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kane 02-17-2010 11:50 PM

Los Angeles county high school graduation rate - 61%
 
I just saw this on CNN. http://www.countyhealthrankings.org

You can go there and they will rank you country within your state for overall health. I was looking at my county and saw that the high school graduation rate was 75%. That seemed awful to me so I looked at a few other places. LA county is at 61%, Seattle is at 77%, Chicago is at 61%, Pittsburgh is at 83%. Miami is at 54%.

Some pretty scary numbers. You look at some of these numbers an see the future of this country slowly winding down the toilet bowl.

EscortBiz 02-17-2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 16861321)
I just saw this on CNN. http://www.countyhealthrankings.org

You can go there and they will rank you country within your state for overall health. I was looking at my county and saw that the high school graduation rate was 75%. That seemed awful to me so I looked at a few other places. LA county is at 61%, Seattle is at 77%, Chicago is at 61%, Pittsburgh is at 83%. Miami is at 54%.

Some pretty scary numbers. You look at some of these numbers an see the future of this country slowly winding down the toilet bowl.

that is shocking numbers, anyway to see how it was say in 1995? I was looking online couldnt fine that data

MikesTraffic 02-17-2010 11:56 PM

fuck, montgomery, alabama is only 49% lol...no wonder I feel like I am surrounded by idiots

AaronM 02-17-2010 11:58 PM

"Guess the race" should be added to the thread title. :2 cents:

AaronM 02-17-2010 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MikesTraffic (Post 16861328)
fuck, montgomery, alabama is only 49% lol...no wonder I feel like I am surrounded by idiots


Inbreeding.

kane 02-18-2010 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MikesTraffic (Post 16861328)
fuck, montgomery, alabama is only 49% lol...no wonder I feel like I am surrounded by idiots

Damn, that is low. That amazes me.

kane 02-18-2010 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16861326)
that is shocking numbers, anyway to see how it was say in 1995? I was looking online couldnt fine that data

I would like to see that too. I'm interested to see if it has changed much. It seems to me, and maybe I'm just misunderstanding the system, that it is easier to graduate now than it was 20 years ago. My nephew is in high school and his freshman year he took 15 classes (5 per trimester) and failed 10 of them. He only had to make one of them up. He failed another 4 his sophomore year and yet they tell him he is on target to graduate without making them up or going to summer school.

When I was in high school in the 80's. If you failed any core class you had to retake it. You could fail a few electives and still graduate, but the number was maybe 1 per year. If you failed more than 4-5 classes total over the 4 years of high school you were not graduating unless you made them up.

96ukssob 02-18-2010 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MikesTraffic (Post 16861328)
fuck, montgomery, alabama is only 49% lol...no wonder I feel like I am surrounded by idiots

think thats bad, look at the 25% rate in St. Bernard Louisiana

http://content.screencast.com/users/...02-18_0258.png

OUCH!

edit: NO WAY! Orleans has a 13%? WOW http://www.countyhealthrankings.org/louisiana/orleans

tiger 02-18-2010 01:29 AM

Health care and education are just becoming sad, nothing else to say.

MrMaxwell 02-18-2010 01:32 AM

The classes are exceedingly easy compared to what they were a few decades ago
It's just insane

kane 02-18-2010 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 16861397)
think thats bad, look at the 25% rate in St. Bernard Louisiana

http://content.screencast.com/users/...02-18_0258.png

OUCH!

edit: NO WAY! Orleans has a 13%? WOW http://www.countyhealthrankings.org/louisiana/orleans

Check out the third column on that page. That is the graduation rate for the entire state and it is 60%. Pretty sad.

$5 submissions 02-18-2010 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 16861397)
think thats bad, look at the 25% rate in St. Bernard Louisiana

http://content.screencast.com/users/...02-18_0258.png

OUCH!

edit: NO WAY! Orleans has a 13%? WOW http://www.countyhealthrankings.org/louisiana/orleans

Whoa!:Oh crap

CarlosTheGaucho 02-18-2010 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MikesTraffic (Post 16861328)
fuck, montgomery, alabama is only 49% lol...no wonder I feel like I am surrounded by idiots

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pretty sad actually

BlackCrayon 02-18-2010 06:19 AM

political correctness is killing the country. even here in canada kids who can't read are graduating because people think it will hurt their self esteem to be held back....

PastorSinAlot 02-18-2010 06:27 AM

little wayne was right, need to focus over here

Voodoo 02-18-2010 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 16861756)
political correctness is killing the country. even here in canada kids who can't read are graduating because people think it will hurt their self esteem to be held back....

http://comedyisgood.com/photos/mexicans.jpg

John-ACWM 02-18-2010 06:30 AM

Too many temptations for the kids nowadays. And stupidity.

VikingMan 02-18-2010 08:38 AM

The public schools here in LA are packed with little mongrels. I used to live in a nice area of Seattle and would smile as I drove by the schools as all the cute little kids were walking around. When I drive by a school in LA it makes me think I am in some third world hell hole :(:(:(:(

IllTestYourGirls 02-18-2010 08:48 AM

Why get an education when you can just go on welfare?

smax 02-18-2010 08:59 AM

Its sad that a large segment of our society puts no value in education and it makes me weep for our future

L-Pink 02-18-2010 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16862151)
Why get an education when you can just go on welfare?

Aren't there time limits on welfare now?


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EdgeXXX 02-18-2010 09:02 AM

Sad but certainly not surprising.

IllTestYourGirls 02-18-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 16862201)
Aren't there time limits on welfare now?


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I dont know is there? Just googled it guess there is, 5 years, but with a lot of loopholes.

L-Pink 02-18-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16862240)
I dont know is there? Just googled it guess there is, 5 years, but with a lot of loopholes.

"children" is probably one of the loopholes.


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Tom_PM 02-18-2010 09:18 AM

Education funding is kept low to keep the votes stupid and maleable.

96ukssob 02-18-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ******* (Post 16862109)
The public schools here in LA are packed with little mongrels. I used to live in a nice area of Seattle and would smile as I drove by the schools as all the cute little kids were walking around. When I drive by a school in LA it makes me think I am in some third world hell hole :(:(:(:(

unless you have the money to go to a nice school, your pretty much fucked. my ex used to be a teacher at a private school in Culver City and a lot of the teachers there came from the public school system and said they would not give two shits about the school or kids, it was just a paycheck.

IllTestYourGirls 02-18-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 16862247)
"children" is probably one of the loopholes.


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Yeah and food stamps and other forms of assistance can be life time. All new to me. But there doesn't seem to be a lack of websites on the subject :1orglaugh

IllTestYourGirls 02-18-2010 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16862258)
Education funding is kept low to keep the votes stupid and maleable.

You're kidding right? Education funding is so bloated its unreal. Bush out spent Clinton many times over.

Kevin Cunningham 02-18-2010 09:34 AM

hey, that's more than half. heard recently only 1 out of 3 americans are using a computer.

easyBob 02-18-2010 09:54 AM

Did anyone see the Error Margin column? Some as high as 8%... I wouldn't put too much stock into that site.

Srsly: countyhealthrankings.org/virginia/fairfax

Barefootsies 02-18-2010 10:10 AM

Looking at some of the numbers, especially pollution, for around here in S.W. Michigan is concerning compared to the rest of the state.

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Air pollution-particulate matter days 5 0 3
Air pollution-ozone days 11 0 4
:disgust

Tom_PM 02-18-2010 10:11 AM

If I give 2 cents and the previous guy spent 1 cent, I doubled his spending. And it was still pathetically low.

VikingMan 02-18-2010 10:11 AM

I wonder if the average person outside of the reach of our local LA news even knows about all the mexican vs black gang wars that happen inside schools? How about the gang rape of a young student just outside a high school homecoming dance in the Bay Area? Everyone just stood around and watched. Only after several attacks did a standerby call 911.

Can you imagine sending your kid to spend 5 days a week with these (insert your own word) ? How the hell are kids in that school going to end up knowing basics just to be able to function in life?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/1..._n_334975.html

pornguy 02-18-2010 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 16861321)
I just saw this on CNN. http://www.countyhealthrankings.org

You can go there and they will rank you country within your state for overall health. I was looking at my county and saw that the high school graduation rate was 75%. That seemed awful to me so I looked at a few other places. LA county is at 61%, Seattle is at 77%, Chicago is at 61%, Pittsburgh is at 83%. Miami is at 54%.

Some pretty scary numbers. You look at some of these numbers an see the future of this country slowly winding down the toilet bowl.

And now some asshat in the mid west has decided we should make 12th grade optional

EdgeXXX 02-18-2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16862470)
If I give 2 cents and the previous guy spent 1 cent, I doubled his spending. And it was still pathetically low.

Realistically, we could throw an unlimited amount of money at the educational system and there would still be no shortages of dumbasses in this country. If you want to blame someone, blame the current societal standards.

Matt 26z 02-18-2010 11:08 AM

Black leaders blame droput rates on a lack of school funding.

But the fact is, you could switch the students in Beverly Hills High with those in an inner city school and the dropout rates will switch schools with them.

The apple does not fall far from the tree. These kids failing out of high school just come from stupid parents, and it makes no sense to throw extra school funding their way.

2012 02-18-2010 11:08 AM

I always thought the Los Angeles County public school system was top notch .... shocking :smilie_we what do they expect -- nobody gives a shit not even the teachers- god doesn't even care

Tom_PM 02-18-2010 11:14 AM

Agreed that money alone is not the solution to anything. First there has to be a desire to improve things. And before that, there'd have to be an agreement that there is a problem. Maybe we're not there yet.

Hawkeye 02-18-2010 11:21 AM

The more the government spends on education, the worse it gets.

What we need to do is completely privatize our nation's education system.

mikesinner 02-18-2010 11:37 AM

Check out mine.
http://www.countyhealthrankings.org/indiana/vanderburgh

IllTestYourGirls 02-18-2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16862692)
Agreed that money alone is not the solution to anything. First there has to be a desire to improve things. And before that, there'd have to be an agreement that there is a problem. Maybe we're not there yet.

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye (Post 16862714)
The more the government spends on education, the worse it gets.

What we need to do is completely privatize our nation's education system.

These. The problem is the more the school fails the more people want to fund them.

kane 02-18-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 16862496)
And now some asshat in the mid west has decided we should make 12th grade optional

I saw him on CNN the other day and I think I might agree with him. Basically, what he was saying is that if you have enough credits and have finished the required classes by the end of your junior year you should be allowed to graduate early and that they will actually give you some grant money for college if you do. During the interview I saw with him he said he felt around 25% of the students out there could qualify for this and that for those student their senior year was just going to be a waste of time where they took non-essential classes and basically slacked off not learning much of anything.

Looking back on it, I can see myself in that situation. My senior year I had to pass English and Government and I would have enough credits to graduate. For most of the year I had work study because I had a part time job I got credit for so I got to leave early. So I would go to school and take English and Government then I had two elective classes then lunch and my day was over. So normally I left after 4th period, unless I wanted to hang with my friends during lunch. I skipped a lot, didn't pay much attention and was more interested in getting out of there than I was focusing. I passed my two classes with ease and my electives were laughable. Had I been given the option of taking those classes as electives earlier in high school and skipping my senior year, I would have for sure.

Obviously his plan isn't for everyone, but for ambitious students I don't see why we waste the money holding them back when we could let them advance themselves and use that money to focus on the other students that need it.

kane 02-18-2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16862470)
If I give 2 cents and the previous guy spent 1 cent, I doubled his spending. And it was still pathetically low.

It looks like about 12.8% of the federal budget or 46.7 billion goes to education each year. That is just federal money. In the state I live in around 40 cents of every tax dollar goes to education. I just read that the entire state budget for my state will be around 14.6 billion and 6 billion of that will go to education.

One of the main problems with the system is that it has become so bloated with people that do nothing to improve the value of the kids education that it is pathetic.

When I went to high school we had a principle, a vice principle, four guidance counselors and teachers. There were other staff secretaries, a nurse and a couple other people, but not many extras. Now, at that same school, they have a principle, a vice principle, a dean of students, an assistant dean of students, another person who just handles disciple, there are career guidance counselors as well as emotional guidance counselors, teachers aids and a handful of other obscure people who get paid well and don't seem to do much.

So for this school alone there are a ton of administrators who get paid very well, but really have nothing to do with the students education. They could get rid of almost all of them, use that money to hire new teachers and cut the class sizes down, but I guess that would be too easy.

A ton of money gets spent on education, they just spend it so poorly. I think there needs to be a full revamp of the system. However, I do think that if they fully revamp the system and spend money wisely and determine that we need to spend more to modernize our education system and make it top notch, that is money that we have to spend.

marcop 02-18-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 16862669)
I always thought the Los Angeles County public school system was top notch .... shocking :smilie_we what do they expect -- nobody gives a shit not even the teachers- god doesn't even care

61%..? I'm surprised it's that high.

Tom_PM 02-18-2010 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 16863156)
It looks like about 12.8% of the federal budget or 46.7 billion goes to education each year. That is just federal money. In the state I live in around 40 cents of every tax dollar goes to education. I just read that the entire state budget for my state will be around 14.6 billion and 6 billion of that will go to education.

One of the main problems with the system is that it has become so bloated with people that do nothing to improve the value of the kids education that it is pathetic.

When I went to high school we had a principle, a vice principle, four guidance counselors and teachers. There were other staff secretaries, a nurse and a couple other people, but not many extras. Now, at that same school, they have a principle, a vice principle, a dean of students, an assistant dean of students, another person who just handles disciple, there are career guidance counselors as well as emotional guidance counselors, teachers aids and a handful of other obscure people who get paid well and don't seem to do much.

So for this school alone there are a ton of administrators who get paid very well, but really have nothing to do with the students education. They could get rid of almost all of them, use that money to hire new teachers and cut the class sizes down, but I guess that would be too easy.

A ton of money gets spent on education, they just spend it so poorly. I think there needs to be a full revamp of the system. However, I do think that if they fully revamp the system and spend money wisely and determine that we need to spend more to modernize our education system and make it top notch, that is money that we have to spend.

Yeah that all makes sense. I also remember it like you do. They added a wandering security guard when I was in high school to try to bust kids smoking and leaving or returning to school grounds during the school day. He was super easy to avoid, lol.

Just the other day it was decided to close one of the elementary schools right near me. There's just no money to fund it anymore! Yeah right! It's all just wasted. Population growing+closing a school=cant be good. Not only is so much coming from taxes, but they also claim that the state lottery takes in money for education! It's just a load of shit. Some fatasses somewhere are laughing it up with all that cash while the kids stay mentally challenged, and not in a good way.


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