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Redfield 03-26-2010 12:29 AM

SEO hosting, is there a difference anymore?
 
i would think that with hosts consolidating over the years, it makes the penalty for crosslinking between the same hosts less (as many major sites can be with 1 hosts)

any comments? baddog?

baddog 03-26-2010 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Redfield (Post 16980272)
(as many major sites can be with 1 hosts)

any comments? baddog?

That is how they got penalized in the first place. It wasn't that they were doing anything wrong, the rules just changed. :2 cents:

$5 submissions 03-26-2010 04:10 AM

Read the thread I posted re Matt Cutts discussing "link crawl"

Barefootsies 03-26-2010 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 16980514)
Read the thread I posted re Matt Cutts discussing "link crawl"

Read, 'got web host?'

SEO Expert 03-26-2010 04:37 AM

No difference.

"SEO hosting" is a marketing ploy to get customers.

:2 cents:

Agent 488 03-26-2010 06:25 AM

it's bullshit.

jcsike 03-26-2010 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SEO Expert (Post 16980570)
No difference.

"SEO hosting" is a marketing ploy to get customers.

:2 cents:

can you get the same thing by just getting small virtual accounts at other hosts? or the benefit here is consolidation?

webmasterchecks 03-26-2010 11:36 AM

good question, always wondered myself

UFGators2007 03-26-2010 11:44 AM

Interesting question. I recall seeing a study some time ago that found a greater percentage of sites in the top 20 results (for generic terms) had dedicated host versus virtual hosts. Anyone have a link to that study or similar?

scouser 03-26-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by UFGators2007 (Post 16981610)
Interesting question. I recall seeing a study some time ago that found a greater percentage of sites in the top 20 results (for generic terms) had dedicated host versus virtual hosts. Anyone have a link to that study or similar?

it most likely isn't related at all in terms of seo advantages... just a "coincidence" higher traffic (depending on what the "generic terms" were, top 10 could be a *lot* of traffic) sites will be able to justify buying a dedicated box rather than shared.

LaoTzu 03-26-2010 12:26 PM

Dedicated servers are faster by nature than virtual servers with thousands of little sites bogging them down. Google seems very concerned with page-load times lately, so you can't write it off as unimportant.

As far as IPs, that only matters if you have lots of small sites. If you link all of your sites together on the same IP address, you're going to have an uphill battle trying to get them all to rank. However, it's not that hard for Google to figure out algorithmically if you use the same linking schema for all your sites that those sites are all by the same webmaster.

Worry about your on-site SEO, and worry about link building. When you have those under control, worry about hosting.

:2 cents:

baddog 03-26-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jcsike (Post 16981326)
can you get the same thing by just getting small virtual accounts at other hosts? or the benefit here is consolidation?

Yes, you can accomplish the same thing by getting a dozen hosting accounts spread around, but they you have a dozen bills, a dozen control panels, a dozen points of contact with various levels of support.

Or, you can accomplish the same thing at one host like GotWebHost.com

$5 submissions 03-26-2010 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcsike (Post 16981326)
can you get the same thing by just getting small virtual accounts at other hosts? or the benefit here is consolidation?

If Matt Cutts is to be believed, No. I posted an interview he did recently where he discusses this. Baddog's comment nailed it on the head.

baddog 03-26-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UFGators2007 (Post 16981610)
Interesting question. I recall seeing a study some time ago that found a greater percentage of sites in the top 20 results (for generic terms) had dedicated host versus virtual hosts. Anyone have a link to that study or similar?


Might be this one.

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About 3% of all web sites "own" a private IP number, with the remainder being on virtual, or name-based, servers. Although only 3% are dedicated IP's, we have seen that in many instances well over 90% of the top-50 results in the search engines are sites having dedicated IP numbers. This was so strange that we have repeatedly validated these findings, and have found that switching a site from a virtual IP to a dedicated IP number alone has caused significant ranking increases. Of course, the web is so dynamic that this could be coincidence, but we do not think so.

fris 03-26-2010 01:21 PM

seo hosting is the biggest scam ever

WiredGuy 03-26-2010 02:13 PM

The boost in SERP's you'll experience might not be as big as it used to be, but for the extra few dollars it costs, getting a dedicated IP on a different C-block is usually just $1/ip that its worth it.
WG

Rodent 03-26-2010 02:48 PM

I got some snake oil


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