High Chargebacks? This maybe why
 

i couldn't help notice these T&C from a paysite,
it confused the hell out of me, i still can't figure
out how much they charge,, through out the whole
site they say "FREE" "Don't Pay for Porn" but
yet

wtf??
I see your point

The thing to look at closely is the "Free Trial" it is not free it's $1.95 and it is only for 30 minutes. you want to bet it takes 15 minutes to find the cancel button and then 15 minutes to fil in the form.

No wonder Visa are tightening up. We have little defense with arseholes like this around.

notice how they "accidently" placed a "." after the url causing it to go 404,,

LOL,, nice little trick

What paysite is that?

TeenTeenTeen got a nice cancel obstruction on their 24 hours free trial:
-It takes some time for your membership to be looged in the database so you have to wait four hours before you can cancel....(or something to that effect):Graucho

lol

That's the TOS from a porncash site.
For those of you wondering how they can afford to pay you $30 on a free trial its as easy as fucking the surfer up the ass with no lube.
And $50 a month for the first 2 months and then it starts dropping....whew

Those are from the Porn Cash T & C I believe.

so after 5 months it'll be only $9.99 per month :)

now thats a good deal

i don't know why most paysites don't drop the membership fees down to 10-15 bux a month after that many months. maybe even give them a free month

Not much different then the shady tricks played by about 95% of the sites out there....where trials need to be cancelled 24 hours before end of trial to avoid rebill. And yes, it's in their T & C's...usually after about 1,000 words of assorted legal mumble jumble that is designed to ensure that the surfer will simply assume that this is standard copyright clauses, and close the T & C before reading the Trial clause.

Yes, this business of full of boiler room, scamming pricks. And they all think they are so good at business. Truth is, anyone can suceed using these shady tactics. That doesn't take business smarts...

You need a lawyer to translate you the T&C before joining them.
I also read something similar at an avs, universalpass, I guess.

that's done by this forum, not by them.

http://www.consumerripoffreport.com/...mit2=Search%21

read that shit... supabill has the sketchiest terms and conditions of everyone. they offer "free 30 min passes" to see the whole site or "free 3 day passes" to visit a restricted part.
to find out about cancelling before the trial is over and all that shit, you have to click a tiny link to their t&c and decipher it.

Another sketchy thing is those companies like FreeNetPass, UniversalPass and FreeAgeCard which offer you a free AVS pass, but sign you up to a paysite at the same time.

From the FreeNetPass FAQ:
From their Join page:
From their Terms and Conditions (which is only linked at the very bottom of the FAQ):

So, how's your program coming along? It's been awhile since we've heard from you. I'm curious to see the super honest, ultra open, non-shaving program in effect...seriously......

I'm doing fine..thanks for asking..

And yes, I am still sick and tired of seeing "customers" raked over the coals..and only a handful of webmasters with the intelligence to admit that all of the techniques described in this thread are cheap excuses for not having the ability to develop a business without lying and cheating.

Sykkboy..maybe you can explain to me why you and others find it necessary to hide terms like, Cancel 24 hours before end of trial. Can you tell me that there is any reason for this beyond trying to trick the customer into a rebill. Plus, your T & C is in almost white blue, making the link do anything but stand out.