Article: "Barack Obama gets an 'F' for protecting Americans "
 

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/to...ing-americans/

Do you think its fair to give Obama an 'F' due to a failed bombing from a flight originating in another country?

If Obama gets an F what to they give Bush?

Thats what i was tihnking

Obama could save a drowning nun and people would complain that he interfered with Gods will.

what he said..

a certain group of people will not stop complaining until they have another fail from the Bush family in place. or Palin. and then i want to see what place this world will turn into :helpme :error

If grades could go past the letter F, I'd hope that's what Bush would get.

Bush has been out of office for over a year, it's funny that people are still comparing Obama to him.
I'll be fair, Obama hasn't done anything to reduce security that I know of, in fact, he has probably helped with his diplomacy
But I feel that all this will get worse as Obama moves forward to move detainees to Chicago for court and give the terrorists a platform, when that happens, I foresee a rise in incidents like the one on Christmas day

Well of course. It's 100% Obam's fault he wasn't at the airport in Holland to personally frisk the bomber. Are you nuts?

nothing changes no matter who is in office.

About right.

This so called act of terror was fake it was a smoke screen to keep all of our eyes and attention away from this.........................................

.................................................. .................................................. ......................
A California judge today tentatively scheduled a trial for Jan. 26, 2010, for a case that challenges Barack Obama's eligibility to be president based on questions over his qualifications under the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

If the case actually goes to arguments before U.S. District Judge David Carter, it will be the first time the merits of the dispute have been argued in open court, according to one of the attorneys working on the issue.

In a highly anticipated hearing today before Carter, several motions were heard, including a resolution to long-standing questions about whether attorney Orly Taitz properly served notice on the defendants, which she had.

In a second ruling, Carter ordered that attorney Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation can be added to the case to represent plaintiffs Wiley Drake and Markham Robinson, who had been removed by an earlier court order. Drake, the vice presidential candidate for the American Independent Party, and Robinson, the party's chairman, also were restored to the case.

Want to know for certain where Obama was born? Demand the truth by joining the petition campaign to make President Obama reveal his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate!

But the judge did not immediately rule on Taitz' motion to be granted discovery – that is the right to see the president's still-concealed records. Nor did Carter rule immediately on a motion to dismiss the case, submitted by the U.S. government, following discussion over Taitz' challenge to the work of a magistrate in the case.

The judge did comment that if there are legitimate constitutional questions regarding Obama's eligibility, they need to be addressed and resolved.

Carter ordered a hearing Oct. 5 on the motion to dismiss and ordered arguments submitted on the issue of discovery.

If the case survives that challenge, a pretrial hearing has been scheduled for Jan. 11 and the trial for two weeks later.

The case would be the first time, according to Kreep, that the actual merits of the dispute will have been heard in open court. A multitude of such disputes have been rejected out of hand by various state and federal courts. Even the U.S. Supreme Court repeatedly has rejected urgent appeals to hear the evidence.

The suit alleges Obama is actually a citizen of Indonesia and "possibly still citizen of Kenya, usurping the position of the president of the United States of America and the commander-in-chief."

One thing I would like to add to this that alot of people forget.

Bill Clinton shouold have gotten an A, and I'll tell you why-

Right before the turn of the century Bin Laden and Al Queda planned to blow up the space needle in seattle. It wasn't largely publicized, but I lived in Washington state during this time and shit was serious. They caught several operatives trying to cross the boarder into the country, they swabbed a ton of people flying around that time for bomb making materials, and even when it seemed fairly clear the plot had been thwarted they still roped off several city blocks around the space needle just to make sure.

Bin Laden was HUGE on Clinton's radar and when he sent missles into the mountains of afghanistan he was accused of trying to shift attention from his personal scandals and wag the dog.

The problem our government has is not the gathering of intellegence, it's acting on it once we have it.

You know you are full of shit and that can't be challenged in court. Might as well say McCain couldn't be president either because he was born in Panama.

Birthers? You've gotta be fucking kidding me.

http://datingjesus.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/v58.jpg

Gotta love a movement trying to prove someone isn't a born American citizen led by a coo-coo immigrant.

Do some research on Orly Taitz. That broad is crazier than a shit house rat. Anyone who would get behind that one must be just as insane. :disgust

I'd also like to go on record that overapplied mascara should be considered a sign of mental illness.

insane or just just far more intelligent than you will ever be?

Dont worry hes bombing Pakistan and Yemen right now to make keep us "free and safe". Wait does Yemen have oil?

Clown makeup is another sign of insanity... obviously!

Seems the war in Afghanistan is going well too

July Deadliest Month
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...1.4ba60e9.html

Opps no Aug is
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapc...ths/index.html

Opps nope Oct is
http://www.whtm.com/news/stories/1009/672823.html


Yup seems everything is going smoothly. Where are the body counts on CNN and msNBC like they did under Bush?

You must be a fake nick. No one is really this stupid. :1orglaugh

Agreed, just another trouble making clown!

Thats right, ShellyCrash. I've posted many times over the years links to Clintons speeches where he BEGS the republican controlled congress to allow wiretapping of suspected terrorists just like we did with suspected drug lords. They wouldnt pass it.

Just like today, if Obama or any democrat or independent wants anything that upsets the status quo, the only thing republicans SEEM to do is throw themselves on the floor and engage maximum tantrum.

Obama didn't start the war... that is why.

I was posing a question to stimulate conversation my friend.

Nothing stopped Clinton from wiretapping. All he needed to do was get court orders. Pretty simple when you have proof they are terrorists. And if these terrorist were out of the country well, we can spy on them cant we?

This is the "right war" according to Obama. And THIS IS Obamas war NOW. Bush has NOTHING to do with people dying in October. It is 100% in Obamas hands. Just like it was in Bush's hands before that.

McCain was born on a US base to US citizens, anyone that puts down him as anything but US citizen him being a POW is well, not very informed

This is too good a response to be limited to just one thread...

Well no kidding? The point was to wiretap SUSPECTED terrorists just liked we had always tapped SUSPECTED drug king pins. If you have proof, it's not a suspect. Things are not as simple as you seem to think.

Here is a quote:
"To extend the same power police now have against organized crime to save lives by tapping all the phones that terrorists use. Terrorists are as big a threat to our future, perhaps bigger, than organized crime. Why should we have two different standards for a common threat to the safety of America and our children?

We need, in short, the laws that Congress refused to pass. And I ask them again -- please, as an American, not a partisan, matter, pass these laws now. "

Full text of 1996 speech: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/conventi...nton_8-29.html

If you want to tell someone to get a judge to give you a court order, tell the last administration. No wonder they wouldnt send Clinton a new wiretap bill, they didnt give a shit anyway when they got power. This is a powerful predictor of current and future behavior IMHO.

They are that simple you dont need proof enough to find someone guilty just proof enough to be suspected. Im with you with pointing the finger at Bush. I strongly disagree with the Patriot Act.

Clinton would have got an F
he bombed Iraq the same day the House begins debating articles of impeachment against President Clinton
There were a lot of terroist attacks during Clintons terms and nnothing was done. Bush , after 9/11 made some changes, like it or not, we didn't have more attacks on US soil

Its a little known fact that Clinton dropped more bombs on Iraq than the first Bush. The Iraq war never ended. The second Bush just escalated the war.

A number of other terrorists have gone on trial, even *gasp* under Bush including the very similar Shoe Bomber and not one person complained. Mussaoui(sp?, potential 20th 9/11 hijacker), Shoe Bomber, Blind Sheik, the wtc bomber, et al have all been through our justice system and tried and found guilty and are now rotting in federal prison. Of course, under Bush, they were shining examples of how our Justice System works. Under Obama it makes us less safe somehow.

We'll never know because he took his eye off it almost 7 years ago and it went to complete shit since.

43rd President of the United States
In office:
January 20, 2001 ? January 20, 2009


lol...

That you do not know history of foreign countries, that is expected from an American...

But again you show here how stupid or ignorant ( probably both ) you are ...

Thats right, there's 240 terrorists in federal prison right now that were charged and tried under the previous administration. No complaints.

Engage maximum tantrum because a non-R did it.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Seriously? I'd like to see the stats on that.

Also could you throw the civilian death toll in there as well. I want to make sure we're comparing apples to apples.

Bush would get an F just like Obama got an F. Funny how liberals think that Conservatives are JUST complaining about Obama for the sake of complaining, while overlooking all of the shit he has caused.

Actually, he would get an award for doing nothing at all and talking about how he is going to save her.

While I don't agree with what the other guy said, you can bet your ass there are plenty of things that happen to take your eyes from the ball. That's politics.

Children Handcuffed And Executed Under Obamas Watch

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6971638.ece

:mad::(

Out of all the stupid shit you say this has to rank up there :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You could say they share the blame, but to say bush has NOTHING to do with people dying in October is fucking retarded.

Like starting a fire you can't control but saying you hold zero responsibility for what happens after somebody has to be brought in to deal with the mess.

He did do very little but talk so far. It makes all these Obama this, Obama that threads the more pathetic.

Bush stayed in office 8 years and lead the US into two Wars, kind of decisions that invite controversy and debate wheter you agree with them or not.

Yet I defy you to find a single poster who wrote more about Bush during the course of those 8 years than Illtestyourgirls has written in the single year Obama has been in office :2 cents:

So what some of you are saying is, it's ok for Obama to get the Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing, but it's NOT ok for him to receive an F for national security efforts? Hilarious. While we're at it, lets give him an F for economics.

There's more to that story than that report..
--------------------------

Col. Calley went into My Lai and wiped out most of the town.. men, women, and children...
Nixon pardoned him after his conviction and a few days in jail..

War isn't fair no matter who's running the country. Unfortunate things happen.

And I'm conversating Einstien.

It's called making a point. McCain wasn't actualy born on US soil. I never questioned his citizenship. Please take the GOP blinders off.

Seen that movie all around GFY tonight. Defiantly a matter of national security :thumbsup

Bush doesn't register on the fucking scale....

50 Harvard Law School Assholes