Quote:

Non-stick pans, furniture, cosmetics, household cleaners, clothing, and packaged food containers can all contain PFCs, many of which break down into PFOA in the environment or in the human body. The brand names are well-known: Teflon, Stainmaster, Scotchgard, SilverStone, and others. PFCs are also used in a vast array of industrial products and processes.

sexdatesj 06-07-2010 08:31 PM

Dr. Amp.

fatfoo 06-07-2010 08:36 PM

I read the newspaper daily and I see frequent articles about many different brands of poisonous food.

D Ghost 06-07-2010 08:40 PM

bump for awareness

amateurbfs 06-07-2010 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 17226399)
Everything we eat, drink and do slowly kills us.

Life is one slow journey to the grave, no point in delaying the inevitable.

*opens another tuna can*

A-Men brother, fuck all these worriers I am too busy keeping it real and having fun.

infowars dot com be scared, very fucking scared.

GatorB 06-07-2010 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17226180)
yah, i do eat canned tuna, i've gone to the larger cans a few weeks ago to try and offset this issue but haven't figured out where to go from here.

You know tuna contian mercury. eating more than 2 cans a week is considered not too healthy.

Spunky 06-07-2010 09:07 PM

Well I smoke and drink ,so I'm killing myself anyways :)

dyna mo 06-07-2010 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17226637)
You know tuna contian mercury. eating more than 2 cans a week is considered not too healthy.

i did know that but did not know that 2 cans is the limit, i will be studying up on this tonite/tomorrow.

:thumbsup

$5 submissions 06-07-2010 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17226637)
You know tuna contian mercury. eating more than 2 cans a week is considered not too healthy.

Good point. It seems the contents of the can are more toxic than the chemical in the can lining. Many open water fish species have heavy mercury levels.

ottopottomouse 06-08-2010 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17226289)
I've never heard of tuna in pouches.... is it new or have I just been under a rock? :helpme

under a rock :upsidedow

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4608/023100217741c.jpg

Phoenix 06-08-2010 06:00 AM

luckily i cant remember the last time i had anything from a can
unless they cheap out at a restaurant.

we eat fresh food daily

Fletch XXX 06-08-2010 06:04 AM

i dont eat canned food much at all really

Amputate Your Head 06-08-2010 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17227201)

That's cat food. :1orglaugh

CaptainHowdy 06-08-2010 08:01 AM

Life it's killing us all...

dyna mo 06-08-2010 08:04 AM

been reading up on tuna/mercury, i thought this article sums the current view up nicely
Quote:

FRIDAY, Feb. 12 (HealthDay News) -- A report last week that more than half of samples of brand-name canned tuna contained more mercury than deemed safe by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) raised concern among tuna lovers everywhere.

Yet the same report found that only 5 percent of canned tuna samples contained mercury levels that exceeded the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) standards for safety, which are less stringent than the EPA's.

The question for consumers is: What gives? And is it OK to keep eating that tuna sandwich?

"We never say, 'Don't eat tuna,'" said lead study author Shawn Gerstenberger, a professor of environmental and occupational health at the University of Nevada Las Vegas. "We are saying if you are in a high-risk group and are worried about mercury exposure, there are some easy consumer choices you can make to limit exposure."

In the study, published in the February issue of Environmental Toxicology & Chemistry, researchers tested more than 300 samples of canned tuna and found "white" tuna, or albacore, consistently had higher concentrations of mercury than "light" tuna.

Fish generally accumulate mercury in two ways: either by absorbing it through their skin or scales from the water itself, or by eating other organisms that contain mercury. Since albacore is a larger species that's higher up on the food chain than light tuna species, it generally contains more mercury, Gerstenberger explained.

According to the EPA and the FDA, high-risk groups, including pregnant women, nursing mothers, women who may become pregnant and young children, should limit their weekly tuna consumption to no more than 12 ounces (two meals) of light tuna a week, or up to 6 ounces of albacore.

While the federal agencies agree on their consumption guidelines, the FDA and the EPA differ on one significant issue: standards for how much mercury is safe for tuna to contain in the first place.

The FDA sets a standard of no more than 1.0 parts per million (ppm) of mercury for commercially caught fish. Most of the tuna sold in U.S. grocery stores is commercially caught and therefore subject to the FDA standards.

The EPA, meanwhile, as part of its jurisdiction over the nation's lakes and streams, regulates sport or recreational fishing. The EPA sets a more stringent standard of no more than 0.5 ppm of mercury.

So which standard should consumers pay attention to?

"The EPA has done a great deal of work in evaluating exposures," Gerstenberger said. "I'm not saying the FDA hasn't, but it's hard to make a case that who catches the fish should determine the standard. We feel we would rather err on the side of safety and look at the lower standard."

The National Fisheries Institute, however, took issue with that conclusion. Trace amounts of mercury found in some tuna don't outweigh the health benefits of eating it, said Gavin Gibbons, director of media relations for the National Fisheries Institute, a trade association that represents commercial fishermen, producers, restaurants and processors.

Much of the mercury found in the oceans where tuna is caught is naturally occurring. Prime sources are mineral deposits, underwater vents or volcanoes.

The EPA's main concern is about what's released into the nation's lakes and streams because of industrial or other human activity, and it has low tolerance for polluters, Gibbons said.

"Commercial and sport-caught fish are very distinct, and the level of mercury that's permitted is different," Gibbons said. "The FDA looks at the effect of mercury on the human body, while the EPA's standard is based on its regulatory power over utilities and the environment. They are not regulating for consumption reasons but for environmental health."

And, Gibbons added, "there has been no cases of mercury toxicity from normal consumption of commercial seafood in any peer-reviewed study. Nobody has ever gotten sick from the methyl mercury from the normal seafood you find in restaurants and supermarkets."

Furthermore, he said, the FDA guidelines have an uncertainty factor built in that limit mercury exposures to levels 10 times lower than the lowest levels associated with adverse effects.

"Canned tuna is safe," Gibbons said. "Consumers should trust that canned tuna continues to be a safe, healthy source of lean protein and omega-3 fatty acids."

While Gerstenberger concurred that much of the mercury found in the oceans is naturally occurring, human activity -- such as incinerating batteries and industry -- has contributed, he said.

Mercury content in fish is highly dependent on their environment, including where they are caught and the size of the fish. Gerstenberger said he would not reveal the brand names tested in the study because he expected those with the highest mercury levels would flip-flop throughout the year, depending on where their suppliers were fishing.

The health effects of mercury poisoning include central nervous system damage, hearing loss and vision problems. Though there are no specific mercury warnings for anyone outside of the high-risk groups, Gerstenberger recommended other adults also eat tuna in moderation -- although what that amount is may be anyone's guess.

"There are plenty of health benefits that have been documented from eating tuna and other fish," Gerstenberger said. "It's important for consumers to weigh all of that and make a decision."

The researchers called on federal regulators to require canned tuna producers to provide detailed information to consumers about the mercury content and to disclose tuna harvest locations.

beerptrol 06-08-2010 08:28 AM

Seems like there has always been some kind of advisory on fish/seafood, it just isn't tuna. Seems like just about everything we eat or drink is killing us.

dyna mo 06-08-2010 08:29 AM

i'll never really buy the *everything we eat kills us* mentality.


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