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will76 04-08-2010 10:39 PM

Cam Site Owners - Want to make your cam site better? A lot better?
 
This isn't an Educational Series post, but there is some good info shared, just not a lot of fine details. And I am not doing it solely for the benefit of being nice, I'm looking to be compensated. So if you are not satisfied with how much your cam site makes now and would like to make a lot more, try to crack the top 3 cam sites or possibly become the #1 site, then read on.

Whether you have an existing kick ass cam site, one that has been around for a while that needs an overhaul, or getting ready to launch a new one... I can help take your cam site to the next level by focusing on the following:

Providing features and services that apply to EVERYONE. Typically most cam sites only sell cam credits and offer cam shows that cost anywhere from $1 - $5 a minute. You are missing out on a very large part of the market. I can help you add several revenue generating features to your website that will appeal to everyone, from the guy who can only afford to spend $10 a month to the person who can only spend $50 a week, to the whale who can drop $1000 a day, you HAVE to have something to offer to EVERYONE. "Cam credits" or ppm revenue should only be about 50% of your revenue, not 100% or close to it. Just because you have a cam site doesn't mean you should only offer ppm, there are so many other ways to make money on cam sites, why not take advantage of it?

Features, Features, Features... I have about 5 - 10 revenue generating features that can be added to your site to help maximize your RPM RevenuePerMember. Some of these features you may have, or you may have seen on other sites, but there are a few I can guarantee you have never seen on any cam site before.

It's no secret, what makes cam sites the most money is the top notch, high quality chat host who know how to turn surfers into regulars. Want to get the best chat host from the internet to work on your site? I have an innovative (never been done before) way to do this. When I explain it to you, you will be surprised you didn't think of it.

Quality is better than Quantity. Don't get caught up with the delusion that you need to have 1000s of chat host online to make money. I can help you form a strategy to find the right amount of chat host to have on your site. However, making sure to cover the main niches is important and I can help devise a plan to take care of that as well.

Sign up pages, pathways, and doorways. There is a million ways to screw up on your sign up page. The sign up page is the most important page on your site for non members and the re-buy page (or process) is the most critical for existing members. It is extremely important to find out what your members like and to make sure he not only has no problem finding it but you make it SUPER easy by putting it right in front of him. Don't give the member a chance to get lost on the site. I have several ways to make sure the member stays involved and gets exactly what he is looking for. Don't let him get frustrated or stray.

Ease of spending. Don't make the member jump through hoops to spend money. I can help you make it as easy as possible for your members to spend money on the site. Whether it is for ppm cam time or on other features, it needs to be very easy for them to make purchases.

Chat host / Member interaction. When you have better chat host it is a lot easier to have them utilize different features to provide a high level of member interaction. When you have a cam site full of crappy studios, it is impossible to provide good interaction to their members, much less take it a step further and use all of the tools I can help you set up on your site. The more the member is involved the better chance he has of becoming a regular and sticking to your cam site.

Here is the logic. You have to make your cam site as profitable as possible. How do you do that? By maximizing your revenue as much as possible. There is A-B-C-D-E logic here I can explain to you step by step. Each part of the process has to be maximized. You ultimately want to make something off of every person who hits your site, in one way or another. When your site is maximized, you are making more money. In turn your chat host are making more money, and your affiliates are making more money. The more you maximize the revenue per member who finds your site the more profitable your own advertising campaigns will become. The more profitable your ad buys are, that not only provides you with more funds to buy more traffic but more places to buy from. In the past a campaign you may have lost a small amount of money on may now make you money so you can start buying from them again. If you offer PPS, the more profit you make the more you can pay your affiliates by raising the PPS rates. If your site is Revshare, the more profit you make the more your affiliates make. The more your affiliates make, the more affiliates you attract and the more traffic they will send to you. Which then pumps more money into your site, enabling you to get better and more chat host. The better the chat host, the better they convert surfers to members. The chat host and affiliates follow the money. Maximize your site's earning ability along with some other strategic moves and you will attract the very best affiliates and chat host. It creates a perfect circle, when you have all the pieces in place it will spin perfectly, have one piece out of line and it will fall apart or never take off. It's an art.

I could go on and on. From creating promos for affiliates to use, helping you attract new affiliates, to tweaking your existing site, to helping you coach your chathost, to designing your chat host and affiliate's admin area. There are so many things you can do right and wrong with a cam site. Some cam sites are doing parts of this, some more some less, but no cam site has put it all together yet, and none of them have a few of the features I have come up with.


Here is what I am offering... A review of your site with my suggestions on simple changes you can make now. A game plan on what I think you should implement over the next 3-6 months, and a huge brain dump of every good cam related idea I have ever had that could keep you busy for a couple years. You can pick through it and find the stuff you would like to use. I can explain in detail exactly what you need to do and why I think so. I can spend a couple hours a week checking the progess of the new features as they are being created. If you don't know, I've spent over 10 years advertising cam sites and have generated over 100K credit card joins to cam sites. I've worked with chat host, owned a cam house, and even for a short period of time (many years ago) worked in front of the cam my self. I understand every aspect (owner, affiliate, and chathost) very well.

Satisfaction guaranteed. If you feel what I offered is of no value and you do not want to use it, no problem I will refund your money 100%. In that case I will simply post all of my ideas here for everyone (including your competition) to see what I shared with you, that you thought had no value. So if you think it is worthless then you would have no problem taking your money back and me making this information public ;) I would prefer to work with one good cam site and see if I can help make them #1 So make me some offers. Unless if you are satisfied with your cam site, and don't want to do anything new, then I wish you luck. I am willing to travel to meet you and explain everything to your staff, if you provide the accommodations. Not to float my own ego, but I probably know more about cam sites then most cam site owners and am one of the most knowledgeable people out there when it comes to cam sites.

I know its hard to put a price on what I my services, make me an good offer. Who ever is the highest that I feel comfortable working with I will go with. If I do half as good of a job as I think I can for you I would appreciate some type of profit sharing or bonuses, and would be happy to help support your site going forward and helping to develop new features.

(I am not offering you traffic, I am offering to help you make your traffic more profitable which is the key to everything for your cam site. If you are just looking for traffic or your main purpose is to try to get me to send traffic to your site don't waste your time and mine. You are missing the big picture, go hire a traffic broker if that is all you think you need.)


I am tired of having all of this information in my head and not seeing it all being utilized and everything coming together. It would be great to see it all come a reality instead of just good ideas that have been sitting on the shelf way to long.

ahoy 04-08-2010 10:54 PM

Curious to why you haven't just started your own cam site?

will76 04-08-2010 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahoy (Post 17018257)
Curious to why you haven't just started your own cam site?

Because I know enough about what it takes to make one really successful, to know that I do not have the time, resources, capital, programming staff, traffic (mainly time and money) to pull it all off.

I also would shy away from helping someone who is starting a new cam site, just started one, or wants to start one unless they have plenty of what I just mentioned. If you going to try to start a cam site with just a couple hundred thousand dollars, don't waste your time or money.

will76 04-09-2010 05:44 AM

early morning bump.

TampaToker 04-12-2010 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17018265)
Because I know enough about what it takes to make one really successful, to know that I do not have the time, resources, capital, programming staff, traffic (mainly time and money) to pull it all off.
.

Smart man :winkwink:

Hotrocket 04-12-2010 09:53 PM

Seems like a great offer..someone should take you up on it.
Good Luck

SEO Expert 04-12-2010 10:06 PM

will76 do you even make any money anymore?

why write about stuff you have zero experience with anymore.

will76 04-12-2010 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEO Expert (Post 17027729)
will76 do you even make any money anymore?

why write about stuff you have zero experience with anymore.


Let's see you asked a question and then answered it yourself with your own thoughts, which god knows where you got the information from to form that opinion.

Can you give us an intelligent reason why you seem to think you know so much about how much money I am making and if I am knowledgeable on this subject "any more" or not ?

Agent 488 04-12-2010 10:30 PM

2010 not 2004.

will76 04-12-2010 10:36 PM

Troll fest tonight. What is 2010 suppose to mean? You are so clueless with your baseless comments its not funny. If you think the majority of the cam sites have already maximized their income and profiting as much as possible then you are as dumb as your one liners.

lagcam 04-12-2010 11:04 PM

Edited:

Will you probably should have approached cam site owners directly and privately rather than pitch here leaving yourself open to abuse from people with no interest in or knowledge of the subject. You also have probably revealed too much of your hand ;)

That said, I for one would listen to you, because I have seen sufficient evidence of your intelligence and knowledge, although I am pretty sure that many of the things that you think are great ideas, I will have a reason why they are maybe not or wouldn't work for every camsite.

Running a cam site is not as easy as many people think (evidenced by how many set up in a blaze and then slowly burn out and die), and certainly not as easy as it was a few years ago. My site is far from the biggest, it is far from the best.....even in its own niche it is not even in the top 3, but we survive, and it's not by chance.

EDITED SECTION:

You slam a guy for commenting on how much money you make and what you know without actually knowing and yet he is only doing the same as you did when you say you "know more than most camsite owners"

You can't complain when people question your knowledge when you openly question others.

Most people who have run a camsite know they could be making more money.

MOST businesses could make more money.

Back seat drivers always think they know more than the driver, and most often don't.

I appreciate you have your aggressive approach to things and that you are a hit the ground running guy, but as I believe I have mentioned before, often the content of your messages gets lost in its delivery.

/EDIT

If you would like a private chat, you can contact me via the support system on the site in my sig. I look forward to learning how stupid I am :)

mgtarheels 04-12-2010 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 17027795)
Will you probably should have approached cam site owners directly and privately rather than pitch here leaving yourself open to abuse from people with no interest in or knowledge of the subject. You also have probably revealed too much of your hand ;)

That said, I for one would listen to you, because I have seen sufficient evidence of your intelligence and knowledge, although I am pretty sure that many of the things that you think are great ideas, I will have a reason why they are maybe not or wouldn't work for every camsite.

Running a cam site is not as easy as many people think (evidenced by how many set up in a blaze and then slowly burn out and die), and certainly not as easy as it was a few years ago. My site is far from the biggest, it is far from the best.....even in its own niche it is not even in the top 3, but we survive, and it's not by chance.

If you would like a private chat, you can contact me via the support system on the site in my sig,

Sent you a message

SEO Expert 04-12-2010 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17027753)
Can you give us an intelligent reason why you seem to think you know so much about how much money I am making and if I am knowledgeable on this subject "any more" or not ??

I passed judgment based on the amount of "looking for work" threads you've been making.
Obviously your are hurting for cash.

Which brings me to my second point: people who are experts in some area rarely have problems making money (much less find themselves "unemployed".)

will76 04-12-2010 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 17027795)
Edited:

Will you probably should have approached cam site owners directly and privately rather than pitch here leaving yourself open to abuse from people with no interest in or knowledge of the subject. You also have probably revealed too much of your hand ;)

That said, I for one would listen to you, because I have seen sufficient evidence of your intelligence and knowledge, although I am pretty sure that many of the things that you think are great ideas, I will have a reason why they are maybe not or wouldn't work for every camsite.

Running a cam site is not as easy as many people think (evidenced by how many set up in a blaze and then slowly burn out and die), and certainly not as easy as it was a few years ago. My site is far from the biggest, it is far from the best.....even in its own niche it is not even in the top 3, but we survive, and it's not by chance.

EDITED SECTION:

You slam a guy for commenting on how much money you make and what you know without actually knowing and yet he is only doing the same as you did when you say you "know more than most camsite owners"

You can't complain when people question your knowledge when you openly question others.

Most people who have run a camsite know they could be making more money.

MOST businesses could make more money.

Back seat drivers always think they know more than the driver, and most often don't.

I appreciate you have your aggressive approach to things and that you are a hit the ground running guy, but as I believe I have mentioned before, often the content of your messages gets lost in its delivery.

/EDIT

If you would like a private chat, you can contact me via the support system on the site in my sig. I look forward to learning how stupid I am :)


I'm use to the abuse, it's GFY and been posting her for 7 years. I just forget to use my ignore button as fast I should.

I didn't slam a guy for questioning how much I make, I responded to an idiot who told me I don't make money/have experience with cam sites any more. The guy didn't question me, he asked / answered his own question telling me I don't have experience with cams any more and therefore implying that I don't make any money from them anymore.

Trust me, I didn't give away anything. Just broad concepts, the devil is in the details. You can have the right idea but if you do one thing wrong it will make it not work. The "idea" is great but if you don't have the exact ways to do it, then you have nothing.

If you want to quote me, then please quote me correctly, I never said I know more than most cam site owners I said " but I probably know more about cam sites then most cam site owners ". I believe that statement to be true as evident of looking at the all of the cam sites out there and what they offer. Also looking at the new cam sites that pop up all the time where the owner got involved a couple years ago and thinks he has it all figured out but yet his cam site never takes off.

I know what is involved with running a cam site. If people know they can be making more money as you say then why are they NOT doing the things to make them more money? Are they in the business to make a small amount of money or to make their business as profitable as they can?

If my methods and reputation either here posting on gfy or contacting people directly, makes someone want me to help them (or not), that's fine be me either way. I guess you missed the part where I said I was willing to refund all of their money after I gave them all the information if they felt like it was shit and nothing they were going to use. You can't get a better deal then that. With that said, I don't need to do this. I can take this to the grave with me. I would rather see it go to use but if people can't get my message because my delivery is bad, then their loss. I know that sounds cocky, but there are some things you are good at in life and then there is a lot of stuff you are not. I know what i am good at and I know what I suck at. The one thing I can hang my hat on is that I know a lot about cams, more than a LOT of people, and will stake my reputation and 10+ years of doing this that I can provide them with everything they need to know to blow up their cam site. Plus put a money back guarantee on it to even back that.

Not in the mood for trolls tonight, reply back with one liners, or retarded ask & answer your own questions and don't expect a reply i need to break out the ignore button. If you want to debate, call me out, or argue something by all means feel free but put some substance behind it or don't expect a reply.

Agent 488 04-12-2010 11:46 PM

no one cares anymore.

Agent 488 04-12-2010 11:50 PM

bullet points. it's 2010. the age of twitter.

SEO Expert 04-12-2010 11:51 PM

BTW Will, how are your www.viraldiscussion.com and www.referralmatrix.com mega projects doing?

Pretty much the same as www.yessignals.com by the looks of it.

will76 04-12-2010 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEO Expert (Post 17027843)
I passed judgment based on the amount of "looking for work" threads you've been making.
Obviously your are hurting for cash.

Which brings me to my second point: people who are experts in some area rarely have problems making money (much less find themselves "unemployed".)

You are an idiot. I've made 2 post in 10 years offering to do consulting work for cam sites. Prove me wrong, and point out all of these posts I am making looking for work. I've never made any post looking for a job or work other than those 2 consulting posts over 10 years. It will probably be another 10 years before I offer this again if no one decides to do it.

Not hurting at all. If I was hurting for cash I would be kissing ass and blowing people instead of having attitude. I also wouldn't offer a money back guarantee.

Would love to see "all of these looking for work threads" i've been posting :upsidedow please do post them here and prove me wrong. Would love to see why morons here think I am broke.


fucking intelligence of someone people on here is equal to that of a flea. You deduct I am unemployed and hurting for money because i offered to help 1 cam site company make their site a lot better because I decided I was never going to do my own site.

P.S. click on the banner in my sig I need to pay for rent from sig views. lol

SEO Expert 04-12-2010 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17027846)
I didn't slam a guy for questioning how much I make, I responded to an idiot who told me I don't make money/have experience with cam sites any more. The guy didn't question me, he asked / answered his own question telling me I don't have experience with cams any more and therefore implying that I don't make any money from them anymore.

Willl, you've made some cash on Cam sites 10 years ago by referring affiliates to iFriends - the only cam program on the market back then.

Time have changed. You are not needed anymore. You are obsolete.

Agent 488 04-12-2010 11:56 PM

thought trolls were on ignore.

will76 04-13-2010 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17027859)
bullet points. it's 2010. the age of twitter.

Ok thanks for your contribution. I stand corrected. Silly me, its the age of twitter.... cam sites are so 2004. Twitter is what is popular now or the fuck ever you are trying to say.



good job guys, you caught me tired at the end of a long day and sucked me into being retarded by arguing with retards. The fact that you don't know shit is why you can't understand what I am offering here. Enjoy the rest of your night trolling and making your brillant observations about who on GFY is hurting for money or not. I hope you find a lot of success in your abilities to master those skills.

ignore coming out before you make more look like more of a dumb ass than you have already succeeded in doing.

Agent404 or whatever, i really do feel sorry for you btw, get out the house and get a life bro, that has to be more to life then trolling gfy with a fake nick.

Agent 488 04-13-2010 12:03 AM

your shit is long winded. who the hell is going to read that. ie: pitch distilled to 140 characters.

you are too pigheaded and egotistical to listen to anyone so whatever. good night.

SEO Expert 04-13-2010 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17027879)
The fact that you don't know shit is why you can't understand what I am offering here.

Willy, here's a newsflash for you: people who are making real money are flying so low under the radar you wouldn't even know if they popped right in your face.

They are too busy stuffing their bank accounts and they surely don't make threads on internet boards offering consulting services, trying to prove everyone around how much shit they know.

Now crawl back under your rock.

mgtarheels 04-13-2010 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEO Expert (Post 17027887)
Willy, here's a newsflash for you: people who are making real money are flying so low under the radar you wouldn't even know if they popped right in your face.

They are too busy stuffing their bank accounts and they surely don't make threads on internet boards offering consulting services, trying to prove everyone around how much shit they know.

Now crawl back under your rock.

Coming from a guy who has nicknamed himself "SEO Expert" yet didn't know that Google frowns upon bought hardlinks and link trades.

cam_girls 04-13-2010 12:35 AM

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...7/b21b9d6b.jpg

You made a logo VD?

LeRoy 04-13-2010 12:44 AM

Cams are the way to go. Catch one good whale and you're in the $$

pradaboy 04-13-2010 02:30 AM

This is a solid offer for any cam company. Anyone who knows only half of what Will has done knows he is a priceless asset.

CamTraffic 04-13-2010 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEO Expert (Post 17027729)
will76 do you even make any money anymore?

why write about stuff you have zero experience with anymore.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

will76 04-13-2010 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cam_girls (Post 17027928)

Yeah, that was on purpose to make people notice and remember.

I made 2 sites about 3 years ago that I worked on for a couple months and wasn't happy with the results so I junked it. Viral discussion was one of them. Referral matrix the other.

It makes me laugh every time some idiot (not you) pops up to try to discredit my abilities with cam sites by pointing out some project I worked on 3 years ago, for a couple months that failed but it had nothing to do with cam sites.

I know that might come as a shock to some people, but I don't succeed with every single project I work on. Those sites were the last of several smaller projects I tried over the years that were out of my realm of expertise. I learned more and more each time to stick with what you know best and do that.

will76 04-13-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrocket (Post 17027714)
Seems like a great offer..someone should take you up on it.
Good Luck

thanks, i appreciate it.

will76 04-14-2010 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy (Post 17028041)
This is a solid offer for any cam company. Anyone who knows only half of what Will has done knows he is a priceless asset.

Thanks.

Bump for any cam site owners, ceo's, or upper level management that haven't seen this yet. Feel free to contact me at my email listed in my sig.

will76 11-12-2010 10:01 AM

bump for typical GFY, try making a business thread sharing ideas and offering help just to get attacked by trolls wanting to argue.

stocktrader23 11-12-2010 08:32 PM

Sponsors don't spend money unless you let them buy you a beer at the show. They don't like change much either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahoy (Post 17018257)
Curious to why you haven't just started your own cam site?

I could do it, I don't because fuck that. I don't give a flying fuck to be in that end of the biz.

botfurom 11-12-2010 08:56 PM

Impressive!

icymelon 11-13-2010 01:31 AM

most guys who are making a profit running a site think they know everything. but I'm curious. i dont own a cam studio. and i dont know much about it. but i would love to hear more from someone who knows about it.


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