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GatorB 03-27-2010 11:17 AM

U.S. to make $8 bil profit from bailing out Citi
 
Among the banks that rule Wall Street, Citigroup got a bailout that was bigger than the rest. Now the company is about to pay a king's ransom for its federal rescue.

The Obama administration is making final preparations to sell its stake in the New York bank, according to industry and federal sources.

At today's prices, the sale would net more than $8 billion, by far the largest profit returned from any firm that accepted bailout funds and the transaction would be the second-largest stock sale in history.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36062775...shington_post/

cybermike 03-27-2010 11:24 AM

Only problem is how to sell those shares.. if you dump them all at the same time its going to kill the stock price

directfiesta 03-27-2010 12:04 PM

That cannot be true :mad:

Anything that Barack Hussein Osama does is a catastrophe ....:upsidedow

Must be extreme left wing media... checking the fair & balanced one now!

The Demon 03-27-2010 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16984063)
Among the banks that rule Wall Street, Citigroup got a bailout that was bigger than the rest. Now the company is about to pay a king's ransom for its federal rescue.

The Obama administration is making final preparations to sell its stake in the New York bank, according to industry and federal sources.

At today's prices, the sale would net more than $8 billion, by far the largest profit returned from any firm that accepted bailout funds and the transaction would be the second-largest stock sale in history.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36062775...shington_post/

Ah yes, another bailout. Way to go Obama ROFL. Then again, anything reported on MSNBC and CNN is truth, while Foxnews is right wing propaganda. Too funny:)

Btw, it's funny how everyone was bitching about the bailouts when they were initiated by Bush, but Obama initiated one and it's great! Gotta love the morons..

EscortBiz 03-27-2010 12:56 PM

well by the time they are done paying the capital gains tax they will be left with 4bil

lol

LiveDose 03-27-2010 12:59 PM

When are we getting our money back from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?

The Demon 03-27-2010 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16984212)
well by the time they are done paying the capital gains tax they will be left with 4bil

lol

This just teaches you that if your company fails, the government will bail you out. If you can't pay for insurance, the government will bail you out. Gotta love the dumbing down of American society the past 40-50 years.

POed-poster 03-27-2010 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16984208)
Ah yes, another bailout. Way to go Obama ROFL. Then again, anything reported on MSNBC and CNN is truth, while Foxnews is right wing propaganda. Too funny:)

Btw, it's funny how everyone was bitching about the bailouts when they were initiated by Bush, but Obama initiated one and it's great! Gotta love the morons..

Jesus Christ, you're a fucking idiot!

GatorB 03-27-2010 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16984208)
Ah yes, another bailout. Way to go Obama ROFL. Then again, anything reported on MSNBC and CNN is truth, while Foxnews is right wing propaganda. Too funny:)

Btw, it's funny how everyone was bitching about the bailouts when they were initiated by Bush, but Obama initiated one and it's great! Gotta love the morons..

Who is the moron? YOU. Not only did we get the money back we gave to Citi we will also make $8 bil PROFIT. Which part of that is too hard for your brain to understand?

GatorB 03-27-2010 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16984220)
This just teaches you that if your company fails, the government will bail you out. If you can't pay for insurance, the government will bail you out. Gotta love the dumbing down of American society the past 40-50 years.

Yeah getting paid back 100% then making another $8 billion PROFIT absolutely sucks.

POed-poster 03-27-2010 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16984220)
This just teaches you that if your company fails, the government will bail you out. If you can't pay for insurance, the government will bail you out. Gotta love the dumbing down of American society the past 40-50 years.

Yes, we know well that conservative retards like you yearn for the good old (boy) days.

http://www.godorscience.com/klan.jpg

BlackCrayon 03-27-2010 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16984220)
This just teaches you that if your company fails, the government will bail you out. If you can't pay for insurance, the government will bail you out. Gotta love the dumbing down of American society the past 40-50 years.

ideally the only times a company should be bailed out is if letting it fail will fuck over tens of thousands of innocent consumers.

POed-poster 03-27-2010 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16984233)
Who is the moron? YOU. Not only did we get the money back we gave to Citi we will also make $8 bil PROFIT. Which part of that is too hard for your brain to understand?

You are talking to a retard. Remember, you can't argue with STUPID!

The Demon 03-27-2010 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16984233)
Who is the moron? YOU. Not only did we get the money back we gave to Citi we will also make $8 bil PROFIT. Which part of that is too hard for your brain to understand?

Haha, gotta love the morons known as GatorB and Poed.

The Demon 03-27-2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 16984241)
ideally the only times a company should be bailed out is if letting it fail will fuck over tens of thousands of innocent consumers.

I disagree crayon. A company should never be bailed out. If it fails, it fails and something new rises..

The Demon 03-27-2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POed-poster (Post 16984243)
You are talking to a retard. Remember, you can't argue with STUPID!

Which is why you're the dumbest, most clinically insane person on this forum. :thumbsup

cykoe6 03-27-2010 01:13 PM

Quote:

U.S. to make $8 bil profit from bailing out Citi
That sounds like good news to me. :thumbsup

POed-poster 03-27-2010 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 16984241)
ideally the only times a company should be bailed out is if letting it fail will fuck over tens of thousands of innocent consumers.

I have to admit that I wasn't all that happy with the bailouts. Individuals who lost their homes and jobs because of the economy got no help whatsoever from the government, but corporations who caused all this shit got billions. Half of Wallstreet belongs in prison. The other half belongs at the bottom of the pond with the rest of the pond scum.

POed-poster 03-27-2010 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16984254)
Which is why you're the dumbest, most clinically insane person on this forum. :thumbsup

Says the guy who believes in invisible ghosts in the sky and takes his info from Rush. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I got news for you. You ain't never gonna be no lawyer, dumass!

BlackCrayon 03-27-2010 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16984252)
I disagree crayon. A company should never be bailed out. If it fails, it fails and something new rises..

And how many thousands would claim bankruptcy as a result? it not their customers fault that the company was involved in risky investing yet they are the ones who pay the ultimate price.

LiveDose 03-27-2010 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POed-poster (Post 16984236)
Yes, we know well that conservative retards like you yearn for the good old (boy) days.

http://www.godorscience.com/klan.jpg



Don't forget about this liberal pig:

http://saynsumthn.files.wordpress.co...1/kkk-byrd.jpg

IllTestYourGirls 03-27-2010 01:24 PM

So I should expect a check in the mail?

The Demon 03-27-2010 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 16984265)
And how many thousands would claim bankruptcy as a result? it not their customers fault that the company was involved in risky investing yet they are the ones who pay the ultimate price.

It's a double edged sword, but the message should be clear. You fuck up, you fail. That's how economics should work. For instance, when I pick stocks to put in my portfolio, I make sure to do as much research as I can on the management. If I don't do my research and the stock goes under due to a company failing or what not, I have myself to blame. At this rate, we can all fuck up and expect the government to bail us out.

POed-poster 03-27-2010 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16984353)
For instance, when I pick stocks to put in my portfolio, I make sure to do as much research as I can on the management.

You don't know what the fuck you are doing. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The Demon 03-27-2010 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POed-poster (Post 16984424)
You don't know what the fuck you are doing. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Sure thing mental patient #192853. Please remember to take your medication before you go on your usual anti religious crusade. :)

seeandsee 03-27-2010 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16984063)
Among the banks that rule Wall Street, Citigroup got a bailout that was bigger than the rest. Now the company is about to pay a king's ransom for its federal rescue.

The Obama administration is making final preparations to sell its stake in the New York bank, according to industry and federal sources.

At today's prices, the sale would net more than $8 billion, by far the largest profit returned from any firm that accepted bailout funds and the transaction would be the second-largest stock sale in history.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36062775...shington_post/

time for tube cities

GatorB 03-27-2010 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16984353)
At this rate, we can all fuck up and expect the government to bail us out.

As long the government gets paid back plus 18% like Citi I don't see an issue.

gideongallery 03-27-2010 07:52 PM

Quote:

During the height of the financial crisis in October and November of 2008, Citigroup got more than $45 billion in federal aid in exchange for preferred shares. The government later restructured that package. Officials converted $20 billion into a loan, and the remaining $25 billion was converted in September into common stock at the price of $3.25 a share.

Citigroup was the only bank that gave common shares to the government, because the firm was in worse shape than its rivals and couldn't promise to repay its aid entirely in cash.
no other bank bail out followed this plan and the only reason this bank was covered was because it was a crapshoot that they would survive.

it luckly panned out but it just as easily could have resulted in this bank going belly up and the government lossing it 45 billion

8 billion on a 45 billion bet is not as great a return as you think it is.

And it amazing how democrats are going to point to this as proof that the bail out work, especially when you consider that in every other case the government lost money because they covered the carrying cost of the loans and basically only got their money back.

MRock 03-27-2010 08:26 PM

By issuing stock and giving it to the government last year, Citigroup had diluted the value of stock held by existing shareholders.

will76 03-27-2010 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16984233)
Who is the moron? YOU. Not only did we get the money back we gave to Citi we will also make $8 bil PROFIT. Which part of that is too hard for your brain to understand?

like most people with strong views, he heard one word "bail out" and jumped to conlusions and didn't read the rest of the thread. Happens all the time with people who have strong political views on both sides.

teomaxxx 03-28-2010 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16984876)
As long the government gets paid back plus 18% like Citi I don't see an issue.

wait for the price when they will be selling Citi. Whoever with clear mind should be selling Citi asap. you dont sell $30 billion worth of stock with price of the stock going up....but Citi stock actually jumped on day they annouced intention to sell the stock....

teomaxxx 03-28-2010 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16984876)
As long the government gets paid back plus 18% like Citi I don't see an issue.

also forgot to add:

"And what about the $350 Billion the Fed made in guarantees on Citi's assets? Let's see the auditing on that!"

IllTestYourGirls 03-28-2010 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16984235)
Yeah getting paid back 100% then making another $8 billion PROFIT absolutely sucks.

Well at least you admit you don't mind fascism.

Robbie 03-28-2010 07:41 AM

8 Billion! Cool! And the Afghan war is currently costing 2.5 Billion every month. And that doesn't count the Iraq war and the fact that we STILL occupy Germany and Japan 60 years after WW2. Or the 70+ other countries that we have troops stationed in.

Hell if you added up all of that shit, that 8 billion is probably gone in less than a week. :(
I wonder what history will say about us in the future?

The Demon 03-28-2010 07:44 AM

They'd probably compare it to the Fab Five of Michigan in the early 90s. Incredible potential, all the talent in the world, but a huge disappointment in the end.

Barefootsies 03-28-2010 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 16984132)
That cannot be true :mad:

Anything that Barack Hussein Osama does is a catastrophe ....:upsidedow

Must be extreme left wing media... checking the fair & balanced one now!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Rangermoore 03-28-2010 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16984063)
Among the banks that rule Wall Street, Citigroup got a bailout that was bigger than the rest. Now the company is about to pay a king's ransom for its federal rescue.

The Obama administration is making final preparations to sell its stake in the New York bank, according to industry and federal sources.

At today's prices, the sale would net more than $8 billion, by far the largest profit returned from any firm that accepted bailout funds and the transaction would be the second-largest stock sale in history.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36062775...shington_post/


So when will I get my share of the profit? They used some of my money to make it, I should get some of the profits from it...Our tax dollars..

Rangermoore 03-28-2010 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16985688)
8 Billion! Cool! And the Afghan war is currently costing 2.5 Billion every month. And that doesn't count the Iraq war and the fact that we STILL occupy Germany and Japan 60 years after WW2. Or the 70+ other countries that we have troops stationed in.

Hell if you added up all of that shit, that 8 billion is probably gone in less than a week. :(
I wonder what history will say about us in the future?

Are you anti military? Just asking...

fatfoo 03-28-2010 12:45 PM

$8 Billion profit. Unbelievable.

Looks like the Obama administration made a good investment.

xmas13 03-29-2010 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fatfoo (Post 16986458)
$8 Billion profit. Unbelievable.

Looks like the Obama administration made a good investment.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100305/...get_deficits_3

Projected deficit is approx. $10,000 billion, to put things back in perspective.

http://www.estatesgazette.com/blogs/.../money,jpg.jpg

The Demon 03-29-2010 07:56 AM

It sets a bad precedent. "You can mess up but don't worry, we will bail you out."

IllTestYourGirls 03-29-2010 09:06 AM

We found it! His stash!



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