Jules jordan
 

You know what I hate and really burns me are people who are successful but still rip people off. That is why Jules Jordan name is here.

I had someone do some work for me and we were just talking. I found out he does some work in the Adult biz. He told me Jules just moved into a new building and did some work. Well, he never got paid for the work over a month. He did get paid on the spot for working on his brand new $8,000,000 home in Malibu.

I now alot of vendors that he uses and one of them I know personally. Last time I've talked to him Jules wouldn't pay down his $100,000+ bill he left.

I'm all for making money and terms but JULES has no honor. You just bought aN EIGHT MILLION DOLLAR HOME!!!! JULES IS A FUCKING MORON. Some people need to make a living especially the small people that don't own a MALIBU home.

I own movies and a small time person but all my bills are paid. Not one vendor has not been paid in full and on the spot. On top of it all I don't even make any money.

I don't encourage tube sites or bootleg of movies but since JULES JORDAN IS A CROOK HIMSELF and OWNS A EIGHT MILLION DOLLAR HOME IN MALIBU AND TWO MORE MANSION HOUSE IN THE VALLEY, people should steal his movies. BOOTLEG ALL JULES JORDAN MOVIES! He deserves what he gets and maybe he will understand how all of us feel when we are struggling to make a living.

how much is his house worth?

i know he's been very successful with his studio but jesus, an 8 million dollar home in Malibu and two other million dollar plus homes? didn't really think it was possible to accumulate that much wealth in the gonzo DVD biz.

maybe he came from some money? i forget what his real name is but i remember it being pretty prep school sounding.

LOL! You believe that Jules Jordan just bought an $8 Million dollar home!

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SMOKING!!!

He produces DVD. The top DVD's in the world only move a few thousand pieces in this day and age of internet (and now piracy)

I and most every other porn producer online makes 10 x the money that DVD does.

If someone told you he just bought an eight million dollar home, then you are marking out for b.s. publicity.

Hell, in case you haven't noticed...prices for houses (and mansions) have dropped below the ground. If you find a home on the market for eight million dollars...it would probably been a 20 million dollar mansion just 2 years ago.

This post is ridiculous.

Wait a minute...joined May 2010

Okay, this is probably Jules Jordan himself posting this to whip up some publicity for himself.

Well played...

tube revenge?

Cool, it's JJ himself?! Then perhaps I should give his advice to put all of his DVD movies on tube site to some chinese neighbours of mine :1orglaugh

Welcome aboard...

Maybe he's a crook, but damn that boy knows how to shoot some motherfuckin porn.

me thinks he is referring to the Crumpler MD0806A 8 Million Dollar Home Brown/Orange Digital SLR Camera 13in. Laptop Shoulder Bag.

i have one too, highly recommended!:thumbsup

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/i...345/606439.jpg

You guys forget he's been in the biz a long time, what since 2002 when DVDs were making $$$ and he won tons of awards, his shit sold very very well for many years.

Anyone thinking Jules can't afford an 8 million dollar home is on crack. He's been in the biz since the days of $100k+ returns on 1 movie. I was there and saw it, that's why Evil Angel was the holy grail for DVD gonzo directors. Nowadays money isn't that great but Jules and Evil have it all locked up. It's growing smaller everyday so I'm sure the money won't flow like before for much longer.

hell, he was making $100k/month working for stagliano back in the day.

Top producers like Jules still bring in a ton of money selling DVDs. They do not just sell a couple thousand, they still sell thousands and at a premium. Not to mention he owns the company which is selling tens of thousands of movies every month not including foreign deals, internet, broadcast, vod or any other avenue he has. Jules is paid. :2 cents:

Look up the facts and see for yourself.

If dvds are so bad, why is that Jules starting a new company?

I just want what he deserves. One crook to another. Tube his videos and see how he likes it.

Yeah? Well he isn't anywhere near the top guy as far as DVD sales go. And NO there aren't enough brick and mortar dvd sales in the world to buy an $8 Million dollar home.

DVD sales have sucked since the late 1990's. And even then you didn't buy an $8 million dollar home. lol

Not saying Jules Jordan doesn't kick ass at what he does. I'm just saying that more people see the average web girl in a day online than all the DVD porn sales for the month combined.

And don't forget... the MINUTE that the DVD hits the store, it gets ripped and put online for free. No protection against that. I don't know what business some of you are in...but it doesn't sound like the porn biz to me. :2 cents:

i'd wager that his online revenues surpass his DVD sales

I smell bullshit. $8 million? If so, good for him tho.

By far I'm sure...BUT you're discounting the fact that piracy has decimated online revenue as well. His shit is everywhere for free. Why on earth would people pay for it? A few years ago before mass piracy, yes. But now? I'm sure he's making decent money. I'll bet that I and many others make a lot more.

Nothing slips past Robbie :)
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it's hard to say how many people still pay for his vids. i would say that if he has kept his financial ducks in a row, he could certainly have an $8m home.

if he was clearing $100k/month working for stagliano, launched his assworship operation and worked it hard, he could of been pulling in several hundred grand a month for a few years eh.

Robbie, like most of the people in this thread who don't go back far enough to before the internet porn business existed, you really have no clue what you are talking about on this issue. I worked for the biggest distributor of VHS/DVD/novelties for many years in the 1990s and still talk to my colleagues in the offline porn biz. There are still fortunes being made by some. DVD sales have not sucked since the late 1990's- they were at their peak then and continued strong for many, many years after that. DVD sales really didn't slow down overall until a few years ago and even then that only applies to the aggregate. The top studios nowadays are essentially multimedia companies and still do very well between DVD and VOD and broadcast and international and their web site partnerships.

I can tell you this...I made 90K a month for most of this last decade. No way in hell I could afford an $8 million dollar home. I have a 5 grand a month mortgage on my current home and it sucks. lol

And I never even heard of him until the last few years. Was he around in the 1990's? And even if he tried to put his financial ducks in a row as you said...I can tell you that I lost a ton of money with my SEP plan stock investments. Just making a million dollars a year for a decade doesn't mean you HAVE 10 million dollars.

It means you paid a LOT of taxes. lol

And also getting a jumbo loan is not easy. Believe me...and getting a jumbo loan for $8 million dollars is gonna be out of reach of a guy with camcorder shooting porn.

I'm sure he has a very nice home that would make a lot of folks envious. But EIGHT MILLION? That's like Jack Nicholson or Brad Pitt or George Clooney rich type territory

Jim, I do know what Frank at IVD flat out told me about numbers a couple of years ago. Maybe you know more than he does...but I doubt it.

Jim, i could very well be wrong, as i stated i have no insider info on the jordan business. but it's wrong of you to assume time in the industry is = to gfy join date.

i understand financing.

but who really knows jordan's business financials. i do know that amongst the large program owners i work with, several own more than one $2-3m home.

met that dude once...not impressed...looked like a wanna be hood rat and acted like a douche

And No way he has an 8mil house.

I'll give him this much...he got a bunch of us discussing how rich he may or may not be. heh-heh

So he's not only real good at what he does...but he wins my respect just for making us all comment on whether or not he's the Jed Clampett of pornography.

Let me see Robbie made 90k a month for a decade but can't pay for a mortgage. Something doesn't sound right here.

You've been stuck in the last decade. Do you know what an Ipod is???? Are you still stuck on cassette? Can you list me who are the biggest gonzo company or you still stuck with VCA and Caballero?

I think everyone is missing the post. The guy is not paying his bills. He acts big and has a big ego. Even he made a million dollars the guy is a crook. I'm glad his stuff is getting ripped off. He deserves it.

Robbie, you may have had a conversation with an individual in the know one time who told you what he felt like telling you. That insight alone is worth almost nothing. I worked very closely with the same person at Pleasure Productions & IVD for most of the 1990s. I had a front row seat to see just about everything going on in the offline porn biz including all the studios and how many pieces they were shipping. Of course things have changed a lot since then. But then again, a lot of the most successful players have diversified into a lot of other areas in adult or even mainstream. It's not my place to go into details about this company or that studio. I am just saying you don't know enough about it to start speculating who can afford what. It's not unlike the internet porn biz. There are a handful of multi-millionaires with hugely successful companies and a hundreds more also rans who do okay and a lot more who are barely scraping by.

right - and i know some pretty rich people in this biz and outside the biz and they do own $2-3M homes but not 8 million dollar ones.

you know who buys an 8 million dollar home? Superstar athletes, top TV and film actors, top music stars etc - people who make 10 million a year and up. And even in the best days of the adult DVD biz Jules Jordan wasn't making close to that kind of money - before or after taxes.

who knows, maybe he's made some great real estate or stock investments.

His stuff made a ton of money for other people on the Net, in the heyday of the movie AVS systems, AdultBouncer and DeluxePass, Jules Jordan's stuff was ripped off huge. He sued Adult Bouncer and settled with them. Both AB and DP were huge thieves, as bad or maybe worse than Pornhub et all They used the same excuse the tube sites did.

LOL! What doesn't sound right? I never said I "can't pay my mortgage" I said it sucks. :1orglaugh

And what's wrong with cassettes? They sound a little better than my 8-track tapes.

Dude, get real. DVD brick and mortar sales are 1/20th of what they once were.

And Jim, I was in the middle of doing business with Frank when we went over numbers. Not hearsay, but real numbers.

Yes, I agree that there was a time when brick and mortar sales made a lot of folks rich. But that hasn't been the case in many years. And Mutt is right...no way this guy has an eight million dollar home that he is paying for with money made on DVD sales or even distribution on the net.

What's a top selling DVD pushing numbers wise these days? 15,000 units? 30,000 units? There just isn't enough money there to afford the same kind of homes that an NBA star player or a George Clooney stature movie star can do.

Even "back in the day" that would be a little too much. It's difficult to get a jumbo loan. They probe your asshole inside and out before they do that. It's not like getting a loan for a "normal" home. Once you go over a certain dollar amount the loan becomes "jumbo"

And all of us who have one know what you have to show to be able to get it, and what the limitations are. I had to have the kind of income I have monthly to get the dollar amount on the jumbo loan I have.

To get one that is eight times the one I have would have required me to have about eight times the income. I just don't believe that JJ is making several hundred thousand dollars a month PROFIT that he pays himself. That's insane.

And if he DOES make that much money...then I would like to apologize to you Mr. Jordan and offer my services.

I would have to agree with Jim. We don't know how and what he does with his money. I know Chris that use to run Anabolic made outside investment that is lucrative for him.

I don't even know there were so many haters in here. One punk ass guy that can buy something like that would get people in a uproar. I hate the dude. Nobody should endorse him or his product.

i commented that several own moar than 1 $2-3m home. while i do understand that an $8m home is a massively huge acquisition, it's ~value is = several $2-3m homes. thus my comment.

I'm not a hater. I don't know Jules Jordan. I just know what the type of income that is required to get an loan from a bank for 8 million dollars. And I know what investments and real estate have done the last two years as well. So saying he invested well doesn't hold a lot of water with me either.

I'm pretty sure Jules Jordan makes a great living. And since none of us know who you are or what you do...calling him a "punk ass guy" makes YOU the hater. Not trying to fight with you, but you already insulted me earlier and I'm just saying. Maybe if your story said million dollar home I could go with that. EIGHT million? Your story loses it's credibility. But of course reading your original post you did say that a friend of yours told you the story. So you don't have any knowledge of it first hand. This is just a story being passed on.

I totally respect you and love your posts dude, but you are way off about Jules jordan. This guy made stupid money and still makes a serious killing. This guy is the industry %100 standard in porn. He is what people strive to be when you talk success in DVD and porn in general.



Quoted for the truth. Lives in the Valley and also really knows his shit. Knows what he is talking about 1st hand, and not through word of mouth though a message board.:thumbsup



Dont know you, but you are on point and must have been around for a while and live in the valley.:thumbsup


Jim is a very knowledgeable person anything porn. If Jim says something, he is generally on point. He has been around since early 90s and has seen it all. I respect the guy and give weight to anything he says. I have met the guy and hung out with him and phone him when i have any questions that people around here cant answer.



In conclusion;

I dont know Jules Jordan and have never met the guy, but i have close friends that distribute though him and people that have worked with him and for him. One thing they all have in common is that he knows his shit, works very hard, he is well respected and everyone try's to measure up to the Jules Jordan standard and success. I never hate Its a wasted effort. I just see what others have accomplished and use that as a standard i strive to surpass. And it seems that Jules Jordan is that standard:2 cents:

I agree with you Dave. He's a great porn producer.

I just am very skeptical of the original poster's assertion that:
First off, I don't know him and have no idea about the "crook" part.

But I do know money, and having just went through a jumbo loan process in 2008 I know how MUCH money you would have to have as INCOME (salary) to qualify for a jumbo loan. Which means paying yourself a salary (or if you work for someone else being paid a salary). And I pay myself a damn big salary. I needed every bit of it to qualify for the home I'm in now. Can't see that Jules Jordan is paying himself a salary that is 8 times what I pay myself in order to qualify for this purported mansion. (not to mention the OTHER two "mansions" that the original poster claims)

I DO know how much the DVD industry has been decimated the last few years. It's been hit harder than the online guys by piracy.

And I'm still not saying that JJ or some others aren't making a nice living. I'm saying that they are NOT able to pay themselves a salary of several hundred thousand dollars PER MONTH in order to be able to qualify for a jumbo loan of 8 million dollars.

Unless you are a star quarterback in the NFL or a multi million dollar basketball player or a famous Hollywood star or Mick Jagger...you just aren't pulling THAT kind of money.

Good point, but i do think he has that kind of money. Do i think that the poster is credible? nope! Do i think Jules has a house that costs 8mill? Dont know, but i can find out where he lives with one phone call and then i can Zillow.com that shit and find out what any property costs. Do I care ? Not in the slightest.:2 cents:



Hey Robbie will you be at the summer show this year? Look forward to having a beer with you.:thumbsup

Which summer show? I'm gonna be at the XBiz/XFanz show here in Vegas. Probably not gonna go down to Miami as it coincides with my youngest daughters birthday.

Its a fun thread when Frank K is being mentioned. Any other name drops like Eddie W or Yocko?


Evil Angel / Red Light / Vivid products are in every porn store and on online retail outlet. Ones that carrying premium (non catalog) product anyways. No idea now the wholesale/distributor prices but they're probably still the highest. It's automatic. Those would be the last titles to be cut from distributors order forms.


Figure back in the heyday Jules was selling a ton through Evil Angel. With his new company i'm sure there's less pieces moved but less people to split with. Jules product had a well deserved golden reputation with retails and fans.


If I remember right Jules posts here, so he can weigh in if he want. Especially on the main issue since we're all off topic lol. If it helps with figuring numbers he mentioned in a posting before his best selling title sold 25,000 pieces or something of that nature.

Where did you work in the adult video business back in the day, Ghost? Maybe only two or three other people reading know those old schoolers. :2 cents:

Which is a lot in this time period of the last 15 years. But still not enough to be paying yourself a six figure salary per month to finance an 8 million dollar jumbo loan.

It sounds to me like the original poster is just throwing numbers up like that to get people to be jealous of the man and hate him for some reason. Anonymous poster saying that some guy did "some work" and didn't get paid and JJ must be scum because he's so filthy rich and lives in an EIGHT MILLION dollar mansion.

I just question how the OP would know how much the man's house cost. Or maybe he just sees a nice big house and is comparing it to what he knows? I don't know.

Sounds like a guy with an axe to grind who has no idea about money and is just throwing numbers around? If I'm wrong, I apologize to you pacrim, but I can only go by what you posted. And what you posted is:
I don't see any firsthand proof that any of that happened or that you know the price a person may have paid for their home. The way you described it, it sounded like a construction guy or a plumber or electrician gave you this info. And I highly doubt that person has a clue what JJ paid for his home. :)

no shit eh. after robbie mentioned him, i was going to share my story re: business dealings with koresky but decided against it.

he's certainly not a shiny beacon representing all the good things about this business.

He's a legend.

I didnt think this thread would still be alive today LOL
good banter without too much name calling like usual

Maybe he's a drug lord on the side. Didn't think about that possibility, did ya? ;)

This is none of my business but- Jules is a friend of mine. his house was not 8 million- it was less than that- but it was still a lot of money. I don't know exactly how much it was but I would say it was closer to 4. He shoots most of his movies in his house and rents it out as a location to other people often. So there is a purpose for it- it's not just to show off or throw away money. Most of the houses that double as a location in LA are about that much money.

he is a good business man- he has made a lot of money over the years, and I have known plenty of people who have worked for him over the years and he hasn't ripped any of them off. He is one of the few people still making money in the DVD gonzo market- and he distributes other peoples stuff, some of which are very close friends of mine... who are all very happy with their checks every month.

regardless of what your feelings are on him- no one should encourage anyone else to put someones library on a tube site. it just hurts all of us.