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Robert Day 01-06-2010 10:07 PM

Russian content shoots vs. US shooters
 
Is it me, or are the Russian content shooters getting more business than LA and shooters in the states right now?

So far I see more high quality Russian content here these days.

NaughtyRob 01-06-2010 10:08 PM

One thing I noticed is that a lot more Eastern European girls are getting boobjobs. Yuck.

neonlights 01-06-2010 10:08 PM

hi, where can I purchase Russian made content ? is there a site ? IS it possible to order custom scenes or content ?

NaughtyRob 01-06-2010 10:09 PM

You can order some from me neonlights, but American girls and affordable!

Mutt 01-06-2010 10:13 PM

there are a lot of Russian programs and paysites now shooting their own content.

the big American programs are all shooting the same bunch of girls and guys in the same locations, same themes, same, same, same everything - and the LA DVD studios the same, there's no difference between a Naughty America MILF scene with Lisa Ann from a Brazzers MILF scene with Lisa Ann from a Zero Tolerance MILF scene with Lisa Ann from a Bangbros MILF scene with Lisa Ann .............. so I think this has given these Russian programs an opening, something fresh and different.

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RedGlamourStudio 01-06-2010 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights (Post 16722139)
hi, where can I purchase Russian made content ? is there a site ? IS it possible to order custom scenes or content ?

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 01-07-2010 12:26 AM

those skinny east euro/ruskie models are hot as fuck in the art/glamour stuff. something about russian hardcore always looks creepy though. maybe russians are just that creepy.

digitaldivas 01-07-2010 12:38 AM

russian women are just superior imho

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Loch 01-07-2010 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16722133)
Is it me, or are the Russian content shooters getting more business than LA and shooters in the states right now?

So far I see more high quality Russian content here these days.

See the production thread Porno Dan started......we will see a TON of content from eastern europe, central america

Western countries will go down the tubes production wise in 2010

RedGlamourStudio 01-07-2010 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16722610)
something about russian hardcore always looks creepy though.

yes, it's true...but when customers asks 200-300$ for hardcore set:winkwink:

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Robert Day 01-07-2010 09:22 AM

Wow... So those of us in the good ole usa are losing out to the Russians.

Again this proves that shooters in LA and around the USA are not very smart.

I do not think that euro women are superior to US women, euro girls are far more open minded and have less, so they will take three cocks in the ass at the same time on their first shoot.

frank7799 01-07-2010 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16723847)
I do not think that euro women are superior to US women,

YouŽll find all kinds of women in every country, unless your opinion is based on prejudices. There are hot US girls, there are hot chicks from Europe.

Quote:

euro girls are far more open minded and have less, so they will take three cocks in the ass at the same time on their first shoot.
Seems to be one of those prejudices.:2 cents:

Robert Day 01-07-2010 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4yadult (Post 16723879)
YouŽll find all kinds of women in every country, unless your opinion is based on prejudices. There are hot US girls, there are hot chicks from Europe.



Seems to be one of those prejudices.:2 cents:

You are a complete idiot, your statement proves it.

I am NOT prejudice, I said clearly I do not think euro women are superior.
All white women in the USA are European you idiot! Any white person in the USA is European. I may have been born in the USA, but I am English and German by race.
So you are an un educated idiot.

Also there is not as much money in Russia, so the girls take what they can get.
300 to 600 per shoot while girls in LA make twice to three times that amount per scene.

Sinister Angel 01-07-2010 09:38 AM

I'll buy that
 
I am always looking for hot content NOT from North America. Looking for middle east and Indian subcontinent content too. anyone here know where to get REAL indian content and not some mexican with dots on their forehead stuff? [email protected]

billywatson 01-07-2010 09:39 AM

I dunno about you guys, but if they can't speak English and talk dirty to me, I'm dead from the waist down.

seeandsee 01-07-2010 09:44 AM

cheap force is cheap force :(

Agent 488 01-07-2010 09:50 AM

with some of those russian shoots you can almost feel the heroin needles crunching underneath your boots.

frank7799 01-07-2010 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16723899)
complete idiot
you idiot!
So you are an un educated idiot.

If all Americans would be so very well educated and polite like you are, it would be hardly surprising that the US economy is ailing.

Fortunately most companies I delt with have proven otherwise.:)

Jay-Rock 01-07-2010 10:37 AM

Russian's shoot much cheaper from what I have heard, but being use to american girls in my personal life I can't jerk off to russian porn its usually very stale and the girls aren't as believeable and from what I hear it doesn't convert like hot american girls.

diesel 01-07-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16722610)
those skinny east euro/ruskie models are hot as fuck in the art/glamour stuff. something about russian hardcore always looks creepy though. maybe russians are just that creepy.

It's not that bad :)

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fatfoo 01-07-2010 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitaldivas (Post 16722626)
russian women are just superior imho

Yeah, I used to live in Russia.

It's fun sometimes to talk to old ladies who live in Russia and they tell stories of how they went through World War II.

And the old lady veterans say things like, "Oh, we were riding in a tank, and then the tank next to us exploded on a mine." - and things like that.

frank7799 01-07-2010 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 16724134)
Russian's shoot much cheaper from what I have heard, but being use to american girls in my personal life I can't jerk off to russian porn its usually very stale and the girls aren't as believeable and from what I hear it doesn't convert like hot american girls.

IŽve seen crap produced all over the world. Quality depends on the producer. Maybe more of that crap comes from Russia.
But you are right, itŽs much easier to sell local girls in a local market. Maybe the surfer buys the illusion that he can fuck that girl who he is watching on the website.

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PurrrfectVideo 01-07-2010 10:57 AM

By American... Just look for a better producer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights (Post 16722139)
hi, where can I purchase Russian made content ? is there a site ? IS it possible to order custom scenes or content ?

By American... Just look for a better producer.

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Bman 01-07-2010 11:26 AM

Shooting hard core scenes for $300? wow.

The biggest market is still the US for Porn and they still want to fuck whats next door...
shooting Hot chicks is what sells wheteher Amateur, Glamour, Niche or Hardcore:2 cents:

Shoot one super hot chick like a "10" in quality and you can sell it a 100 times...the russians are just mass producing and I am sure any Program can tell you what converts and 90% of the time it is Hot girls and American Style Content and being best in Market.

CaptainHowdy 01-07-2010 11:38 AM

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Jim_Gunn 01-07-2010 11:40 AM

I am sure that there will continue to be porn produced all over the civilized world, but Russian porn is simply not any competition for American porn. The kind of porn I shoot with fresh faced American girls who can be interviewed, can speak English and act out scenarios, just cannot be replicated in Eastern Europe. A lot of the North American fans prefer to see and hear girls they can relate to. In other countries as well they often prefer American porn.

Would you rather see palm trees, bikinis and your home country in the background while they have an English conversation leading to a sex scene or see some creepy looking Euro guy fucking a Slavic girl in a remote farmhouse somewhere with no dialog to speak of? Mutt's comment about the LA scene is also correct- same girls shooting for the same sites. At least with my shoots, I get brand new girls for my clients on a regular basis before they are all shot out, not the same LA porn stars bouncing from set to set.

Mutt 01-07-2010 01:56 PM

oh, i agree that American girls still are what the vast majority of surfers want because they want to see girls like they see and know in their own lives - it's just that it's the same girls being shot for 100 different sites and 100 DVD's and there's nothing that can be done about that. Nobody can recruit enough attractive girls to do porn to keep up with the shooting schedule sites that regularly update have to keep up with. Bangbros in the beginning was doing it but it became impossible for them so they became like everybody else relying mostly on the LA talent agencies for their talent.

Dirty Dane 01-07-2010 02:14 PM

When I look at sites like Met-Art, then I have no doubt where the most beautiful girls origin.
I also think 2257 has made the US models ... hmm... older. And harder to produce. General speaking?

WebAdultSolution 01-07-2010 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights (Post 16722139)
hi, where can I purchase Russian made content ? is there a site ? IS it possible to order custom scenes or content ?



Hit me up! I can shoot it !

Robert Day 01-07-2010 07:06 PM

I do not shoot content, I market the stuff

Overload 01-07-2010 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16723899)
You are a complete idiot, your statement proves it.

I am NOT prejudice, I said clearly I do not think euro women are superior.
All white women in the USA are European you idiot! Any white person in the USA is European. I may have been born in the USA, but I am English and German by race.
So you are an un educated idiot.

Also there is not as much money in Russia, so the girls take what they can get.
300 to 600 per shoot while girls in LA make twice to three times that amount per scene.

mann! von wegen deutsch! nichts an dir ist deutsch, denn normalerweise sind deutsche eher liberal und nicht so ausfallend! besides ... less than 100 posts and such a big mouth ... good luck for an early ban :2 cents::thumbsup

german and english by language ... since you claim to be german you'll be able to read, no?

Overload 01-07-2010 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 16724424)
I am sure that there will continue to be porn produced all over the civilized world, but Russian porn is simply not any competition for American porn. The kind of porn I shoot with fresh faced American girls who can be interviewed, can speak English and act out scenarios, just cannot be replicated in Eastern Europe. A lot of the North American fans prefer to see and hear girls they can relate to. In other countries as well they often prefer American porn.

Would you rather see palm trees, bikinis and your home country in the background while they have an English conversation leading to a sex scene or see some creepy looking Euro guy fucking a Slavic girl in a remote farmhouse somewhere with no dialog to speak of? Mutt's comment about the LA scene is also correct- same girls shooting for the same sites. At least with my shoots, I get brand new girls for my clients on a regular basis before they are all shot out, not the same LA porn stars bouncing from set to set.

EHH? speak? what the ... serious ... who needs AHs and OHs in dvd quality as long as the girl looks hot as molten steel? i prefer the east block babes ... fresh faces, seldomly a boobjob creep bun ... the russian babes look less wasted ... and SELL :thumbsup

Robert Day 01-07-2010 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overload (Post 16725933)
mann! von wegen deutsch! nichts an dir ist deutsch, denn normalerweise sind deutsche eher liberal und nicht so ausfallend! besides ... less than 100 posts and such a big mouth ... good luck for an early ban :2 cents::thumbsup

german and english by language ... since you claim to be german you'll be able to read, no?

To be honest I could care less if I was banned, I make more than any porn producer could ever dream at my normal career. I just market porn as an extra, it was more or less at test
of my marketing skills.

If you produce any big name DVD series, I am probably one of the guys who distributes it internationally, so be weary of who you are calling a big mouth.

Robert Day 01-07-2010 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overload (Post 16725933)
mann! von wegen deutsch! nichts an dir ist deutsch, denn normalerweise sind deutsche eher liberal und nicht so ausfallend! besides ... less than 100 posts and such a big mouth ... good luck for an early ban :2 cents::thumbsup

german and english by language ... since you claim to be german you'll be able to read, no?

again.... stupidity by nature. America known as the United States of America was founded by Europeans. So we are the same as any Russian or German race, dont need to know the language. lol

gandalfuy 01-07-2010 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16722149)
there are a lot of Russian programs and paysites now shooting their own content.

the big American programs are all shooting the same bunch of girls and guys in the same locations, same themes, same, same, same everything - and the LA DVD studios the same, there's no difference between a Naughty America MILF scene with Lisa Ann from a Brazzers MILF scene with Lisa Ann from a Zero Tolerance MILF scene with Lisa Ann from a Bangbros MILF scene with Lisa Ann .............. so I think this has given these Russian programs an opening, something fresh and different.

:2 cents::thumbsup

Overload 01-07-2010 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16726098)
To be honest I could care less if I was banned, I make more than any porn producer could ever dream at my normal career. I just market porn as an extra, it was more or less at test
of my marketing skills.

If you produce any big name DVD series, I am probably one of the guys who distributes it internationally, so be weary of who you are calling a big mouth.

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Robert Day 01-07-2010 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overload (Post 16726212)
bragging badass bum ... bimple, beh? bla

I am no bad ass, I make money, I move money. I am the guy who controls QC before a DVD gets put on the list for distribution, I can make or break your product.

So please, take my advise, be careful who you insult, if you have a DVD on the list it can be erased and you will be sitting on possibly 5,000 copies of useless product.

I opened this thread by talking about seeing Russian content shooters selling more content right now. Not your inferior crap

Nodtveidt 01-07-2010 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16726271)
I am no bad ass, I make money, I move money. I am the guy who controls QC before a DVD gets put on the list for distribution, I can make or break your product.

So please, take my advise, be careful who you insult, if you have a DVD on the list it can be erased and you will be sitting on possibly 5,000 copies of useless product.

What company do you work for?

Robert Day 01-07-2010 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nodtveidt (Post 16726317)
What company do you work for?

Hint.... I do not work for any company

marcop 01-08-2010 12:42 AM

IMHO, the Russian girls, particularly the teens, are very hot and pretty much do everything. But the scenes are usually very cookie cutter and often the girls look bored/distracted/in pain/etc. In general, the content is not very good.

Robert Day 01-09-2010 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcop (Post 16726689)
IMHO, the Russian girls, particularly the teens, are very hot and pretty much do everything. But the scenes are usually very cookie cutter and often the girls look bored/distracted/in pain/etc. In general, the content is not very good.

This agree... but nevertheless, even those USA webmasters are buying Russian content, take nubiles for example

marcop 01-09-2010 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Day (Post 16732034)
This agree... but nevertheless, even those USA webmasters are buying Russian content, take nubiles for example

The guy who runs Nubiles is very smart and knows what he's doing. He hires good photographers, and he makes sure the content is up to his standards. And, I think I'm right in saying that all his shoots are custom shoots, which wasn't what I was referring to in my previous post.

Catalyst 01-09-2010 04:17 PM

The Russians will work cheaper with their slave labor...

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