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halfpint 02-24-2010 02:49 PM

Ah Fuck I give up.. I have really and truly had enough
 
What with all the shit Iv had with my sites over the past couple of months now I have problems with my car. Its throwing out white smoke. Had a compression test done and that was fine The mechanic is kinda baffled as to what the hell is causing it. Its not over heating there is no craked head, the valves and rings are fine as is the head gasket so he says. Another day in the garage with more hours looking to find the problem means more money for him

Just more expense and more fucking hassle. Iv realy had enough

candyflip 02-24-2010 02:52 PM

Such is life.

Deej 02-24-2010 02:52 PM

cracked cyclinder, cracked head or gasket, oilpan gasket....

is it coming from yoru exhaust pipe itself? or just from underneath?

halfpint 02-24-2010 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16891950)
cracked cyclinder, cracked head or gasket, oilpan gasket....

is it coming from yoru exhaust pipe itself? or just from underneath?

Its from the exhaust The mechanic has done compression tests and they were fine. The oil is also not milky. He assures me its not the gasket, or cyclinder head he thinks it might actually be from running the car to lean which has damaged the cat

96ukssob 02-24-2010 02:59 PM

dont give up. ive been through a lot of shit... a LOT and i struggled to keep moving forward.

really blows when bad shit happens and especially when you have no control over it, but do what you can to stay on track or you will regret it for the rest of your life :2 cents:

Deej 02-24-2010 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 16891968)
Its from the exhaust The mechanic has done compression tests and they were fine. The oil is also not milky. He assures me its not the gasket, or cyclinder head he thinks it might actually be from running the car to lean which has damaged the cat

possible, what kind of car is it?

If its from the exhaust it shouldnt have anythign to do with heads.

Im no certified mechanic, but i dont think running lean would cause a white smoke. THats 98% oil issue. Meaning cylinders most likely. But you say the compression is fine.... hrmmm....

no clue without witnessing things myself :thumbsup

Semi-Retired-Dave 02-24-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 16891938)
What with all the shit Iv had with my sites over the past couple of months now I have problems with my car. Its throwing out white smoke. Had a compression test done and that was fine The mechanic is kinda baffled as to what the hell is causing it. Its not over heating there is no craked head, the valves and rings are fine as is the head gasket so he says. Another day in the garage with more hours looking to find the problem means more money for him

Just more expense and more fucking hassle. Iv realy had enough

I hate those days Halfpint. Just put thicker oil in it.
What year, what make? Maybe we can help you find the problem.

halfpint 02-24-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 16891982)
dont give up. ive been through a lot of shit... a LOT and i struggled to keep moving forward.

really blows when bad shit happens and especially when you have no control over it, but do what you can to stay on track or you will regret it for the rest of your life :2 cents:

yeah its just one thing after another Dont think Iv felt so down like this in a very long time but im sure things will get better..maybe

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16891990)
possible, what kind of car is it?

If its from the exhaust it shouldnt have anythign to do with heads.

Im no certified mechanic, but i dont think running lean would cause a white smoke. THats 98% oil issue. Meaning cylinders most likely. But you say the compression is fine.... hrmmm....

no clue without witnessing things myself :thumbsup

Its a 2L Celica GT-R

Yep this is why he cant understand whats causing it. He said the only other things could be transmisson oil geting into something or where Iv been running the car to lean its knackerd the cat. Its not losing water and the engine runs sweet with no knocks. Before he done the compression tests and had a look at the head he thought it was a blown gasket or cracked cylinders too... he is 99% sure its not

halfpint 02-24-2010 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16892014)
I hate those days Halfpint. Just put thicker oil in it.
What year, what make? Maybe we can help you find the problem.

I wouldent mind if it was just a week of bad luck but two months ..I think Iv sinned once to often and its payback time or something :(

BestXXXPorn 02-24-2010 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16891990)
possible, what kind of car is it?

If its from the exhaust it shouldnt have anythign to do with heads.

Im no certified mechanic, but i dont think running lean would cause a white smoke. THats 98% oil issue. Meaning cylinders most likely. But you say the compression is fine.... hrmmm....

no clue without witnessing things myself :thumbsup

That's not correct, you can have a head gasket leak that leaks in coolant and/or oil into your cylinders which would put all the smoke out the ass end of your car...

Does the smoke smell at all? It could be that a coolant channel is leaking into the head... or oil... a small leak will barely be noticeable on a compression test... a small leak can be within the boundaries of "ok"... White smoke is usually a coolant problem so I can almost guarantee you have a head gasket leak... it's probably just a small one. A tiny bit of coolant makes an enormous amount of smoke :P

Anyway, may I suggest a new mechanic? He should have tracked down the issue by now.

LeRoy 02-24-2010 03:19 PM

Either it's tits or tires.

Trouble with both at all times

GrouchyAdmin 02-24-2010 03:20 PM

White smoke when warming up is usually a blown turbo.

Scott McD 02-24-2010 03:21 PM

Any time i get car problems i just feel like trading the fucking thing in for a new one...

halfpint 02-24-2010 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 16892113)
That's not correct, you can have a head gasket leak that leaks in coolant and/or oil into your cylinders which would put all the smoke out the ass end of your car...

Does the smoke smell at all? It could be that a coolant channel is leaking into the head... or oil... a small leak will barely be noticeable on a compression test... a small leak can be within the boundaries of "ok"... White smoke is usually a coolant problem so I can almost guarantee you have a head gasket leak... it's probably just a small one. A tiny bit of coolant makes an enormous amount of smoke :P

Anyway, may I suggest a new mechanic? He should have tracked down the issue by now.

You could be right. I have used him for a a number of years and he is normaly very good.

TidalWave 02-24-2010 03:24 PM

if its just a cat, then dont worry about getting it fixed right now if u are short on cash

halfpint 02-24-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 16892164)
Any time i get car problems i just feel like trading the fucking thing in for a new one...

At this moment in time I feel like curling up and disapearing tbh

Helix 02-24-2010 03:25 PM

Automatic transmission fluid smokes white/light blue.
Check your transmission fluid level, if it's low suspect the shift vacuum module.
The module can tear inside and siphon your automatic transmission fluid from the case as a vapor into your intake manifold.
You can check it by pulling the vacuum line off of it and see if there is any transmission fluid in it.

halfpint 02-24-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TidalWave (Post 16892178)
if its just a cat, then dont worry about getting it fixed right now if u are short on cash

If its anything to do with the cat he said it would cost around £200.00 around ($400) to fix plus the labour which is no problem. If it turns out to be something else and its gonna cost over £1000 I wont bother getting it fixed I will just sell the car for spares or repairs and get another celica

ShellyCrash 02-24-2010 03:32 PM

That's what I hate about new cars. Old cars, pre computers, pre fuel injection, I can figure out almost anything on my own. On the buick I know what things are, I know where things are, and I know when someone is bullshitting me.

With the Navigator I open the hood and I can hardly find anything. It drives me absolutely up the wall. Something's always wrong with it and the dealership is always trying to fuck me. UGH!

I feel your pain. My gut says to check the head gaskets but I have no idea where they are located or what would need to be removed to make that happen, so you probably don't want to invest the labor just on a hunch. The majority of my auto exp comes from cars over 50 years old so may be completely irrelevant anyway, but they can start to go bad w/o being completely blown.

That's my two cents, sorry if it's not much help.

halfpint 02-24-2010 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helix (Post 16892187)
Automatic transmission fluid smokes white/light blue.
Check your transmission fluid level, if it's low suspect the shift vacuum module.
The module can tear inside and siphon your automatic transmission fluid from the case as a vapor into your intake manifold.
You can check it by pulling the vacuum line off of it and see if there is any transmission fluid in it.

Thanks... I guess that is what he will be checking tommorrow if he thinks its nothing to do with the gasket/head ...time will tell

Semi-Retired-Dave 02-24-2010 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 16892103)
I wouldent mind if it was just a week of bad luck but two months ..I think Iv sinned once to often and its payback time or something :(

Take a break, or a short weekend vacation. Get out of town for a few days.
If sinning was that bad. I would have no luck at all.

ShellyCrash 02-24-2010 03:36 PM

Also if you want to make sure what it's burning put your hand in the exhaust smoke for a few seconds and then smell it. That may sound a little archaic, but you should be able to tell for sure if it's oil.

CYF 02-24-2010 03:38 PM

running rich, with too much fuel can do white smoke also. What's the exhaust smell like?

halfpint 02-24-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16892219)
That's what I hate about new cars. Old cars, pre computers, pre fuel injection, I can figure out almost anything on my own. On the buick I know what things are, I know where things are, and I know when someone is bullshitting me.

With the Navigator I open the hood and I can hardly find anything. It drives me absolutely up the wall. Something's always wrong with it and the dealership is always trying to fuck me. UGH!

I feel your pain. My gut says to check the head gaskets but I have no idea where they are located or what would need to be removed to make that happen, so you probably don't want to invest the labor just on a hunch. The majority of my auto exp comes from cars over 50 years old so may be completely irrelevant anyway, but they can start to go bad w/o being completely blown.

That's my two cents, sorry if it's not much help.


Thanks ShellyCrash

Im sure he will find the problem eventually... Its just a pain in the ass when everything goes wrong all after each other. Im waiting to see what the next thing will be, to go bad on me now ..

halfpint 02-24-2010 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CYF (Post 16892251)
running rich, with too much fuel can do white smoke also. What's the exhaust smell like?

Not being funny here but I really dont know I havent got that close to it to smell it

halfpint 02-24-2010 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16892245)
Also if you want to make sure what it's burning put your hand in the exhaust smoke for a few seconds and then smell it. That may sound a little archaic, but you should be able to tell for sure if it's oil.

Thanks for that advice, I should have done that before I got the mechanic to pick it up. The car is still in the garage. Im just gonna wait until he rings me back tomorrow

Semi-Retired-Dave 02-24-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 16892268)
Not being funny here but I really dont know I havent got that close to it to smell it

Don't get too close and don't take too many sniffs. Especially with your current luck. :Oh crap

halfpint 02-24-2010 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16892241)
Take a break, or a short weekend vacation. Get out of town for a few days.
If sinning was that bad. I would have no luck at all.

That sounds like a good idea TBH. Its geting to the point where im snapping at my misses for stupid things and Im not normally like this. I guesss its stress

Dood 02-24-2010 03:56 PM

Smoke that is pure white usually means water is getting in a cylinder. When does it smoke, at start up or idle or under acceleration or all the time? Also does the smoke smell sweet like warm maple syrup? If so it's definitely coolant and most likely the head gasket.

halfpint 02-24-2010 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16892292)
Don't get too close and don't take too many sniffs. Especially with your current luck. :Oh crap

Yeah im not gonna do that knowing my luck, It will most prob blow a huge flame out or something

halfpint 02-24-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dood (Post 16892323)
Smoke that is pure white usually means water is getting in a cylinder. When does it smoke, at start up or idle or under acceleration or all the time? Also does the smoke smell sweet like warm maple syrup? If so it's definitely coolant and most likely the head gasket.

I think its more of a white-greyish smoke but the mechanic said it was more of a white - bluey smoke

L-Pink 02-24-2010 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 16892164)
Any time i get car problems i just feel like trading the fucking thing in for a new one...

Yea, my water pump just crapped out and will probably run over a grand to replace. But the truck is paid for so that eases the bite.


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CYF 02-24-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 16892336)
I think its more of a white-greyish smoke but the mechanic said it was more of a white - bluey smoke

blue smoke is usually oil.

bronco67 02-24-2010 04:15 PM

What year is that car? If its early to mid 90's, I would say "there's your problem".

brassmonkey 02-24-2010 05:34 PM

hmmmm http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_would...he_ta il_pipe

stickyfingerz 02-24-2010 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helix (Post 16892187)
Automatic transmission fluid smokes white/light blue.
Check your transmission fluid level, if it's low suspect the shift vacuum module.
The module can tear inside and siphon your automatic transmission fluid from the case as a vapor into your intake manifold.
You can check it by pulling the vacuum line off of it and see if there is any transmission fluid in it.

Beat me to it. :winkwink:

alias 02-24-2010 06:27 PM

Cheer up man!

kada 02-24-2010 07:02 PM

haha.. i didnt know we had lots of mechanics here.

MarcFromTheDarc 02-24-2010 08:14 PM

No shit....

the Shemp 02-24-2010 09:11 PM

does it idle rough ?

IllTestYourGirls 02-24-2010 09:13 PM

check your tran fluid

Farang 02-24-2010 09:21 PM

"My car broke down, my gf left me - I've had enough, I give up I give up"
Are you gonna kill yourself?

Waddymelon 02-24-2010 09:40 PM

Yeah do what Helix said, I had a Pontiac one time that was getting trans fluid into the engine, it smoked quite a bit until my uncle fixed it. He knew right what the problem was.

general rules for smoke -

white means coolant leak somewhere, into the combustion chamber. Usually a cracked head or a bad head gasket.

grey or blue-grey means oil is getting into the combustion chamber, either past the piston rings or thru the valve guides.

black means the air/fuel mixture is 'too rich'; meaning its getting too much fuel

Iron Fist 02-24-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kada (Post 16892842)
haha.. i didnt know we had lots of mechanics here.

You'd be amazed at how many experts we have here... that cover pretty much anything you can imagine... it's kind of hilarious. No wonder there's no money in porn... these experts are too busy trying to solve everyone else's problems....

alias 02-24-2010 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16893282)
You'd be amazed at how many experts we have here... that cover pretty much anything you can imagine... it's kind of hilarious. No wonder there's no money in porn... these experts are too busy trying to solve everyone else's problems....

Truth. :2 cents:

NetHorse 02-24-2010 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 16891938)
Another day in the garage with more hours looking to find the problem means more money for him

DUMP your mechanic, he should be charging you a flat rate to diagnose the problem. If he needs to spend more than one day diagnosing white smoke, (which can only be one of several problems) then he is incompetent and/or taking you for a ride.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 16892113)
or oil... a small leak will barely be noticeable on a compression test... a small leak can be within the boundaries of "ok"...

Oil will never create white smoke, either way he should have performed a leak down test.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waddymelon (Post 16893144)
white means coolant leak somewhere, into the combustion chamber. Usually a cracked head or a bad head gasket.

grey or blue-grey means oil is getting into the combustion chamber, either past the piston rings or thru the valve guides.

black means the air/fuel mixture is 'too rich'; meaning its getting too much fuel

Yup.

NetHorse 02-24-2010 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16893282)
You'd be amazed at how many experts we have here... that cover pretty much anything you can imagine... it's kind of hilarious. No wonder there's no money in porn... these experts are too busy trying to solve everyone else's problems....

If you don't have general automotive knowledge then you aren't a man. :1orglaugh

kada 02-25-2010 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16893282)
You'd be amazed at how many experts we have here... that cover pretty much anything you can imagine... it's kind of hilarious. No wonder there's no money in porn... these experts are too busy trying to solve everyone else's problems....

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

seeandsee 02-25-2010 10:35 AM

life is roulette

Hotrocket 02-25-2010 10:53 AM

its going to sound a bit silly but have recently changed your oil and filter? or added oil? if so drain it and replace the filter too..then make sure its filled to the proper level (checked on level ground with a warm engine) and not overfilled...too much oil in the pan can result in heavy white smoke. it could be this simple, I have seen this happen several times.


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