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jerryb 06-04-2010 11:53 AM

QuickBuck folding ?????
 
Is another one biting the dust. Stats sez 'account terminated' and accepting no new affiliates. Wonder what about the money they owe us ????????

Sure a lot of aff progies folding lately.

:mad::mad::mad:

kush 06-04-2010 11:57 AM

http://www.quickbuck.com/news.php?nats=MDowOjY0

5/12/2010 - Affiliate signups closed
"After more than 10 years in the business we regret that we are no longer accepting new affiliates. If you make your living promoting adult affiliate programs, we recommend you find a new line of work."

beemk 06-04-2010 12:01 PM

translation:

"after 10 years of relying on cross sales and shady billing tactics the regulations have changed, we can no longer support affiliates while doing honest business, sorry for the inconvenience"

Nikki_Licks 06-04-2010 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 17212587)
translation:

"after 10 years of relying on cross sales and shady billing tactics the regulations have changed, we can no longer support affiliates while doing honest business, sorry for the inconvenience"

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The Porn Nerd 06-04-2010 12:04 PM

Two things:

1. Why don't all these Programs that are closing switch to Revshare and keep their affiliates? I mean, why shut down? okay, to keep the $, right, but couldn't they just change their biz model?

2. Time to start promoting CCBill Programs (like PeabodyCash!)

Good luck to those hurt by yet another "one" biting the dust.

ProG 06-04-2010 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 17212587)
translation:

"after 10 years of relying on cross sales and shady billing tactics the regulations have changed, we can no longer support affiliates while doing honest business, sorry for the inconvenience"

bingo :winkwink:

seeandsee 06-04-2010 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 17212603)
Two things:

1. Why don't all these Programs that are closing switch to Revshare and keep their affiliates? I mean, why shut down? okay, to keep the $, right, but couldn't they just change their biz model?

2. Time to start promoting CCBill Programs (like PeabodyCash!)

Good luck to those hurt by yet another "one" biting the dust.

they dont have anything to offer, this way they will collect all link juice traffic, revshares and much more.

kane 06-04-2010 12:14 PM

Didn't they stop paying people several months ago? I know I can't get them to pay me so this comes as no surprise.

Robbie 06-04-2010 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 17212603)
Two things:

1. Why don't all these Programs that are closing switch to Revshare and keep their affiliates? I mean, why shut down? okay, to keep the $, right, but couldn't they just change their biz model?

Because they had Revshare as well. And when the new income stops and you're paying out a ton of rebills to affiliates and not making anything for yourself...then that's when you close the affiliate program.

Whether we like it or not...an affiliate program is designed to make money for the owner. When it becomes a liability and you are making less than your affiliates, then you close it down.

The Quickbuck sites were generic porn websites. That stuff is everywhere on the tubes and torrents for free. So new "real" sales were pretty much impossible to make for it. Then the squeeze starts on the x-sell model and the smartest thing that they could do is exactly what they did: Shut down the affiliate program and make money.

Sucks for us affiliates. My account is "terminated" too. But since I haven't made any sales with them in the last couple of years since torrents and tubes blew up...I had nothing to lose anyway.

cherrylula 06-04-2010 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 17212587)
translation:

"after 10 years of relying on cross sales and shady billing tactics the regulations have changed, we can no longer support affiliates while doing honest business, sorry for the inconvenience"

let me quote this one more time for the thread LOL :1orglaugh

baddog 06-04-2010 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush (Post 17212577)
If you make your living promoting adult affiliate programs, we recommend you find a new line of work."

Okay then.

xNetworx 06-04-2010 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush (Post 17212577)
http://www.quickbuck.com/news.php?nats=MDowOjY0

5/12/2010 - Affiliate signups closed
"After more than 10 years in the business we regret that we are no longer accepting new affiliates. If you make your living promoting adult affiliate programs, we recommend you find a new line of work."

http://www.cheaphumor.com/files/bugeyes.gif

The Porn Nerd 06-04-2010 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17212644)
Because they had Revshare as well. And when the new income stops and you're paying out a ton of rebills to affiliates and not making anything for yourself...then that's when you close the affiliate program.

Whether we like it or not...an affiliate program is designed to make money for the owner. When it becomes a liability and you are making less than your affiliates, then you close it down.

The Quickbuck sites were generic porn websites. That stuff is everywhere on the tubes and torrents for free. So new "real" sales were pretty much impossible to make for it. Then the squeeze starts on the x-sell model and the smartest thing that they could do is exactly what they did: Shut down the affiliate program and make money.

Sucks for us affiliates. My account is "terminated" too. But since I haven't made any sales with them in the last couple of years since torrents and tubes blew up...I had nothing to lose anyway.

I see. I would understand this were I more successful. LOL Thank you.

Sly 06-04-2010 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17212644)
Because they had Revshare as well. And when the new income stops and you're paying out a ton of rebills to affiliates and not making anything for yourself...then that's when you close the affiliate program.

Whether we like it or not...an affiliate program is designed to make money for the owner. When it becomes a liability and you are making less than your affiliates, then you close it down.

The Quickbuck sites were generic porn websites. That stuff is everywhere on the tubes and torrents for free. So new "real" sales were pretty much impossible to make for it. Then the squeeze starts on the x-sell model and the smartest thing that they could do is exactly what they did: Shut down the affiliate program and make money.

Sucks for us affiliates. My account is "terminated" too. But since I haven't made any sales with them in the last couple of years since torrents and tubes blew up...I had nothing to lose anyway.

So you are saying that they could afford to pay out the large PPS payments for years, but suddenly out of nowhere they wouldn't be able to hack a full transition over to rev-share?

That really doesn't compute. However, best of luck to whatever they go on to next.

kristin 06-04-2010 12:43 PM

All these programs should send their links to TopBucks so we can map their IDs, that way we can take over the WM payments and keep the WMs making money!

Ahh, my dream world. It's fun inside.

TheDoc 06-04-2010 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 17212603)
Two things:

1. Why don't all these Programs that are closing switch to Revshare and keep their affiliates? I mean, why shut down? okay, to keep the $, right, but couldn't they just change their biz model?

2. Time to start promoting CCBill Programs (like PeabodyCash!)

Good luck to those hurt by yet another "one" biting the dust.

Those programs don't rely on affiliates...they have less active than a small affiliate program. They purchased traffic and circle jerked the transactions through groups of friends. Once you take away the ability to cj the sales the chaining of income fails, the purchased traffic fails, and the entire network falls.

Fletch XXX 06-04-2010 12:48 PM

new program coming soon guys dont worry LOL

bdld 06-04-2010 12:52 PM

"If you make your living promoting adult affiliate programs, we recommend you find a new line of work"
that's a line of BS, they were the failures here with their cookie cutter tours, old boring content, no updates. that stuff worked in '99 but not now.

goodsites 06-04-2010 12:53 PM

Quote:

If you make your living promoting adult affiliate programs, we recommend you find a new line of work."
Lolz, Im just getting started in 2010. Anyone want the real info of who you should be promoting, start by hitting my sig, then icq 48721721

This game is just getting started, and starting to get very interesting.

The weak are folding, and the winds of change say, You need a NEW affiliate broker!

ProG 06-04-2010 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17212880)
new program coming soon guys dont worry LOL

PornGraph?

GUNNER 06-04-2010 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 17212843)
All these programs should send their links to TopBucks so we can map their IDs, that way we can take over the WM payments and keep the WMs making money!

Ahh, my dream world. It's fun inside.


hahaha, love it

Dwreck 06-04-2010 01:27 PM

quick buck and weg were champions of alternative revenue resources

spazlabz 06-04-2010 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 17212843)
Ahh, my dream world. It's fun inside.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh are there hot air balloons? You should definitely have some hot air balloons :thumbsup

Roald 06-04-2010 01:34 PM

do a simple google search and the biggest pile of shit comes up on them. chat scams, dating scams, fraud reports etc etc Ofcourse this all doesn't have to be true but hey where there is smoke .....

Relentless 06-04-2010 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwreck (Post 17213081)
quick buck and weg were champions of alternative revenue resources

'alternative revenue resources' - best euphemism... ever. :2 cents:

Jarmusch 06-04-2010 01:40 PM

http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~alc52/i...ding-shirt.jpg

SteveHardeman 06-04-2010 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17213096)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh are there hot air balloons? You should definitely have some hot air balloons :thumbsup

And clowns, don't forget the clowns.

And you can find many right here on GFY.

:-)

GTS Mark 06-04-2010 02:02 PM

Wiseman for president!!!

BlackCrayon 06-04-2010 02:07 PM

the quickbuck guys are so known for doing as much shady shit for as long as they can get away with it. they do it in mainstream, here in adult too. good riddens.

Martin 06-04-2010 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwreck (Post 17213081)
quick buck and weg were champions of alternative revenue resources

haha well put.

kristin 06-04-2010 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwreck (Post 17213081)
quick buck and weg were champions of alternative revenue resources

LOL, :thumbsup

Klen 06-04-2010 02:27 PM

Well,quickbuck was kind a weird sponsor,starting with wiseman and his chair throwing,their annoying flashing banner on gfy,open calling to fuck surfer,demanding id's from webmasters,making a parody site to gfy,etc,etc,etc...

Robbie 06-04-2010 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17212750)
So you are saying that they could afford to pay out the large PPS payments for years, but suddenly out of nowhere they wouldn't be able to hack a full transition over to rev-share?

That really doesn't compute. However, best of luck to whatever they go on to next.

Yeah, if you payout a big ass PPS but you're monetizing that join and still making a profit off of it then it's all gravy. Millions of dollars worth of gravy. But if things changed and now you're just paying out a few rebills from old traffic I would say that they see no reason to keep paying it out.

Their content wasn't gonna draw (already free everywhere) and their affiliates (including me) don't have enough traffic anymore (most traffic is now at pornhub, redtube, etc.) to make it worth it to keep paying on those rebills.

It sucks. But that's what is happening and before it's all said and done I'm sure that many of the programs with generic non-exclusive content are gonna pull the plug in the same way.

Best any of us can do as affiliates is try to ride the storm out and see what's left in the end.

Barefootsies 06-04-2010 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush (Post 17212577)
If you make your living promoting adult affiliate programs, we recommend you find a new line of work."


beerptrol 06-04-2010 02:53 PM

so will they change their name to nobuck

Mickey_ 06-04-2010 03:09 PM

I'll go ahead and rephrase

"If you make your living promoting adult affiliate programs, we recommend you find a new line of work."

to

If you make your living promoting adult affiliate programs, we recommend you start focusing on webcam affiliate programs.:pimp

candyflip 06-04-2010 03:11 PM

These were the first guys I thought of when the "closed for affiliates tomorrow - but still taking all that traffic" scheme started popping up.

geedub 06-04-2010 03:17 PM

I recommend masturbation and quality marijuana, in regular dosage.

JFK 06-04-2010 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 17212843)
All these programs should send their links to TopBucks so we can map their IDs, that way we can take over the WM payments and keep the WMs making money!

Ahh, my dream world. It's fun inside.

To DREAM.......................:thumbsup

SleazyDream 06-04-2010 03:26 PM

not so quick

Nasty 06-04-2010 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 17212587)
translation:

"after 10 years of relying on cross sales and shady billing tactics the regulations have changed, we can no longer support affiliates while doing honest business, sorry for the inconvenience"


:thumbsup pretty much how I read it

Ethersync 06-04-2010 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 17212587)
translation:

"after 10 years of relying on cross sales and shady billing tactics the regulations have changed, we can no longer support affiliates while doing honest business, sorry for the inconvenience"

Quoted For Truth. Another sketchy sponsor bites it. Good.

BV 06-04-2010 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17212644)
Because they had Revshare as well. And when the new income stops and you're paying out a ton of rebills to affiliates and not making anything for yourself...then that's when you close the affiliate program.

Whether we like it or not...an affiliate program is designed to make money for the owner. When it becomes a liability and you are making less than your affiliates, then you close it down.

The Quickbuck sites were generic porn websites. That stuff is everywhere on the tubes and torrents for free. So new "real" sales were pretty much impossible to make for it. Then the squeeze starts on the x-sell model and the smartest thing that they could do is exactly what they did: Shut down the affiliate program and make money.

Sucks for us affiliates. My account is "terminated" too. But since I haven't made any sales with them in the last couple of years since torrents and tubes blew up...I had nothing to lose anyway.

partially right

not being able to pay revshare part i don't agree with you

that's the easiest thing ever to do (ie look at all the ccbill revshare sponsors)

I think you hit the nail on the head tho about not being able to convert & retain with old sites and generic content though.

IMO it could be done but it's just not as lucrative as it once was. so not worth the time or hassle of dealing with afiliates and the costs that come with that, plus having to start shooting some new content and new niches, etc etc

I'm sure Hooper has made his porn fortune by now anyways.

LickMyBalls 06-04-2010 04:18 PM

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup


signupdamnit 06-04-2010 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush (Post 17212577)
http://www.quickbuck.com/news.php?nats=MDowOjY0

5/12/2010 - Affiliate signups closed
"After more than 10 years in the business we regret that we are no longer accepting new affiliates. If you make your living promoting adult affiliate programs, we recommend you find a new line of work."

What a bunch of dicks.

There's no excuse for not paying rebills to your affiliates (whether this is the case with them or not, I don't know, I have no business with them. I am just going by what others have insinuated.) if you are still processing them. No excuse. If you pocket the money, you're a scumbag and I hope a pissed affiliate finds your personal information and spreads it along with how you ripped them off all over the internet as well as your hometown so you can't even open up a mainstream program or a physical business without being shit on. I know there's no way I'd just roll over if someone took off with my cash in that way. :2 cents:

Robbie 06-04-2010 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 17213774)
not being able to pay revshare part i don't agree with you

I didn't say they couldn't pay the rebills. I'm saying they don't see any future in it for them, and see no reason to pay out even one more dollar from it. And no, I'm not saying it's "right". But businesses do that kind of shit all the time.

Just watching the local news here in Vegas and the Norwalk furniture store where I got some of my furniture here in Vegas...shut it's doors and left about a dozen people screwed. They showed this one woman who had ordered $2600 worth of furniture a few months ago, and they just closed up shop and kept her money.

Unfortunately, shit like that happens all the time. :(

will76 06-04-2010 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 17212587)
translation:

"after 10 years of relying on cross sales and shady billing tactics the regulations have changed, we can no longer support affiliates while doing honest business, sorry for the inconvenience"

bingo....

will76 06-04-2010 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17214137)
I didn't say they couldn't pay the rebills. I'm saying they don't see any future in it for them, and see no reason to pay out even one more dollar from it. And no, I'm not saying it's "right". But businesses do that kind of shit all the time.

Just watching the local news here in Vegas and the Norwalk furniture store where I got some of my furniture here in Vegas...shut it's doors and left about a dozen people screwed. They showed this one woman who had ordered $2600 worth of furniture a few months ago, and they just closed up shop and kept her money.

Unfortunately, shit like that happens all the time. :(

thats fraud. The women likely paid with a credit card and can charge it back. Affiliates can't do that. Any company not continuing to pay out on revshare is fraud pure and simple and should be reported to the AG in that state, if they are in the US. I would throw them under the bus personally as well if any company pulled that shit with me on revshare.

JamesK 06-04-2010 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 17213135)

nice... I just learned how to fold

crockett 06-04-2010 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17212750)
So you are saying that they could afford to pay out the large PPS payments for years, but suddenly out of nowhere they wouldn't be able to hack a full transition over to rev-share?

That really doesn't compute. However, best of luck to whatever they go on to next.

Because they didn't "rebill" they did cross sales.. No one would rebill on shit sites like those..at least not on purpose.


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