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BlackRain 12-29-2002 09:53 AM

How Much for Dedicated?
 
I am fed up with virtual hosting. I keep getting sucky hosts. I am now currently paying $60 month for 100gb. However, there is no control panel, I can't send mail only receive it, and I have sent email to support to fix something since Friday without any response.

I am now finally ready to go to a dedicated host. I just checked out rackshaq and Infinology. However, I don't know alot about dedicated hosts.

I am an expert on virtual hosting though. Here is what I am looking for:

Unique IP capable
400 g bandwidth
40-80 g storage
reliable bandwidth connections (i.e. verio etc )
Control panel
and the freaking capability to send an email from my server.

Other webmasters have told me to look for 1 g RAM, at least a celeron 1.3 to pentium 4 2.0 range.

Suggestions welcomed and appreciated.

Undutchable 12-29-2002 09:59 AM

You should give racksale a try, high quality hosting for the lowest prices in their league...

Have a look at this deal:

Fast dedicated 1.7 celeron server, 1 gigabyte of RAM and 500gigs of transfer monthly for only $250,-

This includes Cpanel, verio bandwidth, a unique IP, a professional helpdesk & great service. Definitely worth consdering...

www.racksale.com

BlackRain 12-29-2002 10:33 AM

Thanks for the quick reply!

I am looking for something in the $100 price range for dedicated hosting. I am seriously considering these $99 specials out there.

McAttack 12-29-2002 10:41 AM

I haven't tried these guys yet, but the price of dedicated is nice.

http://www.c-hosting.net/

BlackRain 12-29-2002 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by McAttack
I haven't tried these guys yet, but the price of dedicated is nice.

http://www.c-hosting.net/

Thanks but without any other webmasters recommendations, I have learned to beware new hosts after being burned so many times.

I pay on time for a webhosting service, I not a pain in the ass. I just want my website "online" and not get a "404" due to hosting problems.

Side note::

I keep seeing these servers advertised:

$89.99 per month, FREE SETUP!
Bandwidth Burstable, Unlimited 100Mbps

Unix Operating Systems Red Hat Linux 7.2
or
FreeBSD 4.7
Processor Intel Celeron 1.7 GHz

Memory 128 MB
Hard Drive 40 GB
Control Panel Choices Plesk PSA 5 (standard) or Ensim WEBppliance 3 (optional)
Monthly Transfer 100 GB

shlack 12-29-2002 11:08 AM

Check out where the big boys call home. We will beat any competitors prices.Check out our specials at http://www.candidhosting.com

J.R. 12-29-2002 11:12 AM

Get ahold of www.XXXWEBHOSTING.com

I have been with them for 5 years.. they
will meet or beat most anyones reasonable offer.

These guys are top notch, ask around. You will see

Hope this helps!

Keev 12-29-2002 11:14 AM

Stick with the www.ReliableServers.Net

Picslut 12-29-2002 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shlack
Check out where the big boys call home. We will beat any competitors prices.Check out our specials at http://www.candidhosting.com
Can you match c-hosting.net prices or racksales?

BlackRain 12-29-2002 11:43 AM

I am not a big boy yet. Just looking for entry level dedicated hosting!

Price range in $100 a month!

multisexsite 12-29-2002 11:44 AM

You get what you pay for.

JohnnyUtah 12-29-2002 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by multisexsite
You get what you pay for.
Yep!

p00p 12-29-2002 11:49 AM

Dude, go to www.rackshack.net

They have exactly what you are looking for.

Then, go to the companies everyone is posting in this thread (Candidhosting springs to mind) and get them to match the server configuration, and the fees.

Please post your results. :winkwink:

p00p

BlackRain 12-29-2002 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by multisexsite
You get what you pay for.
I am NOT getting what I already PAID for from some hosting companies that post on this board already.

Half of nothing is always nothing.

racksale 12-29-2002 12:09 PM

Hi - we can not match rackshack prices - at least not on their low end servers. Also you said that you wanted VERIO bw.

We can match the prices from c-hosting - in fact we will give you the same server, in the same datacenter - at an even cheaper price - if you want details on how, pls contact me directly at 19678140.

I still think that the deal that Undutchable posted from racksale will serve you good.
Its verio/level3 bw, its a good box, its with cpanel (take a look at www.racksale.com/flashdemo.htm to see the power of cpanel) its with plenty of bw, and its a good price :)

Contact me or Undutchable if you have any questions :)

re's

Ditlev
racksale.com

btw: rackshack isnt such a bad move if you know a bit bout linux, and can accept Ensim panel etc

Mikeee 12-29-2002 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p
Dude, go to www.rackshack.net

They have exactly what you are looking for.

Then, go to the companies everyone is posting in this thread (Candidhosting springs to mind) and get them to match the server configuration, and the fees.

Please post your results. :winkwink:

p00p

The guy said he knows nothing about dedicated servers. Rack shack is the best deal anyone could ever offer online, but if you dont know how to admin your server, youre fucked. No support at all. So its not for the beginner.

BlackRain 12-29-2002 12:31 PM

Thanks to you folks who have replied.

I am having been looking all day at various offers and sites like webhostingtalk.com

What a murky world of resellers, con artists, and bs that is out there. I may be new to dedicated servers, but $ 5 a gig after your first 20 gigs free. Come on. And $275 for 80g bandwidth from a reseller?

Picslut 12-29-2002 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlackRain
Thanks to you folks who have replied.

I am having been looking all day at various offers and sites like webhostingtalk.com

What a murky world of resellers, con artists, and bs that is out there. I may be new to dedicated servers, but $ 5 a gig after your first 20 gigs free. Come on. And $275 for 80g bandwidth from a reseller?

Yeah some of the host dont have a clue.

p00p 12-29-2002 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mikeee
The guy said he knows nothing about dedicated servers. Rack shack is the best deal anyone could ever offer online, but if you dont know how to admin your server, youre fucked. No support at all. So its not for the beginner.
And the guy wants 40-80 gigs of disk space, and 400 gigs transfer. For $100/month.

He better learn how to admin quick, learn Ensim, Plesk, or Cobalt, or pay more cash for hosting.

Any hosts that posted on this thread that will give 400 gigs transfer, 40-80 gigs disk space AND admin his server for $99/month? Where are y'all? :1orglaugh

p00p

BlackRain 12-29-2002 01:47 PM

Sorry ... that 40-80 gig storage was a typo on my part. Currently, I just need 4-8 gigs storage.

supportex 12-29-2002 02:13 PM

I would recommend www.rackshack.net if you are ok with unmanaged unix box.
On the upside
- network is very stable
on the downside
- they dont install FreeBSD
- support is very minimum, so you need to be a good sysadmin.

Overall, they offer good value for $99
Just my 2 cents...

BlackRain 12-29-2002 03:02 PM

Found One!

Anyone have experience with these folks.....

RedHat Linux 8.0, FreeBSD 4.7, Debian or Slackware.
Processor: AMD Duron 1.2GHz.
Memory: 128MB ECC SDRAM.
Hard Drive: 40GB EIDE 7200RPM.
Control Panel: Webmin Server Administrator.
Full Root Access.
Free Manual Reboot.
Free Set-Up.
24/7 Customer Support.
Free Server Traffic (MRTG) Monitoring Tool.
Free DNS Management.
Free IPs (10).
No Restrictions on Contents (Adult Materials Welcome).
No 95th Percentile Rule.
Monthly Billing (No Contract Required).


Monthly Fee: $49.00
Data Transfer: 100 GB
Additional Traffic: $0.70 / 1GB
Set-Up Fee: $0.00

Our Cisco® powered network is connected to a 100 percent fiber-optic, nonblocking OC-192 global backbone with direct Gigabit Ethernet connections to Williams®, and Verio® (DIA customers only). To ensure maximum reliability and superior scalability, United.Colo integrates sophisticated and proven technologies such as Metro Dense Wavelength Division Multiplexing (DWDM), telco grade terabit routers, and high-end switches

Link

Any experience with them?

Pornwolf 12-29-2002 03:44 PM

Looks like someone spent some time thinking of new ways to SPAM!

MrPopup 12-29-2002 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlackRain
Found One!

Anyone have experience with these folks.....
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Link

Any experience with them?

Blackrain...

Let me know how it turns out...i am in your same position.

BlackRain 12-29-2002 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


Blackrain...

Let me know how it turns out...i am in your same position.

I found another one:

Processor: AMD Duron 1.2GHz (192k OBC / 200MHz FSB)
RAM: 128MB, Upgradeable to 1GB
Hard Drive: 40GB 7200 RPM
Monthly Transfer: 100G
Additional Traffic: $0.80 per GB
Port Type: 10Mb/s
Base Usable IP's: 4
Control Panel: Webmin
In Stock: YES

$49.00
per Month

$49.00
One-Time Setup Fee


Here is the link:
ServerOutSource

I have been busting my ass looking for entry level dedicated hosts today. I noticed it got real quite and I have not received any matching offers from emails I sent to folks on this board.

MonkeyMan 12-29-2002 04:10 PM

I could set you up with a virtual with everything you'd need....

Keep in mind.... That if a dedicated box is unmainted your gonna have to know linux. Webmin is not easy to use (I found out the hard way)


I could do 200GB/mo for 50$/mo (no setup fee bullshit)
$0.60 Per Gig Overage.
the specs are
Intel Celeron 1.7GHz.
RedHat 8.0
512MB ECC SDRAM
PERL 5, PHP 4, MySQL, SSH, DNS, POP3, SMTP


I'll maintain the box for you.

I'll throw in 2 IPs
But remeber its only a virtual account. You seem to want a dedicated. I can install anything else you need though.
I don't see why you need a gig of ram... Unless your runing a LOT of scripts or doing data crunching.



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49thParallel 12-29-2002 04:28 PM

Unitedcolo (your first "I found one" link) is totally unmanaged. Plus, it took them 3 days to set up a server that I ordered, when they promised 24 hours. Plus, after 5 days, my doamins still hadn't been added to their dns. I cancelled before ever using the box. They still charged me.

Rackshack.net offers probably the best bet for your purposes. And their 24/7 online chat and user forum will answer any questions you may have. And contrary to popular belief, their 400 gig transfer boxes are all multihomed. Never cogent..always verio or another go bw provider.

MonkeyMan 12-29-2002 04:34 PM

Why would you have united colo manage your domains if you bought a dedicated server?

They install bind for a reason. You can manage your own domain.
Rule of thumb....if your getting wholesale BW don't complain when they don't hold your hand every step of the way.

BlackRain 12-29-2002 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MonkeyMan
I could set you up with a virtual with everything you'd need....

Keep in mind.... That if a dedicated box is unmainted your gonna have to know linux. Webmin is not easy to use (I found out the hard way)


I could do 200GB/mo for 50$/mo (no setup fee bullshit)
$0.60 Per Gig Overage.
the specs are
Intel Celeron 1.7GHz.
RedHat 8.0
512MB ECC SDRAM
PERL 5, PHP 4, MySQL, SSH, DNS, POP3, SMTP


I'll maintain the box for you.

I'll throw in 2 IPs
But remeber its only a virtual account. You seem to want a dedicated. I can install anything else you need though.
I don't see why you need a gig of ram... Unless your runing a LOT of scripts or doing data crunching.



ICQ: 178749649
AIM: TheFreeMP3Guy
Yahoo: PlasticLSD
MSN: [email protected]
E-Mail: [email protected]

What is your connection ... Cogent? etc.. Do you have a webhosting site?

MonkeyMan 12-29-2002 04:36 PM

No its not cogent... cogent sucks ass. Its williams (wich isn't the best in the world, But its better than cogent)

10MBits max port burst.

The network is cicso routers OC-192 backbone with a direct connection to williams.

No Im not a hosting company. I deal one on one, with poeple. Hit me up on messaging or e-mail.

Honeyslut 12-29-2002 05:10 PM

http://www.m3server.com/dedicated/plans.asp

The CaVeMaN 12-29-2002 07:23 PM

500GB of monthly transerfer, $200 /mo. Overage ONLY $0.15 /GB


[email protected]

Carrie 12-30-2002 06:43 PM

Caveman, he said he *didn't* want Cogent and he may as well get a server at Rackshack himself rather than going with a reseller.


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