Interesting about Shaving..
 

..Should not really be about who shaves, but who doesn't..

:321GFYFuck the bastards stealing our traffic and money by shaving, lets hear about the honest sponsors in this buizz..

Someone here must know sponsors that they know 100% sure does not shave.. so lets hear about it.. Who are they ?


:uhoh ..oO(Hmm..wonder if there will be any reply to this tread or that 100% sure think was to hard)

The best sposors are............

YOURSELF..... start your own program. Would you shave from yourself?:Graucho :Graucho

thats a lot of peoples problems...some people just arent ready to run 1 paysite let alone a program...Every motherfucker has a program now its getting ridiculous

Nope.. But it wouldn't be much fun using my 5 credit cards on my own sites eighter would it *LOL*

Idea is great though.. I'm just 100.000 pics and a few 1.000 movieclips short right now :(

ARS never shaves.

100% guaranteed.

Thanks LUCL0NELY, Knew there must be at least one :)



Is that Realy all we have...One sponsor who never shaves ??

Kinda sad :(

im just curious. How can you be 100% certain a sponsor doesnt shave? I can sit here and tell you all day long that i dont shave.. do you believe me? probably not.. so wtf is the point of this? I dont shave, but nobody is gonna believe that just because i say it. I guess what im saying is.. is that you need to try a bunch of programs out and see what works best for YOU.. and even then you still can not be 100% sure they arent skimming you.

Guess you can never be 100% sure, but you can allways have a good idea if the shave or not can't you ?

And no.. I probably would not belive you, but if 10 or 20 other webmasters stood up for you and agread that you did not shave, then i probably would, and thats kinda my idea with the tread.. there's loads of webmasters on this board who have allready tried lots and lots of the programs, so why should we all try 20 programs for each time we need one good program ? dosn't realy make any sence to me to keep feeding the shavers with trafic just to see if they shave.. I'd much rather send my trafic to good sponsors then, to test how they convert..

Hope that made any sence ?:)

it made perfect sence.

but look at ars... most popular program on the web.. and also the most inconsistent.. what does that tell you?

http://www.sexpromote.com never ever shaves.
Webmaster gets credit for 100% of sales

Not saying that you do.. But how then can you afford to pay $45 per signup when it seems that noone else can without shawing ?

As a sponsor your kinda suposed to say that you don't, but Can you also prove that you don't ?
:)

... programs that don´t shave have no need to tell that they don´t ...

Our program sends you an email automatically the moment you get a sale with the order details and total purchase amount. That way you can always keep track of your stats on your own to cross-check your online stats. It's impossible for us to shave because you have a paper reference of all transactions.

Peeww.. Hoped it did :)

I have used ARS very little so far.. but yes, they seem fair to my knowledge.. Is that the common oppinion about them..? In that case it looks like we might have found our first reliable sponsor :)
But there must be more than ARS out there beeing decent sponsors, Right ?

Good point funkmaster.. Allthough, If I was the one decent sponsor and all the others shaved, I still think I would try to make clear that I didn't shave... Only problem beeing that the sponsors shaving would say the exact same thing *LOL*

Hmm.. That's good offcourse.. but not quite sure how will that guarantee me not beeing shaved..?
As i see it, I would just get fewer emails if you shaved, wouldn't I ?:eek7

With StoriesTraffic you log directly into the CC processors secure area. They track all sales directly, they do not get processed thru a 3rd party script anywhere.

Which is why the program pays a legit $25 to $33 on all trial sales...

what about CCBill.... if they are tracking your signups. How can the webmaster shave?

If the program is hot they can shave. But if they are not converting and they shave they just lose the last of their webmasters. So are we sure they all shave? These programs all have employees and have any come out and said my boss is ripping you off?

I was actualy about to signup to your program for my story sites, so if i do I sure hope your not shaving :)

I'm not too tecnical.. But my thinking is that basicly any script you use you can set up to show what you program it to, thus putting in a shave if you like..?
Any tec guys wan't to enlighten me on this.. Is StoryTraffic's way of doing it any security for not shaving..?

I figured you would ask that. With our software, it's not possible to tell it to only send out a certain percentage of emails. Any order that comes through your webmaster link is registered. We tell our software to either turn affiliate email notification on or off, there is no in-between. Either send an email notification when an order is placed or don't send one at all. So if you get one, you'll get them all.

On a side note, I never understood shaving. Why bite the hand that feeds you? I guess it's different for us than for a content provider. They pay on free trials, which gets expensive when someone doesn't renew. Since we pay sales commissions, we have no reason to shave since we're getting paid. I ran an affiliate program for a mainstream product at a large company for a couple years. We had thousands of affiliates and not once did we shave anything. You never really heard about it happening either, just in the adult biz. But I guess what can you expect sometimes when someone is paying you $50 to make $3.

I shave myself everyday.