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David! 03-22-2010 09:36 AM

Do you want to bill 1.2 Billion mobile phone via SMS? Then let's meet in Phoenix.
 
Meet with Global Acces in Phoenix so we can show you how to bill 1.2 Billion potential SMS customers worlwide!

Global Acces will be present during the 2010 Phoenix Forum held from April 8th to April 10th. Let us show you how you can bill via SMS over 1.2 Billion people who have active mobile subscriptions. Let us also show you how you can offer recurring subscription via SMS. Don't be left out in the cold. The internet is becoming more and more a global network where the share of US users is slowly declining as the share of international users is ever increasing.

Global Acces can help you bill those international customers and let you reap the benefits of your existing foreign traffic.

You can meet with Morten or me and we'll discuss all the ways we can help you maximize your revenues.

Phoenix 03-22-2010 09:38 AM

i like this..and will come find you just to find out more info

in korea everyone pays with the phone....everywhere...you can buy a big ticket item just by holding your phone up to a thinga ma jig

they get on the bus...they press the phone to it...they use it everywhere

i see it coming to canada soon

iSpyCams 03-22-2010 09:42 AM

I've heard this is difficult and not many programs are doing it because the phone companies want a huge percentage. (like half)

Is this true?

fatfoo 03-22-2010 09:47 AM

Good luck with that.

David! 03-22-2010 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 16967197)
i like this..and will come find you just to find out more info

in korea everyone pays with the phone....everywhere...you can buy a big ticket item just by holding your phone up to a thinga ma jig

they get on the bus...they press the phone to it...they use it everywhere

i see it coming to canada soon

Great, looking forward to meet you :thumbsup

David! 03-22-2010 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 16967210)
I've heard this is difficult and not many programs are doing it because the phone companies want a huge percentage. (like half)

Is this true?

The issue that arises with using SMS or phone billing is that many intermediaries have to come into play, from the actual phone company the end user uses, to government agencies and off course taxes such as VAT charges (as high as 25%) that is typically not charged through credit cards. That is why it seems that the sponsor may get sometimes less than 50% of the proceed.

As far as being difficult, it isn't at all. We are integrated into NATS, MPA, CCBill, STP back end, for the other, we have a simple script that can easily be installed. We also can work with anyone who may have a complex system and will make sure to follow through in order to make it work. :thumbsup

GT-Omar 03-22-2010 10:07 AM

I hear you guys are doing some neat and creative things :winkwink:

andrej_NDC 03-22-2010 11:12 AM

How much can it increase gross volume? 5%? Less or more?

Shoplifter 03-22-2010 12:15 PM

Can it work with CCBill so that affiliates get credit?

Thanks!

JenniDahling 03-22-2010 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoplifter (Post 16967623)
Can it work with CCBill so that affiliates get credit?

Thanks!

Yes, as a CC Bill sponsor, you can add Global Acces with the CC Bill's feature "Cascade to URL" where you can send declines and offer phone and SMS billing as an alternative.

andrej_NDC 03-22-2010 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JenniDahling (Post 16967632)
Yes, as a CC Bill sponsor, you can add Global Acces with the CC Bill's feature "Cascade to URL" where you can send declines and offer phone and SMS billing as an alternative.

But that wouldn't credit affiliates. Please re-read the question.

Due 03-22-2010 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 16967701)
But that wouldn't credit affiliates. Please re-read the question.

It will credit affiliates and Ccbill will add the amounts to the affiliate check taking it out of your regular check. You will be paid direct from Global Acces

David! 03-22-2010 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT-Omar (Post 16967269)
I hear you guys are doing some neat and creative things :winkwink:

For sure :winkwink:

David! 03-22-2010 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 16967444)
How much can it increase gross volume? 5%? Less or more?

It all depends on how you use us. You will get the best result if you geo target your billing page. Present you regular page to those people in countries you know you can bill with credit cards, cascade declined to us and most of all, use us for your international traffic.

As far as increase in revenues, I think 5 to 6% increase is a realistic number. Although, you can easily increase that by using those simple steps I just mentioned.

As far as paying your affiliates, if you use CCBill cascading system, then they will be credited as Due mentioned, and if you use NATS then they will also be credited, so it is a win win situation.

andrej_NDC 03-22-2010 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Due (Post 16967757)
It will credit affiliates and Ccbill will add the amounts to the affiliate check taking it out of your regular check. You will be paid direct from Global Acces

I only saw epoch and segpay as billers who work within the cascade system automatically. Others can be added manually and thats why affiliates don't get credit for them, just the owner. Where exactly is global-acces within the ccbill admin?

Shoplifter 03-22-2010 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 16967918)
I only saw epoch and segpay as billers who work within the cascade system automatically. Others can be added manually and thats why affiliates don't get credit for them, just the owner. Where exactly is global-acces within the ccbill admin?

It could possibly be done with a post back to CCBill.

I would certainly like to hear more about this as we are interested if it works.

:banana

David! 03-22-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 16967918)
I only saw epoch and segpay as billers who work within the cascade system automatically. Others can be added manually and thats why affiliates don't get credit for them, just the owner. Where exactly is global-acces within the ccbill admin?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoplifter (Post 16967948)
It could possibly be done with a post back to CCBill.

I would certainly like to hear more about this as we are interested if it works.

:banana

Affiliates will get credit, Global-Acces is not yet listed as an automatic setup, CCBill will do a manual setup of the cascades, after you sign up in our system we can initiate the process for your account and CCbill will complete it. Once done CCBill will provide you with the linking URL to put on your join pages for Alternative payment options.

andrej_NDC 03-22-2010 02:06 PM

Ah, so ccbill has to do it manually, thanks for the info.

Sharky 03-22-2010 03:17 PM

bump bump for you

stever 03-22-2010 04:09 PM

5-6% increase seems to low
keeping less than 50% of what you charge a customer is another concern

i guess this is why everyone is still doing cc signup forms on mobile

what are the top countries buying via this?

JenniDahling 03-22-2010 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stever (Post 16968477)
5-6% increase seems to low
keeping less than 50% of what you charge a customer is another concern

i guess this is why everyone is still doing cc signup forms on mobile

what are the top countries buying via this?

Think of SMS/phone billing as an additional revenue stream and don't compare it to your CC sales since it truly is apples vs oranges. Phone billing via mobile and landlines do well in countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Czech Republic, etc... anywhere that credit cards are hard or impossible to get. Other countries such as Holland and Denmark do really well with SMS as well since it's widely used outside of Adult and natives are comfortable with this limited access form of payment vs something where they get billed monthly.

Paysite owners can use SMS even without mobile traffic, to convert their regular sites. If you don't want to allow members area access, you can offer archived clips and make money from the content you already made CC sales from. No reason not to convert traffic you already have.

In addition, unlike their competition, Global Acces pays sponsors every Monday for the previous week's sales. That means no waiting on carrier holds or dealing with chargebacks, they pay you per sale, no matter what. :thumbsup

David! 03-22-2010 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JenniDahling (Post 16968699)
Think of SMS/phone billing as an additional revenue stream and don't compare it to your CC sales since it truly is apples vs oranges. Phone billing via mobile and landlines do well in countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Czech Republic, etc... anywhere that credit cards are hard or impossible to get. Other countries such as Holland and Denmark do really well with SMS as well since it's widely used outside of Adult and natives are comfortable with this limited access form of payment vs something where they get billed monthly.

Paysite owners can use SMS even without mobile traffic, to convert their regular sites. If you don't want to allow members area access, you can offer archived clips and make money from the content you already made CC sales from. No reason not to convert traffic you already have.

In addition, unlike their competition, Global Acces pays sponsors every Monday for the previous week's sales. That means no waiting on carrier holds or dealing with chargebacks, they pay you per sale, no matter what. :thumbsup

Absolutely :thumbsup

We're talking an increase in revenues based on traffic you already have. We're talking you being able to generate revenues from people you cannot bill right now. We're not only talking about mobile traffic but also about regular traffic. We're talking about monetizing what is considered worthless traffic...

andrej_NDC 03-23-2010 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stever (Post 16968477)
5-6% increase seems to low
keeping less than 50% of what you charge a customer is another concern

i guess this is why everyone is still doing cc signup forms on mobile

what are the top countries buying via this?

If the sms options are directly on the join page, I would say 5% is too low, too. As cc sales may be affected and lower because of it. If those 5% would be on denied cc traffic, that would be perfect, but I doubt thats realistic.

Davy 03-23-2010 03:36 AM

I'm not sure if people would feel comfortable at this time to give out their phone number when signing up at a porn site.
Webmasters have screwed over their customers too often for this to happen easily.


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