Major blow to tube sites
 

Judge: Tubes Cannot Profit from Users' Copyright Infringement

YNOT ? A U.S. District Court has awarded San Francisco, Calif.-based Titan Media more than $1.35 million in damages from a company owned by two German men. According to the judge?s ruling, Antelope Media LLC?s ?tube? site allowed users to infringe the gay adult studio?s intellectual property rights with impunity while Antelope profited from advertising and membership fees.

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Good news for the TopBucks lawsuit.

Thank God, AMEN! Now for the rest to follow.

Big thanks to Titan for standing up!

Good news, wonder how YouTube will take it?

Very nice!!!!

Wow that's a big one! These are the boyztube.com guys. Titan has been hunting them down for a lonngggg time. Also:

In order to give Titan an opportunity to collect on the summary judgment—rendered in default after the defendants failed to respond to Titan’s lawsuit—Chesney also permanently enjoined Antelope and its associates from transferring domain names and proceeds from domain operations until the judgment has been satisfied in full.

nice!

More will follow.

The silver lining behind the adult income decline was :

We quit buying shit from other people and now they feel the economic impact of
copyright infringement themselves and are waking the fuck up.

I remember talking to the attorney Gil Sperlien at Internext... he had just served the monstercocktube guys who were swimming in the pool right behind him. We've often seen or heard about someone getting served at a show... perhaps we'll see more of it?

If they had responded to the claims they had at least delayed the whole process for a few months/years.

"The judgment may turn out to be the least of the German men?s woes. Reportedly well-known and liked within the gay adult industry, Palicki and Herrmann also own and operate the AlphaMaleCash affiliate program. Prior to service of the lawsuit, the connection between AlphaMaleCash and MonsterCockTube was not common knowledge. Subsequently, several large affiliate programs cut their ties to AlphaMaleCash."

:1orglaugh

looks like they defaulted and didn't even respond? not really precedent setting.

Yes.....

So they cannot move the domain name to another company, and they cannot move the proceeds. But what about dividend payments? Paying didends to a trust and it would be extremely hard to go after those proceeds. But they'll be digging in themselves further if they do so :(

Awesome news!

exactly my thoughts...

I wouldn't be counting the chickens just yet....

seriously this is old news from a few days ago they never got any money just sepent money on lawyers and the tube changed names and kept al the traffic lol, biz as usual, nothings changed, go back to your tv sets or whatever lol :D

Did you read this ......

"also permanently enjoined Antelope and its associates from transferring domain names and proceeds from domain operations until the judgment has been satisfied in full"

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Nice. I am hopeful more besides Titan will follow

they lost because they didn't respond.

Yup:thumbsup

how are they going to collect?

sigh....wtf are you talking about? Go to that site and click on any video and watch what comes up.

yes I read that in the AVN article post like 3 days ago and also saw the post a bit down where the forwarded the domain to a new one and still are running fine. It's just the way it is glad someone fought back, but it's like getting into a fight with 200 bikers in a bar even if your an mma fighter you are gonna lose in the end :)

Great news, so far....

i bet their profits were ten times that award or more pay the damages and keep on going.

sounds like great news!!

There is NO WAY their profits were more than that. My guess is if they have to pay it will wipe out all profit they made on the site to date.

Two different cases. Two different German companies. Two different decisions.
http://www.xbiz.com/news/120907

:2 cents:

Curiosity wacked the cat but it will be denial that rips open a new asshole on the internet. :1orglaugh

I agree. Tube sites don't make money. Take it from me, I own (have owned) 3. The only one that made any money was snizzshare.com and that was only because I sold it.

This is great news.

:thumbsup

Torrents and Tubes aren't the same thing either.

Enforcement, Enforcement, Enforcement!

MAYBE these guys were doing $500k profit a year. MAYBE!

brassmonkey saying they did 10mil? Wow just shows he is completely clueless to tubes. If they did 10mil then Gaytube would be doing 50mil a year and it sure as hell isn't lol.

It's not how much you make, its how much you keep. So true.

Other day it was jumping i will go check maybe they did get them who knows didnt seem like it a judgement doesnt mean shit.

I second that MAYBE. Jay-xxx-links was doing $500k profit in it's prime and 90% of the links on that site lead to a way yo actually pay for some porn.

The whole "huge tube profit" is all smoke and mirrors. Everyone will see soon.

That must have been a major ownage. You should have taped it it would have become a gfy classic.

"Tube site allowed users to infringe the intellectual property rights" - that sucks.

the only tubes making money are the ones in top10 for "porn"

no SE traffic = you BW bills will kill you

What about *************************?

Loses money month after month. We had a decent growth spurt this month tho.

According to "some other webmaster forum" they were doing around 1.2 million/year gross.

10 mill would be impossible.

Also, they are a "tube paysite". They earn FAR more than a regular "affiliate upsell" type tubesite.

To borrow a classic line from Pulp Fiction "Don't suck each others dicks just yet"--it was a DEFAULT judgment. The value of this is that it does send a message. The question is does the message reach those who hide behind offshore servers and have no US contacts?

If they had 5000 paying monthly members, they would be taking in 100k$ on those subscriptions alone. Add some advertisement along this, and 100K$ sounds doable to me?

The "pay for access" tube model is vastly different than a free for all tube....

"summary judgment"

may be great news.... may just be posturing for an argument on grounds of improper notice or some other legal loophole. They didn't respond to the pleadings... there are many reasons a company would choose to do that and 'surrender' is only one of them. :2 cents:

Those guys will not pay a dime. Just my .02

rapidshare provides direct links not torrents so it a hell of a lot closer to tube streaming

this case has more to do with showing up vs not showing up.

although the rapidshare case would go a long way in the appeal because even in a case where the defendent doesn't show a judge doesn't have a right to ignore the relevent laws.

That sucks for tubes with copyright infringement.