If it weren't for AP's clickpic program, would GFY have caught on?
 

Look at other popular programs that have message boards -- when oxcash was hot -- the board was all full of people talking about their ratios... I don't know about everone -- but I think most of the original GFY people -- ie: the origins of the Boneprone Family -- came from people that pushed AP Clickpic -- we were making money -- ratios weren't really a concern becaues it was $.04 or $.06 -- either you were at 1:800 or you weren't... It was a no brainer -- you put up a clickpic banner -- follow the rules -- you watch the money come in. Lensman did all the thinking for us.

Also somehow GFY (maybe intentionally) at first maintained a (maybe) tactical distance from Amateur Pages -- it wasn't immediately clear to new GFY members that it was a site owned by ICS... GFY was its own entity... People came here to get closer to Lensman -- after all he was paying our salary... A little ass kissing was in order!

What do you think? I seem to think that the message board talk for a new program will always be about ratios unless another "carefree" program comes out that is fantastically popular... Anyhow I get invited to different webmaster boards all the time, but GFY feels like home... But home is where the cash is...

And if you vote "yes" -- you owe an explanation why... If there was nobody here to talk to in the first place -- how can say "yes" ? The original posters were all pushing AP clickpic! Am I mistaken here?

Maybe the poll should have been -- "If AP never had a non-conversion click program, would GFY have caught on?"

I know it's stupid to try to attribute 1 thing to the success of GFY -- but this is kindof important... IMHO, besides oxcash, AP clickpic was the last fantastically successful affiliate program...

I dare say it, but I think if Choker was careful he could launch a message board to rival GFY... I don't use his services -- but it's the perfect forum for buyers and sellers working together to make money...

To me it seems the next "glorious" message board will NEED TO have some kind of brokering interface attached to it...

Forward thinking here -- I don't see how GFY can remain popular unless buyers and sellers can directly lock in traffic deals from within the interface/structure/umbrella of the board itself... This is already a marketplace -- but unless it evolves to the extent that Choker has evolved his marketplace -- I don't see how GFY can have an infinite lifespan... Sure the world does not revolve around TGP -- but a traffic marketplace will evolve out of all this -- it's only a matter of time. I love GFY as much as the next guy but I'm just being realistic -- if Lensman doesn't come up w/ something new -- I don't think GFY will survive... There are already programs like AdultCentro in the works -- and Choker is well on his way with a new marketplace...

Face it -- affiliate programs are inefficient... Whoever starts providing no-brainer traffic marketplace services first to the general public will prevail over all others.

AP had nothing to do with me posting here.
If you are serious in this business, you need a presence on GFY.



shemp

No offense man, but GFY was hot for almost a year before you even registered... :)

Anyway, just remember I said it here first... so when it happens you won't be so suprised :) Most people aren't ready to look this far ahead... If you have an open mind in Vegas -- talk to Nick at LikeWhoa about the future of this biz... You might amaze yourself.

Just imagine being able to click somebody's signature -- and you are automatically signed up to their affiliate program and your traffic re-routes itself automatically given your configurable parameters... i could go ON AND ON this shit just comes out of my head all day long -- this kind of shit will blow your mind and IT'S COMING whether you like it or not.

If you want to hire me to design how this shit will work -- I expect a nice salary and an office with a window :)

Fuck the salary, I'll tell you how it's going to be 5 years from now... then I want royalties...

I think this is by far one of your more 'gayer' threads :2 cents:

merry christmas tho.

hehe

Well prove my wrong bitch. If you don't have anything intelligent to say then shut the fuck up.

pimpdog just admit you haven't had an original idea in your life -- and that's why you have nothing to contribute.

I proclaim that the biggest webmaster board is going to burn to the ground and nobody challenges me? WTF?

I think ******* is kindof a good idea -- but it's going to take a lot more than this... Maybe GFY can integrate 3rd party services also... but it would be better if these features were native to the application...

No offense taken, but i registered a lot earlier (same month you did) with the name, "the New Shemp". When the board uograded versions, i lost my P/W so i registered under the name "the Shemp"



shemp

Look at what pornjester has done -- you can see the last topic posted on his board in his signature... This shit will just evolve... I should be able to look in your signature and see 3rd party unbiased stats of figures like how many affiliates in your program -- total $ payouts tracked by GFY to these affiliates -- average conversion ratio of your program over all affiliates (tracked by GFY) -- and your top converting site... Then I should be able to click your signature and bam my mailing address, SS# etc. are forwarded from GFY's database direct into your program... and link codes should be zapped to me by email... This is EASY shit to do and it's coming.... Prove me wrong.

GFY was the right board at the right time. When you look at the competition around at the time GFY started like Netsurprise with all their fucking bullshit 'I'm making some coffee who wants some' posts every 2 fucking minutes and the fake posturing of hahahahahahaha under Little Serges rein then GFY was a breath of fresh air for many experienced webmasters to read and post on.

I really can't see GFY going anywhere all those bells and whistles you mention Fly are cool but they don't make a good message board, you need the human element for that.

nothing original eh?

you are not to bright are you? I have atleast 2 paysites that nobody has. I have another comming out next week that nobody has.. I have a script for my affiliates that nobody has(released soon) and thats just with my program.. If you had any clue how original i can be.. you would take that back son. nice try though

Wow great point. I'd have to diagree tho -- any kind of marketplace features would be optional and additive to the existing message board and I don't see how they would be visually intrusive... GFY already has plenty of bells and whistles, so what makes more useful features any different from the old ones?

Another real possibity is that GFY will just remain popular and more useful programs will "latch on" to GFY through the signature interface... Interactive/dynamic/functional signatures... but that's lost revenue for GFY + also the interface suffers... You can't natively configure the display of features -- you can't collect and distribute global statistics, see trends, etc... etc.

the problem is that only a small percentage of posters are actually conducting real business. And a lot of people who aren't on this board at all are doing big business.....This board is based around a social element. The business comes from social interactions. Your idea is good and I have no reason to doubt you..But without the social aspect, you have nothing. I have bought a lot of choker's traffic and I have bought a lot of months of Russian submitter. I also do a little bit with sexkey. but I wouldn't post on their boards for a social aspect as I would here. It would be strictly business. And with those boards, you need to be doing business FIRST before you're even on those boards. With GFY, you can be just a lurker until you know enough to make your own money..

I have never had any thing from Lensman apart from my t-shirt - not a cent. I only came here because he spammed me. Seriously. I like it here - when someone gets caught cheating, we know. When someone is an asshole - we find out damn quick. I don't make big bucks off the net, I'm no 'playa', but there's enough information and goofballs here to keep me tuned in :winkwink:

Actually, early on it was abit slow around here... Lens, Tanker, and Me posting stupid shit back and forth... The thing that really helped it take off is, this was when we started giving away shirts for a 100 posts, then the 1st GFY party really helped things as well...

I imagine AP helped some, because it gave a base of webmasters to email about this place, but it really kinda has grown all it's own!

When GFY started the rest of the boards, except maybe Porncity had gotten really anal about stupid shit, so Lens decided that we needed a very open forum which is what made people want to stay after they got their shirt....:)

Look at what pornjester has done -- you can see the last topic posted on his board in his signature... This shit will just evolve... I should be able to look in your signature and see 3rd party unbiased stats of figures like how many affiliates in your program -- total $ payouts tracked by GFY to these affiliates -- average conversion ratio of your program over all affiliates (tracked by GFY) -- and your top converting site... Then I should be able to click your signature and bam my mailing address, SS# etc. are forwarded from GFY's database direct into your program... and link codes should be zapped to me by email... This is EASY shit to do and it's coming.... Prove me wrong.



Yeah right!
You put all that personal info in one place and some clown will hack in, steal it, and fuck-up a lot of webmasters live in less than a day!
You are a real forward thinker.
You ever run for political office?

we can do business, but lets not have that info available to people.

Also, if the do gooders want to put the hurts on the adult net lets not make it one stop shopping for them to get that kind of info.

we all think someone spiked your egg nog :winkwink:

We, CDM Networks have been in the amateur adult industry since 1996. I discovered GFY rather recently, during the Visa fee introduction. I find the board an excellent place to get a statistically invalid pulse of the industry. Great contacts, good rumors, nice slander and helpful people.

I plan to stick around and add my :2 cents: for the long haul. Hopefully I can add as much as I learn.

I think that GFY just came at the right time - it took the best of both extremes - the hominess of Porn City's bbs, plus most of it's regular posters and combined it with the extreme bs that you got on hahahahahahaha et al and added a lot of business savy and came up with a winning formula.

As for the future of this board in particular, I dont think it will go as far as The Fly suggests - I think people will still want to guard a lot of personal and business statistics, after all, bullshit still plays very well - however it will change, it cant afford to let itself get stagnant.

KISS

Keep It Simple Stupid

people have no interest in having their SS #'s fly through the air with a push of a button on a messageboard.

could a superior webmaster resource site with some great fancy tools catch on and become Numero Uno? Yup, possible but not probable.

Do you think any of these webmaster resource sites are making anybody fabulously wealthy? They're not.

Well said mutt

Hey thanks Fly. :thumbsup

Jak

Yeah, Sig Swap is kinda cool but I like Wife-Swap even better.

I'm not married but I'd still like to play. Anyone game?

BTW: I got sigbucks.com :Graucho

Having a popular program to back a board is very important IMO

I would out about GFY from Eric before it was launched, I was one of the first advertisers.

Would I have been here if it was not for Eric hyping it to me?

Probably not if it was someone I didnt deal with.

Would we be advertisers on this board if it was not a known program backing it.

Well that would depend on the popularity.

But having AP back this board at the beginning was a major boost to getting the board to be #1

Anyway, for the record...

You guys have great points... so I will have to revoke my original comments...

Change sux -- GFY-4-Lyfe

BP4L

Agreed

DH

:1orglaugh

I didnt read this drivel either, like it or not, Len's has a huge market share. It really doesnt matter how he got therre does it?

Hehe. Nice. :Graucho I also got sigpancake.com but I'm not sure if that was a good choice.


Jak

Post #967+ -- Read them.

You'll see it all comes down to one thing. Always has, always will.

The aquisition of goods at a subtle cost; time.

Bribery.

:2 cents:

TheFLY, I loved your post, it seemed like a post, and made me happy that I am on a board with Lensman! :-) Tell us more stories!