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  • rowan
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Mar 2002
    • 17393

    #1

    Googlebot... how arrogant can they be?

    Google ignores crawl-delay in robots.txt. Instead, they force you to register your site in webmaster tools, so you can set a custom crawl rate. This is then RESET to the default after 90 days, so at that time you have to login again and change it again! How fucking arrogant is that?

    Other search engines respect crawl-delay, imagine if they all wanted us to create accounts and login every 90 days to stop their bots hammering our servers?
  • Agent 488
    Registered User
    • Feb 2006
    • 22511

    #2
    yeah that damn google bot racking up bandwidth.

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    • 2012
      So Fucking What
      • Jul 2006
      • 17189

      #3
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      • rowan
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Mar 2002
        • 17393

        #4
        Originally posted by Agent 488
        yeah that damn google bot racking up bandwidth.
        Server load, actually. They're hitting me 120k times a day.

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        • rowan
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Mar 2002
          • 17393

          #5
          And the point isn't so much what they're doing specifically to my site, more that they're arrogant enough to ignore (defacto?) robots.txt settings that every other major search engine bot respects. The webmaster dashboard robots.txt checker even helpfully points out that each of the crawl-delay lines in my robots.txt are ignored!

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          • ColetteX
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jun 2004
            • 539

            #6
            so google bots are ignoring crawl delay? i have delays as i am updating my sites, i dont want to see google every day on site that i am updating weekly. if crawl delay do not work, it is really sick cause 6 days from week google see my site as static not updated. oh snap

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            • rowan
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Mar 2002
              • 17393

              #7
              Originally posted by ColetteX
              so google bots are ignoring crawl delay? i have delays as i am updating my sites, i dont want to see google every day on site that i am updating weekly. if crawl delay do not work, it is really sick cause 6 days from week google see my site as static not updated. oh snap
              Crawl-delay is related to how fast a bot hits your site if it has multiple pages, not how long it will wait between refetching the same page.

              http://www.google.com/support/webmas...n&answer=48620

              My site has 200 million pages so technically googlebot isn't fetching fast enough... at the rate of 120k fetches per day it would take 4 1/2 years to index everything. At this point the benefit of indexing 100% of the site (or at least as much as it's trying to) isn't worth the load it's placing on the server.

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              • ColetteX
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jun 2004
                • 539

                #8
                Originally posted by rowan
                Crawl-delay is related to how fast a bot hits your site if it has multiple pages, not how long it will wait between refetching the same page.

                http://www.google.com/support/webmas...n&answer=48620

                My site has 200 million pages so technically googlebot isn't fetching fast enough... at the rate of 120k fetches per day it would take 4 1/2 years to index everything. At this point the benefit of indexing 100% of the site (or at least as much as it's trying to) isn't worth the load it's placing on the server.
                thank you man, there is still much to learn. bump for your answer

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                • woj
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 47880

                  #9
                  User-agent: Googlebot
                  Disallow: /

                  problem solved
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                  • rowan
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 17393

                    #10
                    Originally posted by woj
                    User-agent: Googlebot
                    Disallow: /

                    problem solved
                    I was waiting for it. I'm surprised this "solution" wasn't posted sooner.

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                    • CunningStunt
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 5594

                      #11
                      Originally posted by woj
                      User-agent: Googlebot
                      Disallow: /

                      problem solved


                      To the OP - agreed. The trouble is, they can do what the hell they want with over 70% of the search market.

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                      • MrMaxwell
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 10057

                        #12
                        What kind of site has 200,000,000 pages?
                        That's alot of pages

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                        • Adam_M
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 3800

                          #13
                          Originally posted by woj
                          User-agent: Googlebot
                          Disallow: /

                          problem solved
                          I wish everyone would just do this!
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                          • Cyber Fucker
                            Hmm
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 12642

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Adam_WildCash
                            I wish everyone would just do this!
                            Lol

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                            • fatfoo
                              ICQ:649699063
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 27763

                              #15
                              They can be very arrogant.
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                              • Waddymelon
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 17349

                                #16
                                Annoying isnt it? I've had googlebot hit my servers up to 15 times per second, for hours at a time. Dynamic pages really make googlebot go nuts.

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                                • u-Bob
                                  there's no $$$ in porn
                                  • Jul 2005
                                  • 33063

                                  #17
                                  They're evil, plain and simple....

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                                  • StrokeKing
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2008
                                    • 232

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Waddymelon
                                    Annoying isnt it? I've had googlebot hit my servers up to 15 times per second, for hours at a time. Dynamic pages really make googlebot go nuts.
                                    15times in a second?! really annoying! well its a smart idea to disallow the googlebot.. thanks for the advice guys.
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                                    • czarina
                                      Webmaster Extraordinaire
                                      • Jul 2002
                                      • 10751

                                      #19
                                      woj's solution is good if you want to keep googlebot off your site completely. But are you sure you want to do that?

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                                      • epitome
                                        So Fucking Lame
                                        • Jun 2009
                                        • 12156

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by MrMaxwell
                                        What kind of site has 200,000,000 pages?
                                        That's alot of pages
                                        Google.

                                        Rowan actually founded Google and he's frustrated because his baby is stuck in a loop.

                                        Even as the founder, he cannot get support at Google and has to do the same thing as the rest of us.

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                                        • Dirty Dane
                                          Sick Fuck
                                          • Feb 2004
                                          • 9491

                                          #21
                                          Sue them.

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                                          • rowan
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Mar 2002
                                            • 17393

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by epitome
                                            Google.

                                            Rowan actually founded Google and he's frustrated because his baby is stuck in a loop.

                                            Even as the founder, he cannot get support at Google and has to do the same thing as the rest of us.


                                            Yeah, I got pushed out by The Man! Fuck them!

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                                            • papill0n
                                              Unregistered Abuser
                                              • Oct 2007
                                              • 15547

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by StrokeKing
                                              15times in a second?! really annoying! well its a smart idea to disallow the googlebot.. thanks for the advice guys.

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                                              • MrMaxwell
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jul 2005
                                                • 10057

                                                #24
                                                What kind of site has 200,000,000 pages?

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                                                • rowan
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                  • 17393

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by MrMaxwell
                                                  What kind of site has 200,000,000 pages?
                                                  Think of something on the net that there might be 200,000,000 of to profile.

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                                                  • raymor
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 3745

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by rowan
                                                    My site has 200 million pages so technically googlebot isn't fetching fast enough... at the rate of 120k fetches per day it would take 4 1/2 years to index everything. At this point the benefit of indexing 100% of the site (or at least as much as it's trying to) isn't worth the load it's placing on the server.
                                                    200 MILLION pages? I'm curious, is that 200 million legitimate pages, or 200 million
                                                    pieces of fake SE spam crap? If you tried to spam the crap out of Google by creating
                                                    200 million bogus pages, I'd say you got what you deserved, and really what you
                                                    asked for. If you pretended to have 200 million pages so that Google would spider
                                                    you 200 million times, that was your decision. You can't blame Google if you chose to
                                                    create fake stuff for them to spider.

                                                    Note the repeated use of "IF" - I'm asking IF that's what you did.
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                                                    • tiger
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                      • 6986

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by woj
                                                      User-agent: Googlebot
                                                      Disallow: /

                                                      problem solved


                                                      Yeah I was wondering when someone would post this.

                                                      Bottom line is, if its causing you more problems then its worth just block it. If they are hitting you that hard you should be getting some good traffic because of it, more traffic = more money, Just upgrade the servers.

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                                                      • DamnGoodRatio
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                        • 855

                                                        #28
                                                        I return a 503 page and they seem to respect that. Then I set it so they can crawl during my off peak loads which they seem to do.
                                                        Should work and I know this is documented somewhere on Google's FAQ just can't seem to find the link right now.
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                                                        • rowan
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                          • 17393

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by DamnGoodRatio
                                                          I return a 503 page and they seem to respect that. Then I set it so they can crawl during my off peak loads which they seem to do.
                                                          Should work and I know this is documented somewhere on Google's FAQ just can't seem to find the link right now.
                                                          I've noticed that a connection or server error will make G-bot back right off, but I'm concerned that doing this routinely might affect my rank. I've seen recent articles saying that site response time may become a factor in the future.

                                                          raymor: not useless spam, it's all genuine profiling of... domains.

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                                                          • rowan
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                            • 17393

                                                            #30
                                                            February 22, 2010

                                                            New crawl rate: Custom rate

                                                            1.000 requests per second

                                                            1.000 seconds per request

                                                            This new crawl rate will stay in effect for 90 days.


                                                            Funny, 2 weeks later googlebot is still requesting 120k+ pages per day, which is about 150% the rate of the above setting.

                                                            Their webmaster tools system also sent me a notification encouraging me to increase the rate so they can fetch more pages. Looks like their bot is doing it anyway.

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                                                            • seeandsee
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                                                              • Mar 2006
                                                              • 50945

                                                              #31
                                                              bad bad google
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