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joker_boy 02-04-2010 11:17 AM

Whats up with toon niche?!!
 
http://www.wowdesigner.com/samples/wtf.jpg

WHAT IS GOING ON WITH TOON NICHE?!!

I've been drawing exclusive pics for different clients more than 8 years.
Different people bought my pics during this time period.
It was no problem finding buyers, cause I always make quality stuff.

I always setup the best price for exclusive pics.
My regular customers also get exclusive discounts.

What is the reason for tough selling of toons for the last 6 months?
Can anyone tell me?

I still have a lot of pics for sale:
sell-and-buy-forum/927072-bleach-stylized-hq-content-sale.html
sell-and-buy-forum/949171-toon-sets-sale-sale-sale.html
fucking-around-and-business-discussion/934321-gonna-love.html
and my permanent topic is:
sell-and-buy-forum/912286-exclusive-toon-content-production.html

Topbuxom Lea 02-04-2010 12:48 PM

Dude,

Our Prez emailed you on the 22nd inquiring about acquiring some of your content and never heard back. Are u checking email?

hit me up-

-L
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Loki 02-04-2010 12:56 PM

Just my 2cents but.....

I would say your main prob is your prices.

you would be MUCH better off ditching the exclusive model and offering the content to multiple buyers for a much cheaper price, end of the day you'll make the same money or more!

It boils down to the buyers 'getting the most bang for their buck'

And in the toon market that is even more true...

When you offer 35 photo sets for $6k that's just insane, when they can buy non-exlusive content for $500 for the same amount of content.

These days people just won't pay insane prices for content, they want it cheap or they just won't buy.

Now is the time for hand drawn producers to take another look at their market and adjust to meet their customer's needs/wants/expectations.

-Loki-

harvey 02-04-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdc-Loki (Post 16813011)
Just my 2cents but.....

I would say your main prob is your prices.

you would be MUCH better off ditching the exclusive model and offering the content to multiple buyers for a much cheaper price, end of the day you'll make the same money or more!

It boils down to the buyers 'getting the most bang for their buck'

And in the toon market that is even more true...

When you offer 35 photo sets for $6k that's just insane, when they can buy non-exlusive content for $500 for the same amount of content.

These days people just won't pay insane prices for content, they want it cheap or they just won't buy.

Now is the time for hand drawn producers to take another look at their market and adjust to meet their customer's needs/wants/expectations.

-Loki-

+1 and all that shit.

I see full sites with some income being sold at that price, and you're asking for $6000+ for just 35 sets. Not saying you don't deserve it, you have nice work there, but really don't see many chances of it happening. And as you may see yourself, it isn't happening at all, all you'll get is "nice stuff" comments, but I doubt those comments will feed anything other than your ego, so try to find a business model that works for you and work from there.

Loki 02-04-2010 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey (Post 16813090)
+1 and all that shit.

I see full sites with some income being sold at that price, and you're asking for $6000+ for just 35 sets. Not saying you don't deserve it, you have nice work there, but really don't see many chances of it happening. And as you may see yourself, it isn't happening at all, all you'll get is "nice stuff" comments, but I doubt those comments will feed anything other than your ego, so try to find a business model that works for you and work from there.

It's not a question of "is it worth it or not" the toon market has changed DRAMATICALLY over the past 10 years take the 3D Toon market for example...

in 1998 a single image was selling for $10 to even $20 each but that was pretty much only due to the fact that the content was so rare and so the price gouging was in full effect,

Now 12 years later that content is much more common and there are also more artists getting into producing the content, so these days myself and most other 3D Toon producers sell packages of 30-40 sets (30 images per set) for around $500 - $800 bucks

The same has happend with SOME of the traditional hand drawn artists, BUT the rest of them are honestly looking at their business model wrong.

They see a graphics designer sell a single toon image for upwards to $250 (for a logo) so they assume that the prices they are setting are 'so much lower then those other guys'

They totally fail to realize that they are selling something that is NOT a logo, brand, mascot or whatever else you want to call it, THOSE are a company or site's BRAND and will always cost more then actual content.

-Loki-

joker_boy 02-05-2010 12:48 PM

Thanks guys! I realy appriciate your comments and advice.
I'm kind of used to setting such prices because I've been selling only exclusive content ever since I started in this business, and that was because my customers wanted exclusive stuff only and were ready to part with that much money.
I guess it's really time to change my business model.
Thanks again!

_Richard_ 02-05-2010 01:00 PM

you have some great content

joker_boy 02-05-2010 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 16816558)
you have some great content

Thank you. :)

Rover 02-06-2010 04:20 AM

what is your website...i'm looking to buy

Brujah 02-06-2010 04:29 AM

I've done business with joker_boy, and he always goes the extra mile to take care of his customers.

Maqua 02-06-2010 04:48 AM

Nice looking stuff, excellent job :)

Iron Fist 02-06-2010 04:59 AM

Sorry buddy.... the martini lifestyle has to go.... get used to rye and cokes for a while :)

joker_boy 02-07-2010 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 16818715)
I've done business with joker_boy, and he always goes the extra mile to take care of his customers.

Thank you, old friend!

joker_boy 02-07-2010 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rover (Post 16818713)
what is your website...i'm looking to buy

My old portpolio at www.wowdesigner.com
My fresh pics (urls) are at the top of this topic.
Fill free to contact me by ICQ 6211919six
or email:
webmaster at wowdesigner.com
and eugene.wowdesigner at gmail.com

joker_boy 02-07-2010 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16818742)
Sorry buddy.... the martini lifestyle has to go.... get used to rye and cokes for a while :)

Thank you for your encouragement, buddy! :)
I love your sense of humor. ;)

badpuma 02-07-2010 01:23 AM

nice skills

joker_boy 02-07-2010 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badpuma (Post 16821928)
nice skills

Thanx :)

Cyber Fucker 02-07-2010 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joker_boy (Post 16812712)
http://www.wowdesigner.com/samples/wtf.jpg

WHAT IS GOING ON WITH TOON NICHE?!!

I've been drawing exclusive pics for different clients more than 8 years.
Different people bought my pics during this time period.
It was no problem finding buyers, cause I always make quality stuff.

I always setup the best price for exclusive pics.
My regular customers also get exclusive discounts.

What is the reason for tough selling of toons for the last 6 months?
Can anyone tell me?

I still have a lot of pics for sale:
sell-and-buy-forum/927072-bleach-stylized-hq-content-sale.html
sell-and-buy-forum/949171-toon-sets-sale-sale-sale.html
fucking-around-and-business-discussion/934321-gonna-love.html
and my permanent topic is:
sell-and-buy-forum/912286-exclusive-toon-content-production.html


People grown up?

And now seriously, you've got some cute toons there! I wish you many sales! :thumbsup

Roby 02-07-2010 12:04 PM

nice toon !

tombarr 02-07-2010 12:15 PM

Sent you an email.. nice work. Hope to hear back from you soon.

joker_boy 02-07-2010 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tombarr (Post 16822846)
Sent you an email.. nice work. Hope to hear back from you soon.

:thumbsup

Replied, check your mailbox, please.

joker_boy 02-07-2010 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbwebmaster (Post 16822776)
People grown up?

And now seriously, you've got some cute toons there! I wish you many sales! :thumbsup

Thank you! :)

fatfoo 02-07-2010 01:20 PM

Looks like cats. Dumb looking cats.

joker_boy 02-07-2010 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatfoo (Post 16823306)
Looks like cats. Dumb looking cats.

Bravo, fellow! :)


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