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theking 12-31-2009 04:10 PM

A Federal Judge threw out all charges against the Blackwater
 
...employees that were charged with killing 17 Iraqi civilians.

Glenn Beck 12-31-2009 04:35 PM

Finally a non-activist judge stood up for america. god bless him.

theking 01-01-2010 04:37 PM

I am surprised that the Blackwater critics (and there were a lot of you) have not weighed in on this decision by the court.

onwebcam 01-01-2010 06:16 PM

You can't have a bunch of private mercs on a witness stand testifying to their illegal operations. The owner and CIA operative already warned the establishment that if they come after him he rolls. Welcome to the new World of no accountability for certain peoples actions.

theking 01-01-2010 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16700852)
You can't have a bunch of private mercs on a witness stand testifying to their illegal operations. The owner and CIA operative already warned the establishment that if they come after him he rolls. Welcome to the new World of no accountability for certain peoples actions.

Hmm...my guess would be that the Judge dismissed the charges because of a distinct lack of proof...not because of your fruit cake reason.

onwebcam 01-01-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16700886)
Hmm...my guess would be that the Judge dismissed the charges because of a distinct lack of proof...not because of your fruit cake reason.


Tycoon, Contractor, Soldier, Spy
Erik Prince, recently outed as a participant in a C.I.A. assassination program, has gained notoriety as head of the military-contracting juggernaut Blackwater, a company dogged by a grand-jury investigation, bribery accusations, and the voluntary-manslaughter trial of five ex-employees, set for next month. Lashing back at his critics, the wealthy former navy seal takes the author inside his operation in the U.S. and Afghanistan, revealing the role he’s been playing in America’s war on terror.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/f...ckwater-201001


The article is written by a CIA defense lawyer.

theking 01-01-2010 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16700899)
Tycoon, Contractor, Soldier, Spy
Erik Prince, recently outed as a participant in a C.I.A. assassination program, has gained notoriety as head of the military-contracting juggernaut Blackwater, a company dogged by a grand-jury investigation, bribery accusations, and the voluntary-manslaughter trial of five ex-employees, set for next month. Lashing back at his critics, the wealthy former navy seal takes the author inside his operation in the U.S. and Afghanistan, revealing the role he?s been playing in America?s war on terror.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/f...ckwater-201001


The article is written by a CIA defense lawyer.

I guess there must be a point to your post. I am quiet familiar with Blackwater and watched the congressional hearing investigating Blackwater and the hearing...just as the "trial" of the 5 employees ended in failure to come up with any legitimate charges against Blackwater.

onwebcam 01-01-2010 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16700911)
I guess there must be a point to your post. I am quiet familiar with Blackwater and watched the congressional hearing investigating Blackwater and the hearing...just as the "trial" of the 5 employees ended in failure to come up with any legitimate charges against Blackwater.

My point should be pretty clear. He could send a lot of important people down the river so to keep that from happening I'm quite sure there's a lot of "failures" that would occur in any prosecution. Considering he spilled his guts to a journalist/CIA defense attorney I would say he took out a bit of an insurance policy by doing so and there's likely a lot of "off the record" details which said attorney/journalist has.

Bill8 01-01-2010 07:19 PM

It's kinda funny watching wingnuts crow about mercenaries getting off on a technicality, while the apearance of a fake and intentionally fumbled corrupt trial further alienates the iraqis and makes the war even more pointless and ridiculous.

What a great accomplishment. Trillions wasted, and bereaved families, for nothing.

onwebcam 01-01-2010 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 16700938)
It's kinda funny watching wingnuts crow about mercenaries getting off on a technicality, while the apearance of a fake and intentionally fumbled corrupt trial further alienates the iraqis and makes the war even more pointless and ridiculous.

What a great accomplishment. Trillions wasted, and bereaved families, for nothing.

I don't find anything amusing about any of it...

theking 01-01-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16700918)
My point should be pretty clear. He could send a lot of important people down the river so to keep that from happening I'm quite sure there's a lot of "failures" that would occur in any prosecution. Considering he spilled his guts to a journalist/CIA defense attorney I would say he took out a bit of an insurance policy by doing so and there's likely a lot of "off the record" details which said attorney/journalist has.

Your assumptions are amusing. The last I knew...it is only courts that can send ayone "down the river" and only after a trial where evidence is presented and a jury is convinced by the evidence that a defendant is guilty beyond any reasonable doubt.

onwebcam 01-01-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16701000)
Your assumptions are amusing. The last I knew...it is only courts that can send ayone "down the river" and only after a trial where evidence is presented and a jury is convinced by the evidence that a defendant is guilty beyond any reasonable doubt.

If the person getting contracted and in charge of hiring out said illegal contracts began to talk and presenting evidence wouldn't you think that would make a pretty damn good case? I think the term is "singing like a canary" So what you have here is the guy holding all the cards more or less doing "some" singing to warn those who might want to use him as their scapegoat. Grant it he deserves everything he would get but he played it right I guess. It will eventually come out along with his co-conspirators. Cheney has admitted to hiring out these goons and the goons have admitted to doing it. Eventually ALL of them will answer for their crimes against humanity.

theking 01-01-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16701077)
If the person getting contracted and in charge of hiring out said illegal contracts began to talk and presenting evidence wouldn't you think that would make a pretty damn good case? I think the term is "singing like a canary" So what you have here is the guy holding all the cards more or less doing "some" singing to warn those who might want to use him as their scapegoat. Grant it he deserves everything he would get and it will eventually come out along with his co-conspirators. Cheney has admitted to hiring out these goons and the goons have admitted to doing it. Eventually ALL of them will answer for their crimes against humanity.

"Eventually ALL of them will answer for their crimes against humanity."

Accusations of illegal activities/crimes...do not illegal activities/crime make. Convictions do...and until then...

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-01-2010 08:38 PM

I will not be surprised when Eric Prince/Blackwater/Xe tries to overthrow the U.S. government:



ADG

KILL_FRENZY 01-01-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16700886)
Hmm...my guess would be that the Judge dismissed the charges because of a distinct lack of proof...not because of your fruit cake reason.

:thumbsup Bingo. Real life is not Hollywood and authorities just don't see justice the way we do or the way we think they do.

Knowing someone is guilt and actually proving it without shadow of doubt in accord to necessary protocols are two very different things.

onwebcam 01-01-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 16701110)
I will not be surprised when Eric Prince/Blackwater/Xe tries to overthrow the U.S. government:


ADG

They already have. These ARE the people running our government present and past.

theking 01-01-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16701129)
They already have. These ARE the people running our government present and past.

Damn...I missed it. Hmm...I did a google search...it would appear as if the entire world missed it. What day...specifically...did Blackwater attempt to overthrow/overthrew...the government?

Rangermoore 01-01-2010 08:57 PM

Some of these comments are funny..

ADG: "I will not be surprised when Eric Prince/Blackwater/Xe tries to overthrow the U.S. government"

That will never happen...LOL

Bill8: "What a great accomplishment. Trillions wasted, and bereaved families, for nothing"

I would hope you are talking about American Families...

Onwebcam: "I would say he took out a bit of an insurance policy"

Of course he took out an insurance policy, Anyone who has ever worked in that environment knows You always cover your ass..

I always had a "get out of jail free card" to play if I ever needed it.. I always made sure that when questionable actions went down "Someone else" would have their ass in a sling if I got called on the carpet for anything.. It's just the way it is when you operate in that environment..

If you have never been in that world then you have no knowledge of how things work..and therefore are just speculating how things work...:2 cents::2 cents:

Rangermoore 01-01-2010 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16701129)
They already have. These ARE the people running our government present and past.

Your funny..

onwebcam 01-01-2010 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 16701138)
Damn...I missed it. Hmm...I did a google search...it would appear as if the entire world missed it. What day...specifically...did Blackwater attempt to overthrow/overthrew...the government?

Did you watch the video he posted smartass? Such as the quotes of them doing "gods work" "Knights of the Templar" "Christian Crusaders"

Blackwater is just an arm of the criminals who have been in control for many many years.

Mr Obama got up close and personal with Blackwater in Afghanistan

He added: “Most contractors act as if the law doesn’t apply to them. Under my plan, if contractors break the law, they will be prosecuted.”

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/to...n_Afghanistan/

Oh really?

onwebcam 01-01-2010 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangermoore (Post 16701141)

If you have never been in that world then you have no knowledge of how things work..and therefore are just speculating how things work...:2 cents::2 cents:

Did you ever consider in your "experience" that because some people believe they are above the law might be the REAL problem? If Blackwater is doing "gods work" and "Al-Qaeda" is doing "Gods work" then doesn't that make Blackwater=Al-Qaeda. I guess since they are/were both employed by the CIA then yeah it does... hmm what do you know. One group using two other groups as pawns.

Matt 26z 01-01-2010 09:25 PM

Here is leaked video of a different security firm shooting at civilian cars. They have submitted copyright claims to YouTube to have these videos removed.



If this was caught on film and leaked, then just imagine how widespread this behavior and much worse must be.

onwebcam 01-01-2010 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 16701189)
Here is leaked video of a different security firm shooting at civilian cars. They have submitted copyright claims to YouTube to have these videos removed.


If this was caught on film and leaked, then just imagine how widespread this behavior and much worse must be.

Yep these motherfuckers think it's a goddamn game and we obviously have some people on this board that think it is as well.

theking 01-01-2010 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16701203)
Yep these motherfuckers think it's a goddamn game and we obviously have some people on this board that think it is as well.

I think that Blackwater and others like them are neccesary entities or the Government would not contract their services...now would they?


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