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VladS 05-19-2010 06:11 PM

Ask me anything about cams
 
Ask me anything about cams. Want to put my knowledge to the test and why not help a few people better understand the cams business. Feel free to add your two cents on the subject and hopefully this thread will become informative to webmasters and up their cams sales.

fatfoo 05-19-2010 06:40 PM

In a private cam chat show, what kind of things can the surfer request from the cam female?

Stef. 05-19-2010 06:41 PM

do you know personally the girl named HotTouchX on myfreecams.com ???
shit, i love her soo much !

DateDoc 05-19-2010 06:41 PM

Who has the best affiliate program for mobile cams?

Nicky 05-19-2010 06:48 PM

How can I get Leo to let me be an affiliate of myfreecams.com? :P

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-19-2010 06:51 PM

On gay cams, do guys use dildos as well? If they do, can you see the poo on them?

benn626 05-19-2010 06:52 PM

Do you know if theres any video tutorials to coach models?

Whats the best cam to use for professional studios?

VladS 05-19-2010 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fatfoo (Post 17156517)
In a private cam chat show, what kind of things can the surfer request from the cam female?

The member can basically request anything he/she wants to see, however the model can deny the request and end the show. Usually, on the cam sites that offer free chat, the member and the model agree upon the show action before entering a private session. It also depends on the cam site's rules and that varies from site to site.

VladS 05-19-2010 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RSTGP_Stef (Post 17156520)
do you know personally the girl named HotTouchX on myfreecams.com ???
shit, i love her soo much !

No, i don't know her, sorry.

VladS 05-19-2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17156521)
Who has the best affiliate program for mobile cams?

There is SexGoesMobile and from what i've heard CamSense also started a mobile live cams project, but i must admit, my experience in mobile cams is close to zero at this moment.

VladS 05-19-2010 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 17156532)
How can I get Leo to let me be an affiliate of myfreecams.com? :P

I've tried to get in touch with him regarding the same thing, but i've had no success in getting his contact info. I've been told he'll contact you if he wants your traffic, lol.

MrBottomTooth 05-19-2010 07:01 PM

Can chatroulette traffic be converted in your experience? Or are they as bad of freeloaders as most tube site visitors?

VladS 05-19-2010 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17156542)
On gay cams, do guys use dildos as well? If they do, can you see the poo on them?

It depends on the model. In private sessions, the models can do almost anything they want. If you want to see that type of action, you can ask the model and see if the model agrees on that.

VladS 05-19-2010 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by benn626 (Post 17156548)
Do you know if theres any video tutorials to coach models?

Whats the best cam to use for professional studios?

I don't know of any video tutorials to coach the models. The best cam to use for professional studios is Sony Evi.

VladS 05-19-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 17156580)
Can chatroulette traffic be converted in your experience? Or are they as bad of freeloaders as most tube site visitors?

I've not tried that so talking theoretical only. The traffic is targeted, they can be converted, but i would say on cheap cam sites such as LiveJasmin.

MoreMagic 05-20-2010 12:39 AM

No they don't convert, just stay with the tubs. :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 17156580)
Can chatroulette traffic be converted in your experience? Or are they as bad of freeloaders as most tube site visitors?


SomeCreep 05-20-2010 12:54 AM

How come "Cams" spelled backwards spells "Smac?"

NinjaSteve 05-20-2010 12:56 AM

How should I be promoting right now? I'm asking this for you and people with experience, not just a bunch of ref codes that I won't sign up for.

grumpy 05-20-2010 01:43 AM

how can i reverse the image on my cam?

CunningStunt 05-20-2010 02:39 AM

How come I can send 50,000 adult surfers to 5 different sponsors to test them out, and make zero sales, whereas the same type of traffic makes several thousand $ when sent to a dating sponsor?

I've never been able to convert traffic to any cams program. Dating and porn no problem at all, cams, zilch.

LoveSandra 05-20-2010 05:31 AM

show pussy

mopek1 05-20-2010 05:40 AM

1- What are the most common ways to get 'cam traffic' ?

Looking at cunning stunt's comment above it seems that only cam traffic converts for cams whereas general adult traffic can be used for porn, toys, dating ....

2- What are the most common cam search terms that surfers use who are looking for paid chat -

Thanks

CarlosTheGaucho 05-20-2010 06:12 AM

What would you estimate is currently the average gross revenue per sign up on cams?

What percentage of cam members use multiple cam sites?

What is the fluctuation of the models between different cam sites?

What is the average free registration to credit purchaser conversion and how is it stimulated from the side of cam sites?

VladS 05-20-2010 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 17157232)
How come "Cams" spelled backwards spells "Smac?"

The same way as SomeCreep spelled backwards spells "Peercemos".

VladS 05-20-2010 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 17157238)
How should I be promoting right now? I'm asking this for you and people with experience, not just a bunch of ref codes that I won't sign up for.

Add targeted SE cams traffic, good content texts and sales texts, model bios and quality cam sites, mix together.

You need to test, test and again test everything out. You need to find the right cam site for your type of traffic. You need to know the product you're selling in order to be able to properly sell it. Ask the cams sponsor for a review account, go on and test the cam site, learn it, see how it works, everything from A to Z. That'll help you identify what type of traffic will perform better on the respective cam site and eventually bring you more sales.

VladS 05-20-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 17157300)
how can i reverse the image on my cam?

You can do that via SplitCam.

The Dawg 05-20-2010 09:10 AM

Does clickcash still convert? I've noticed that their promo materials are still pretty ordinary compared to others.

VladS 05-20-2010 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt (Post 17157347)
How come I can send 50,000 adult surfers to 5 different sponsors to test them out, and make zero sales, whereas the same type of traffic makes several thousand $ when sent to a dating sponsor?

I've never been able to convert traffic to any cams program. Dating and porn no problem at all, cams, zilch.

I doubt those 50,000 adult surfers make zero sales on cams and thousand dollars on dating sites, but i understand what you're saying. The thing is that cams is not for everyone. Adult video chat is expensive. Not everyone affords to pay from $0.99+ per minute to use a live cam site, while with dating and paysites, it's much cheaper for the average surfer.

It also depends on what type of traffic you're sending to the sponsor. For example, 50,000 adult surfers targeted to cams will bring some nice numbers if sent to cam sites, while if you send the same traffic to paysites it will not convert so well. It really depends on the type of traffic, that's the key to selling cams. If you have general traffic, you need to educate people into knowing what cams is all about. That's why i always say everyone should know the product very, very well before trying to sell it.

VladS 05-20-2010 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 17157627)
1- What are the most common ways to get 'cam traffic' ?

Looking at cunning stunt's comment above it seems that only cam traffic converts for cams whereas general adult traffic can be used for porn, toys, dating ....

2- What are the most common cam search terms that surfers use who are looking for paid chat -

Thanks

The most common ways to get cam traffic are the search engines. That's the best traffic for cams. Targeted SE cams traffic. Of course, there's lots of other ways, on general adult sites, niched adult sites, whatever, place a banner/button/link that leads to a cams page, buy traffic and apply the same thing, basically filter your traffic and you'll get some targeted cams traffic. There's lots of ways to get cam traffic, but SE targeted cams traffic is the key in selling cams.

The most common cam search terms that surfers use when searching for paid chat are: adult video chat, live sex cams, live sex chat, etc... It really depends.

Bomberoso 05-20-2010 09:47 AM

Where can i find studios that let me rent out cam models for a site?

VladS 05-20-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 17157684)
What would you estimate is currently the average gross revenue per sign up on cams?

What percentage of cam members use multiple cam sites?

What is the fluctuation of the models between different cam sites?

What is the average free registration to credit purchaser conversion and how is it stimulated from the side of cam sites?

You're asking for exact numbers which i don't have, you'd have to ask a cam site owner/representative for an accurate answer on that. Without having the exact numbers, i would have to guess the answer to your questions, however, i would say that the average cam customer makes anywhere from 1 to 100 sales per year, from there it depends on the cam site prices per minute, etc...

The savvy cam members try all of the cam sites that are worth trying and keep buying from those that offer the best features at the cheapest price. Something like this goes for the models also. They try all of the cam sites worth trying and remain on those that work best for them.

Once a surfer signs up for a free registration and gets the taste, as long as the surfer has the money to spend on cam sites, it is most likely that the surfer will purchase credit. The cam sites offer free minutes, special discounts, etc... in order to stimulate the surfers to purchase credit. Take Flirt4Free's 2 free minutes offer for example. The surfers register free for an account and enter the credit card details to verify their age and receive unlimited free chat access and 2 minutes of private time. Once the surfers want to purchase credit, they already have entered the credit card details and only have now to click a few buttons to purchase credit. It's a very clever upsell method that indeed brings results.

VladS 05-20-2010 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dawg (Post 17158160)
Does clickcash still convert? I've noticed that their promo materials are still pretty ordinary compared to others.

Yes, they still convert. You can use this method as on lustywebcams [dot] com to promote ClickCash.

It really matters what the cam site has to offer to the surfer, and not what promo tools they offer to affiliates in order to promote their site.

mmcfadden 05-20-2010 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CunningStunt (Post 17157347)
How come I can send 50,000 adult surfers to 5 different sponsors to test them out, and make zero sales, whereas the same type of traffic makes several thousand $ when sent to a dating sponsor?

I've never been able to convert traffic to any cams program. Dating and porn no problem at all, cams, zilch.

I have the opposite, can convert the cams but not the dating. I'll share mine if you share yours

VladS 05-20-2010 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bomberoso (Post 17158313)
Where can i find studios that let me rent out cam models for a site?

What do you need models for? I've asked the same thing in the thread you started about this.

mmcfadden 05-20-2010 10:12 AM

How can I get my hands on a decent cam script which doesn't cost 10's of thousands? myfreecams type of script would be stellar

Bomberoso 05-20-2010 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gsx-R (Post 17158468)
What do you need models for? I've asked the same thing in the thread you started about this.

Need cam girls, to sit on our site instead of hotcamsxxx.com or w/e, im sure there's studios that have these girls and can send them anywhere but need to find em

VladS 05-20-2010 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bomberoso (Post 17158477)
Need cam girls, to sit on our site instead of hotcamsxxx.com or w/e, im sure there's studios that have these girls and can send them anywhere but need to find em

I still don't understand. You need girls to do what exactly? Video chat with your site's members? Be more specific, "i need models to do this and that and i can pay this and that".

VladS 05-20-2010 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 17158469)
How can I get my hands on a decent cam script which doesn't cost 10's of thousands? myfreecams type of script would be stellar

I've been searching myself for a decent cam script and i didn't find any. A custom solution might be the key here.

Bomberoso 05-20-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gsx-R (Post 17158486)
I still don't understand. You need girls to do what exactly? Video chat with your site's members? Be more specific, "i need models to do this and that and i can pay this and that".

Hmm, pretend my site is cams.com, a cam site, that needs girls to be cam girls
It'll be a webcam site, they go into prvt for $x.xx a minute
I can pay either a % of their profits or pay per girl, or however the provider wants

VladS 05-20-2010 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bomberoso (Post 17158522)
Hmm, pretend my site is cams.com, a cam site, that needs girls to be cam girls
It'll be a webcam site, they go into prvt for $x.xx a minute
I can pay either a % of their profits or pay per girl, or however the provider wants

I understand. Do you have the traffic, billing, site, etc... everything ready? No model will stay there without activity.

Bomberoso 05-20-2010 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gsx-R (Post 17158526)
I understand. Do you have the traffic, billing, site, etc... everything ready? No model will stay there without activity.

Yes that can all be arranged but I'd like pricing and model suppliers first
Never doing this before I need more information on how to get what i need

VladS 05-20-2010 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bomberoso (Post 17158530)
Yes that can all be arranged but I'd like pricing and model suppliers first
Never doing this before I need more information on how to get what i need

Here's a cam studio to get in touch with and further discuss your project.

YM: pussycat_studio
Email: pussycat_studio [at] yahoo [dot] com

Bomberoso 05-20-2010 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gsx-R (Post 17158592)
Here's a cam studio to get in touch with and further discuss your project.

YM: pussycat_studio
Email: pussycat_studio [at] yahoo [dot] com

Thanks, if you have anymore please lmk

mopek1 05-20-2010 05:31 PM

Hi Gsx-R,

Thank you very much for letting us pick your brain. There are many negative posts on gfy but one thread like this is worth 100 bad ones and why I like and still visit the forum.

I had forgotten about the price of cams and that yes, it is expensive for the average surfer. many surfers are hesitant to pay a mere $19.99 for a porn or dating site so $2/min is steep. It narrows down the pool of qualified surfers quite a bit in the adult online world.

It was also good you mentioned knowing the product and educating your surfers on it too. I know about cams but don't have the depth of understanding with it that I do with porn and dating and I think it does make a difference in terms of my ability to sell it.

Thanks again. :)

craftyc 05-20-2010 05:55 PM

Myfreecams.com took like 3 minutes to load on my puter.. by then I have jerked off twice to videos on redtube! Yes Yes I dont last long!

StrokeKing 05-20-2010 05:58 PM

which is better, cams or tubesite?

VladS 05-21-2010 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 17160000)
Hi Gsx-R,

Thank you very much for letting us pick your brain. There are many negative posts on gfy but one thread like this is worth 100 bad ones and why I like and still visit the forum.

I had forgotten about the price of cams and that yes, it is expensive for the average surfer. many surfers are hesitant to pay a mere $19.99 for a porn or dating site so $2/min is steep. It narrows down the pool of qualified surfers quite a bit in the adult online world.

It was also good you mentioned knowing the product and educating your surfers on it too. I know about cams but don't have the depth of understanding with it that I do with porn and dating and I think it does make a difference in terms of my ability to sell it.

Thanks again. :)

You welcome, glad it helped.

VladS 05-21-2010 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by StrokeKing (Post 17160040)
which is better, cams or tubesite?

Better for what?

ArsewithClass 05-21-2010 05:48 AM

We use splitcam yet still it does not seem to work. We have logged into camconomy, freecams & adultwork. The first one to be opened gives full perfect crystal clear picture from a 3chip camera plugged in dv. The other 2 pages show no picture.... can you help bro?

Thanks.

VladS 05-21-2010 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 17161076)
We use splitcam yet still it does not seem to work. We have logged into camconomy, freecams & adultwork. The first one to be opened gives full perfect crystal clear picture from a 3chip camera plugged in dv. The other 2 pages show no picture.... can you help bro?

Thanks.

Make sure to select SplitCam as the device source on the other sites.


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