Sleazy: Refresher Course For Newbies, Please - WHY Does Everyone Rag On You So Much?
 

Personally, I find all the back-and-forth between Sleazy and, well, a shitload of others hilarious. But I have no history, I don't know WHY so many people rip on this guy. I've searched his posts, read his threads, seen his shitty sites and his nice sites (just like everyone else has, which 'proves' beauty/ugliness is the eye of the beholder) and I STILL cannot figure out why so many people say shit about (and directly to) Sleazy.

He seems like a helpful, decent sort. A bit delusional perhaps, but then again, perhaps not. I mean, like many others, I come here for the business and for the advice that leads to more moolah for moi, I don't "know" how successful someone is (or isn't). I do not come here to rip, or troll, or be a shit-stirrer or any of that, well, shite. But I realize many people do, and (in a weird way) it's what keeps GFY interesting. Everyone likes to watch the shit, once it's been stirred....

So please, Mr. Sleaze (E), start from the beginning: WHY do people fucking HATE you, man? :helpme

(others chime in here - for perspective's sake if no other)

see sig :thumbsup this could be a long one

GFY should charge $25 per year, for membership.

Cause when our humble Sleazy had cash he called everyone idiot and did the classic "Who are you again?"

But now as he is more or less broke...he tries to act like a standup guy!

PS. Sleazy, you know this is true.

I have friends who told me they wouldnt, or were basicly scared to, meet Sleazy because he was such a big a-hole on the boards. They however had theirselves prooved wrong.

Yes QFT
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yup Sleazy is a cool guy inperson :2 cents:

http://www.nametrader.com/youshittinme.jpg

Oh, and see sig.

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Wow i see lots of threads about him. He has lots of fans.

You must be talking about SleazyD and not me who is the original one. Because I have never seen myself as better than anyone else because of money. I never got an award for anything, and would never act like or kiss someones ass for one. The only reward which means the most to me, is a simple thank you.

Nope, talkin' 'bout SLEAZY.

Anyway, interesting people! So Sleazy, this true man? You were once like, 'fuck you, I got dough' but now you're like 'I like everyone - please help me'?

Interesting.

And I suspect most people, once you meet them in person, are, ya know, people. Heh - could be wrong there.

Sleazy is a GFY Superstar!
All I know him as the guy that used to give great interviews. What happened to that?

OK this spot is worth parking my ass right here.:winkwink:

its because hes from Canada and has a 6th toe. no one likes 6 toed Canadians... not even the Internet :winkwink:

I wasn't around when he was ballin, but he must of been rich enough to own a bar/club which he lost, but lately his threads seem to always revolve around the good old days, but I think things are pretty bleak for him right now.

I think GFY keeps him sane for the most part, which is kind of sad.

Wow, I hope that's not true, man - GFY keeping him sane. Wow. Sleazy - get OUT IN THE SUNSHINE MAN!! Does wonders for depression and the doldrums. Seriously, very hard to be depressed in the sunshine....

Ok, I get it - but what has he DONE? Site some examples of his supposed past douschebaggery, dickheadedness and/or cunt moves. So far it sounds like he's just some dude who posts a lot on GFY and people rag on him just because he's there. Like a sad, drunk ex-clown from the circus turned panhandler who hasn't taken his make-up off 'cause he still can con a few nickels outta scared little kid tourists' parents in his Bozo costume.

dude - you're starting to become one of my stalkers....

Sleazy helped me tremendously. He's got a huge heart and a great sense of humour. And he's Canadian, which helps. ;)

That said, he can be a total dick on the boards. Many people have been surprised when they meet him in person and see his milder side.

What has he done? He pisses people off. He's a dick on the boards. Maybe he's a jerk to a few others in real life, I don't know.

Sure, we all pine for the good ol' days. Remember when Lightspeed was giving rides in fighter jets at the Vegas show? That was good times. Now maybe it's more like work than the play it seemed ten years ago. Maybe all industries go through this maturation stage.

But, I digress. Sleazy is an unknown quantity on the boards. He may just be playing with you, looking for buttons to push. But he doesn't mean it (for the most part.) :)

No shit he's referring to SleazyDream and not you? You have 62 posts, he has 12,225 posts. And half of your posts are wondering why people are referring to him as Sleazy instead of you. :1orglaugh

actually it's closer to 32,000 - I had eric reset my post count a few years ago....

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

The reason I spark up when the word sleazy comes around, is because my biz is teaching newbies. I have been sleazy since the old days of ynot back in 95. It does cause confusion. Him and I have went around and around on this issue for years. Because of my employer I could not speak out against anyone on another board. Politics you could say. He swears up and down that he knew nothing about me and we never talked. Funny how he is on my icq list from years ago. I don't even use icq anymore. If you say its chopped fine, I have a go to my pc acount, I would be happy to let in anyone that is an admin to this board in to verify it.
http://tiplist.com/sbicq.gif

change your nick it's too confusing. huggybear or something.

you block me yet can't seem to help yourself from quoting me....

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I'm starting to think you're loosing your mind.

I came up with the name SleazyDream before I ever posted to GFY or any chat board. - jan 2000 or there abouts.....

RRRed then a couple years later was the first to coin the nickname "Sleazy" for me at internext - i'm guessing this was about 2002

I have no memory of ever speaking to you. I have heard of someone named SleazyBear before but no more than a couple of time thoughout the years.

saying I stole this from you is insane, just like your accusations on my trademark.

I don't have the word 'Sleazy' trademarked, I have 'SleazyDream' trademarked. That has nothing to do with you.

I don't even see how the terms SleazyBear and SleazyDream are related........

I have one question, when you sold porn link lists on ebay when you started. What was the nick you used.

honestly I can't remember.

It wasn't sleazydream if that is what you are asking.

I came up with the term sleazydream in my basement.

I knew I would not be able to get a one word url so I wrote down two lists of names related to adult. sleazy was on one side - along with about 15 other words, and dream was on the other - also with about 15 words. I put them together and when I came across SleazyDream I liked how it sounded and ran with that. there was no reference to the term in existence I could find at that time. It had nothing to do with you, I had no idea you existed or who you were when I did that - this was late dec 1999 or early jan 2000.

Here is where the problem comes in. I teach webmasters and newbies, that is my biz. When someone come looking for me, and they see the name Sleazy and they see all these why is Sleazy be a dick, or why is he hated, that can reflect on me. There is some great things said about you, by some good people. You have a lot of knowlege, your well respected by a lot of people. You may be a fantastic person in person, but people see you for you by what you post on a board. I am not following you, I am just clearing up, that I am not you. Because there is a lot of people that know me from many years as Sleazy.
As far as your trademark, your not even protecting it.
Here your a division of http://www.oxyg3ne.com/sleazydream/01.htm
and here your a search http://searchsleazydream.com/ and if you refresh enough times you will find adult links. Which is someone using your name. A violation of your trademark.

Oh please. I have no business dealings with Sleazy, or have I ever had and I saw through that. It was OBVIOUS it was an online act, people who took it all seriously deserved to be called IDIOTS ;).

I met him in Florida in 2003 and he was a very nice guy, even though his metallic business card cut my finger. (ie. He tried to kill me)

I think Rochard actually did the good ones. :1orglaugh

I have to hand it to you, you take narcissim and idiocy on an unforeseen apogee. I'd tell you to fuck off back to NP, but you'll get on your soap box about them for the next 3 months again.

yeah cause Sleazy is such a unique name for anyone in an adult industry to come up with. Wow!

Hey man..your obsession with Sleazy is getting out of hand..why are you trying so hard to become Sleazy? if u wanna be hated just act more tough'ish on the forums and people will get respect for ya..

But trying to steal a nick and gain fame is just absurd..:mad:

Excellent! I gain understanding from you, gorgeous lady. (Yes, I want sex with you big bad time, Ms. Flippity-Floppity Hottie, but that's another post altogether...)

It's funny how people can have 'two identities' - a real life one and one for their online personas. I try to be the same all the time but maybe that's delusional, too. LOL

Interesting 'war' between Sleazy and SleazyBear. I would imagine that anyone - anyone - who has anything AFTER the word 'sleazy' in their nick would end the confusion. I mean, SleazyDREAM ain't the same as SleazyBEAR. But what do I know? Ain't no other 'Mister Peabodys' out there....heh.

Hey Sleazybear - you banned me from NP awhile back when all the shit was hitting the fan with people leaving and cursing NP and being generally dissatisfied, all because I made some stupid one-line JOKE to a newbie who just joined the board. So, you know, fuck you. LOL How's NP doing these days? Looks like a ghost-town beat-ass board to me now. Hope you had the good sense to leave there (and I would totally start using an online dictionary and spell-checker, too, if I were you bro - WOW you write Engish like a drunk Korean.)

Really? I thought your biz was enabling scammers like Aga to rip off their affiliates by banning people from NP for posting about the fact he stopped paying.

95? Isn't that two years before the domain was registered?


I would love you to point out an actual newbie / person that confused you two on a forum, when you're using different names. I would love to see if that person is still a Webmaster today.

Nobody, ever, not once, 'confused' TheDoc for Dokk online, but in person it has happened when the person doesn't know either of us.

Rochard did some GREAT interviews. He was amazing

shhhhhhhhhhhh, let them have their fantasy. :2 cents:

http://www.oxyg3ne.com/sleazydream/01.htm
interesting site - i've never seen that before. cool music.

my trademark is specific to online adult entertainment. it would not cover music so that would be ok. i liked the music too. I found about about a rock band called sleazydream too a few years ago (i actually think they named it after my site liking the name)

i've enforced the trademark many times over the years. if a site is infringing and has no traffic it's not worth my time to go after it though.. so why bother as no traffic means no effect on my business. I can go after it, but my time is better spent elsewhere. I do enforce it when their commerce effects my business

sleazydream is an asshole and his misfortunes are deserved

Men lie, women lie: numbers don't.

I've called half of you webmasters sleazy behind your backs so to see two grown men arguing over the name is pretty funny.

I think SB is just upset that he got roped in to NP instead of GFY so his audience was mainly eastern EU who had problems with English. That is the only way anyone might confuse SB with SD.

I wonder if they have a license to use Martina's image.