What do you think about the Delta Bomber?
 

So what do you think about the guy that tried to blow up the Delta plane on Christmas day??

Here is my opinion on the situation:

#1. I think the homeland security director should be fired. (bring back ashcroft)

#2. I think she should start racially profiling these passengers.

#3. The gov should take the rest of that bail out money and buy x-ray body machines for all airports this year and install them by the end of 2010.

#4. Bomb sniffing dogs should be at every main security entrance at every metal detector until the machines are all installed. You can't get nothing buy a dog's nose.

#5. Don't let anyone on a plane anymore with carry on bags.

#6. Don't allow the media to tell people how to make bombs. If you watched the news cast on MSNBS, they showed you how to make a bomb out of PETN (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34616570...shington_post/), wake up people, your telling these idiots how to blow up shit!!

#7. The terror watch list should be on every airline's computer at check in and should auto check the passenger's names and auto deny them a ticket.

#8. All turbin's should have to fly in one plane, this way if they want to blow it up, they take themselves out and no American's get killed. (Alqida Airlines)..

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What do you think?

1. Only nake people can travel with AIRPLANE, END

What do I think?

I think none of that would have mattered since he did not board the plane in the US and therefore was not subject to US law.

I also feel that anybody who wants Ashcroft back in office has zero business posting on this board.

I think that flying is becoming such a fucking pain in the ass, that its better to just drive where I want to go now.

I don't. I will be flying to Vegas NWA/Delta in a week or so.

I simply think that, unless they try their shenanigans in the bathroom, no terrorist will ever hold a plane of passengers hostage again like they did on 9-11.

They will be bum rushed by the whole fucking plane if they try just about anything anymore.

:2 cents:

But it was the US's watch list that allowed him to enter the country from an airline that is based in the USA. Delta is a major airline and if our homeland security was working he would have never got on the jet in the first place. Our embassy failed to relay the warning. I just think the (secretary) Napolitano should step down. I don't think she is capable of protecting our airways.

If that bomb went off during flight, everyone on that plane would have been killed.

Correct.

As I've said before. If they are willing to trade their life for yours, they will always win. You simply need to accept that fact and stop wasting tax payers dollars to make you feel warm and fuzzy until they finally break through again.

Yes. It sucks they will eventually get through, but that is simply the facts of the matter. You need to accept that you are not going to live forever. Same as the drunk driving down the road can kill you. Or the jihad bomber, the crazy postal worker, the out of work auto industry guy tripping on meth and robbing the convenience store, whatever...

You were never promised you would live forever, and there is only so much the government, and you, can do to stop the truly committed, or crazy.

Well I look at it this way, (1) for the US and (0) for Jihad at this point, It was the citizens of the plane that bum rushed this kid which is probably why that bomb didn't go off. According to the PETN or properties of that material he had, he had to light it on fire to get it to explode.. I'm sure the guy was trying to light his underwear on fire and someone figured that something wasn't right. Hell I heard of a wedgie but this would take the cake. I',m glad he burnt himself up!

No we don't live forever and we know this, but it is all our duty to keep a watchful eye, it's the governments duty to adhere to their own polices and safeguards that are beyond the reach or grasp of the private citizen. If they can't, someone has to be held accountable and get the fuck out the door like the secretary for example. If those people got killed on Friday, do you think the secretary would still have her job?

Sorry toots.

The blame game is the American way and all, but it means little if you're dead.

:2 cents:

I think that it is somewhat funny that we say that 'our system failed' when the guy got on a plane in Nigeria with the bomb and was then missed in Amsterdam as well. Where the fuck is 'our system' in all of that? With the exception of not accepting the parent's earlier warnings as completely serious, I think that we made very few errors and I applaud the quick actions of the passengers and crew on that flight. But, I certainly think that we give Al Qaeda, the MILF (no, not hot moms), the Taliban, and every other terrorist organization, extremist, or insurgent a good laugh every time that we have these 'knee jerk' reactions (someone on here called it that, yesterday, and I think that it is a great analogy). All too often we quickly point the finger at ourselves and make everyone, except the root source of the problem, suffer because of it.

Well said sire.
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Our part was the watch list (it's part of our system that failed).. The list did no good in Nigeria or Amsterdam so why do we have it???. Personally I think the guy got the material from someone in Amsterdam, but we can speculate all day on the full event.

Like I said if the watch list was paid attention too or updated, then the service agent would have never allowed the kid to board the plane in Nigeria. It was a US plane, if it was Nigerian Airways or someone else I would agree with you BUT IT WAS A US PLANE, A PLANE THAT HAS OVER 2,000 DESTINATIONS INSIDE THE US! (don't you get it??). And yes we should look at ourselves, if we had 1/10th of the security measures in place back on 9/11 those towers would still be there.

Actually champ, you should bone up on your history.

There was a bunch of warning signs, and reports of the 9-11 attack prior. They, being the higher powers that be, simply never worked up the chain of command through the acronym bureaucracy prior.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/

Just as the embassy knew in this case, the U.S. government knew prior to 9-11 and did nothing. So while you can blame the airlines, the government was tipped off and sat with it's thumb up it's proverbial ass.

So it actually comes down to, "what is it that YOU don't get". Even when the government has advanced warning, they do next to nothing with it because the same bloated bureaucracy still exists that the office of Homeland Security was supposed to correct in the first place and didn't.

:2 cents:

Not true.

I can usually get drugs past the sniffer dogs when i go to the nightclubs both here and abroad... :winkwink:

Again, i'm not so sure.

People like to talk shit and say they would have done this or they would have done that if it happened on a flight they were on, when in reality, if it did end up happening to them, they would shit their pants and not do one fucking thing. Apart from pray maybe... :2 cents:

I think your opinions are stupid and not practical.
I think the 'terrorists' won long ago and now every new 'security' measure is another victory for them, fuck fake security I'd rather die than have to wait in line while some retard that barely graduated high school tries to 'screen' me!

Ash-hahaha back? are you nuts?

Try starting something on a flight over here. The passengers will kill you. We've been doing it before 9/11 and will continue to do it.:thumbsup

Indeed! :thumbsup

Exactamundo.
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Thank you!.. Just like I said someone on our end should be accountable.

You have drug sniffing dogs at your nightclubs?

all muslims should be banned from flying. pretty simple if you ask me.

lolz jk all it boils down to is if someone wants shit to happen it can and will.

have you seen some of the things, some idiots try to bring on a plane even with all the new security in place? I so thankful for the new security measures because americans (yes i'm an american) are retards to begin with. and they argue about why they can't bring there switch blade or box cutter on the plane.

Not to mention that Ashcroft was the Attorney General, and not the Director of Homeland Security.

If what the OP is trying to say is that he wants one of the old guard on the case, the name he's looking for is either Tom Ridge or Michael Chertoff.

I think you are retarded.

ASHCROFT...Really?
 

Ashcroft... Really?

Ashcroft was the AG during the 911 attack. The same AG that had the (offensive) breasts on the statue covered for 8K?

Curtains for semi-nude justice statue
Attorney General John Ashcroft in front of the 'Spirit of Justice'
No longer will the 'Spirit of Justice' bare her breast
No longer will US Attorney General John Ashcroft appear in public with a semi-nude statue towering above him.

The US Justice Department has spent $8,000 on curtains to hide the statue from the cameras.

The female, art-deco "Spirit of Justice" statue, with one breast exposed, is located on the podium in the department's ornate Great Hall where news conferences are often held.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/178500...tatue300ap.jpg

The state department gave out the visa to this guy. The state department runs the embassy that his father gave a warning to. If you ask me this was more of a failure of the state department than homeland security.

You can keep make new rules to prevent the attacks of the past but they will always find a way around it. Everyone has to put their shoes through the X-ray machines because of the shoe bomber so this guy put the bomb in his underwear. Next time it will just be in a balloon up his ass if they start patting down our underwear.

We have to catch these guys much earlier and the state department could have done something about it.

http://www.trekp.com/posters/gw131-d...ialization.jpg

That would solve all problems.
Beam me up Scotty!