OUR RIGHTS just went down the toilet
 

Last Thursday, December 17, 2009, The White House released Obama's Executive Order ?Amending Executive Order 12425.? It grants INTERPOL (International Criminal Police Organization) a new level of full diplomatic immunity afforded to foreign embassies and select other ?International Organizations? as set forth in the United States International Organizations Immunities Act of 1945.

By removing language from President Reagan?s 1983 Executive Order 12425, this international law enforcement body now operates - now operates ? on American soil beyond the reach of our own top law enforcement arm, the FBI, and is immune from Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) requests. In addition, it is immune from any lawsuits by individual Americans.

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Interpol?s property and assets are no longer subject to search and confiscation, and its archives are now considered inviolable. This international police force (whose U.S. headquarters is in the Justice Department in Washington) will be completely unrestrained by the U.S. Constitution and American law while it operates in the United States and affects both Americans and American interests outside the United States.

Interpol will have more authority than U.S. agencies such as the FBI and CIA because it is not restrained by, answerable to, or required to obey U.S. law. And there is no redress for persons who believe they have been abused by Interpol.

Interpol works closely with international tribunals (such as the International Criminal Court ? which the United States has refused to join because of its sovereignty-surrendering provisions, though top Obama officials want us in it). It also works closely with foreign courts and law-enforcement authorities (such as those in Europe that are investigating former Bush administration officials for purported war crimes ? i.e., for actions taken in America?s defense).

Why would we elevate an international police force above American law? Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies? Why is it suddenly necessary to have, within the Justice Department, a repository for stashing government files which, therefore, will be beyond the ability of Congress, American law-enforcement, the media, and the American people to scrutinize?

Rick Moran at the American Thinker speculates that it might have something to do with putting the Bush administration on trial for so-called ?war crimes?, but also reminds us not to hit the panic button?yet

I would speculate that McCarthy has hit upon the reason; the president may solve the problem of ?torture trials? by turning the whole thing over to the International Criminal Court. There are several hands in the Obama foreign policy shop who would support this move, while he would definitely get back in the good graces of his far left base.

But that?s just speculation. Perhaps it?s terrorism related. Maybe he?s just trying to please his European friends. Perhaps its simply an extension of his oft-stated belief that America should surrender much of its sovereignty and move toward being merely a part of a worldwide government.

Oh, come on. Obama would never do anything that was not for your own good.

Well if he's the Anti-Christ like many believe him to be, then it's all part of setting up his one-world government which he will be leading.

oh yeah? did ya sleep when the patriot act was filed?

Slaves have no rights.

Welcome to Obama's Amerca.

this.


both parties continue to erode rights and ignore the constitution and have been doing so for many, many years. :2 cents:

You wingnuts and teabaggers are such massive pussies.

So do something about it. All you do is cry like girls.

Why shouldn't we grant Interpol authority in the States?

And why wouldn't an INTERNATIONAL police force's authority trump LOCAL police force's authority?

You're telling me that if an international criminal being chased by interpol enter's the States, interpol should just have to drop the chase and let the FBI take over a case and criminal they know nothing about? Wow, yeah cause that is real productive.

Or you're telling me, if that criminal enters bumfuck Idaho and is held up in some building. Joe Schmoe town sheriff should have the authority to trump interpol's authority?

Jesus Christ people, think for a god damn minute before you run around like a chicken with your head cut off believing every moronic negative slanted story you come across.

And yeah it "could" be a bad thing - interpol could just sweep in and take over the country and we'd be helpless and it's all big goverment's plan to control our lives. However my tin foil hat is in the wash right now so I have better things to do than get into some idiotic conspiracy theory.

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Yeah, the government has enslaved me to peddle porn and web development. Oh the horrendous life they have built for me.

quoted for major fucking truth :thumbsup

Did they build it or did you?

USA, the beacon of hope and freedom:2 cents:

Well shit! I built this successful life, living in a nice place, in one of the nicest communities in the state, working on some of the most incredible projects.

Fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was all me. I did all the work?!?!

I see the light now. I am a slave. The government should have done all this for me. Instead I did it all myself. I worked my ass off. Uhg, I am a slave. :(

2 more days and I am out of this shit hole. Thank God.

Europe is the place to be:thumbsup

People act like when stuff like this happens that citizens are going to start getting plucked off the streets and sucked into a black hole.

Trust me, if you're just living your life as an ordinary American citizen, this means absolutely nothing to you. Now if you're a terrorist, international or domestic, a few more people are going to be after you.

The same people afraid of Obama's move were cheering the Patriot Act.

If Bush had made this decision it would be the left complaining. Obama made it and the right is complaining.

Other countries have been a part of INTERPOL for years without any problems. America has just gotten on board.

The Obama administration believes in working with other countries and has dropped the "you're either with us or against us" crap that Bush piled on to make the rest of the world hate us.

I like to think that Obama is building International consensus. We will still have the same number of enemies, but maybe we'll gain some allies.

Trust me, with as much as we fucked up our own economy, causing a ripple effect in others, we REALLY need friends right now. We are not in a position to burn bridges.

Holy crap, there are other people on GFY with a brain. :thumbsup

Yeah, that's brilliant. Make fun of the States, and tell someone to move to Europe.


.... In a thread about INTERPOL.

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Just delaying the inevitable. Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.

So why would you advocate more and more of them taking over every aspect of your life? Harry and Nancy will be working behind closed doors because they don't want any outside influence on deciding the future of your health. This is actually what they said.. In 6 days codex alimentarius kicks in which will regulate on a World scale everything from your herbs to vitamins and more. I could go on and on but all of this stuff means more and more of these types of people telling you how to live your life and charging you out the ass to do it.

They are treating you like a slave and you don't even realize it. They DO believe they know whats better for you and this World. You will not be unaffected in all of this no matter how great you might believe things are going..

Thanks, man!

And to those that want to pigeon hole me, I am neither right nor left.

Obama has thus far pissed on the gay rights me promised me. He sometimes cannot find his spine when he really needs it. He is on board with the tons of deficient spending that Congress is doing and that greatly worries me.

Last month I probably would have given him a personal approval rating of 40%. I am seeing small signs of a economic turnaround and a healthcare bill moving along that will require insurance companies to cover me if I am willing to pay them (which I don't have now). I currently give him a 55% approval rating -- subject to change.

Having said that, this INTERPOL issue is not on my radar and does not concern me or anyone I know.

Remember, just YESTERDAY someone tried to blow up a plane over Detroit. We did not win the war on terror. There is no winning the war on terror. It's countries (we're not the only one's they hate) against individuals that hate them. We're not fighting another army. We're fighting individuals willing to blow themselves up to deny us our way of life.

How am I advocating anyone taking any aspect of my life away.

I'm not a terrorist or international criminal. Interpol getting legal authority doesn't affect me at all. It doesn't bear any affect in the slightest to my life, or my rights.

Let's say you say something about some foreign official believing that you have the "right" to say what you wish here in America. Well in that country you don't have said rights. In fact they will shoot you dead for saying it. Well said foreign official calls up "World Police" and says "go get that guy and bring him to me.." After all, this "world police" force does "trump" all state and national laws.. I mean if we can go into other countries an grab up "detainee's just because someone said that person did this or that and hold them "indefinitely" then why doesn't the same apply to you? See how that works?

Living outside of DC and having a social circle that includes more than a handful of Congressional staffers, some Obama admin slaves and even a Congressman, you give our government WAY TOO much credit with your conspiracy theories.

The most that happens is some back scratching for businesses and vice versa. That has gone on forever and always will.

Anyone ever notice that the people with the biggest and grandest conspiracy theories to share are also always the first to say that government can't get anything right?

You can't have it both ways.

You people keep saying this or that isn't going to happen and they keep moving right along in doing it. How many times over the past year have I been saying exactly what they were going to do with this health plan and over and over those like yourself in denial keep saying "that's not going to happen" and over and over they prove you wrong. When will you finally get it? These people aren't working for you. They are working against you.

Then fucking move chicken little. But you won't. Why? I mean if your rights are being stolen then you should either be uprising against this governent or getting the fuck out of here. You do neither. That tells me even you don't believe your own bullshit.

onwebcam = wackadoo

You obviously know nothing about Interpol, since that is not how the organization operates:

From the Interpol website:

INTERPOL's six priority crime areas

Drugs and criminal organizations

Tackling the growing problem of drug abuse and trafficking, often linked to other crimes.

Financial and High-tech Crime

Combating counterfeiting, payment card fraud, intellectual property and cyber-crime.

Fugitives

Tracing fugitives, who threaten public safety and undermine criminal justice systems.

Public safety and terrorism

Countering terrorism, which threatens public safety and world security.

Trafficking in human beings

Fighting abuse and exploitation of people, which breach human rights and destroy lives.

Corruption

'Working together towards a corruption-free world by promoting and defending integrity, justice and the rule of law.?

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INTERPOL uses a system of colour-coded international notices to locate, arrest or provide warnings about fugitives and other criminals. In 2007 alone, co-operation between INTERPOL?s member countries led to more than 5,200 arrests across the globe.

ADG

My entire life you conspiracy nuts have been saying basically the same things...and yet I have yet to be affected in any substantial way. Local government has always been more of a pain in the ass for me than anything the Federal Government has done.

Please specify anything that you have said about "this health plan" (BTW there is not a health plan as of this point in time) and specify what it is that people keep saying "that's not going to happen" and specify what it is that "over and over "they" prove you wrong".

You're so fucking stupid it's ridiculous. I don't give a fuck if a person is black, white, brown, purple, Jewish, Christian, Islamic or whatever. EVERYONE needs to mind their own fucking business and affairs and quit trying to tell others how to live.

:1orglaugh With all due respect, I highly doubt that post will do anything to ease anyone's concerns.

It's obvious that you drink alot of koolaid...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh You're the one who buys all their bullshit.. I don't buy any of it.. Who's drinking what?

Holy crap! They could spend years in Washington! lmao Don't think it will be used for that though.. Nah only for the slaves.

Bush would never do something like this. i mean Obama...

i mean Bush

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It's all just part of that "Hope and Change" ....LOL

Interpol does not have to obey US law? I see.

You are the one that buys into the conspiracy theories... I call that being a gullible gimp.

I don't buy "conspiracy theories" I do my OWN research and KNOW based on said research who and what the REAL problem is.

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You people keep saying this or that isn't going to happen and they keep moving right along in doing it. How many times over the past year have I been saying exactly what they were going to do with this health plan and over and over those like yourself in denial keep saying "that's not going to happen" and over and over they prove you wrong. When will you finally get it? These people aren't working for you. They are working against you.
My entire life you conspiracy nuts have been saying basically the same things...and yet I have yet to be affected in any substantial way. Local government has always been more of a pain in the ass for me than anything the Federal Government has done.

Please specify anything that you have said about "this health plan" (BTW there is not a health plan as of this point in time) and specify what it is that people keep saying "that's not going to happen" and specify what it is that "over and over "they" prove you wrong".

Interesting... then how do you get 99% of everything you say so wrong? :error

You'll have to do your own search. You'll find it time and time again. I really don't care to keep explaining it to you. In summary this has nothing to do with health and everything to do with control of you and your money. They will set all sorts of regulations, if you don't pay for it you will go to jail, the pharma and insurance companies will be the only ones who will benefit. Don't keep telling me this isn't a "plan" because it is. These people have written about everything they are doing long before now. You just have to read their own writings and to an extent to what they say but in most cases reverse everything they say and that's what you get.. It is a plan and a conspiracy that has long been in the works. The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a corporation and just like every other business they have a business pan. Sure things have to be altered do to unforeseen issues that arise but eventually "the plan" gets back on track. A plan which is just a part of a much larger scheme.

What do yo mean by local? Your police department and judges or what?

Have you even read the bill? Btw... I agree with you in the sense that the current Senate bill is a slick way to place additional penalties on the people who don't file taxes.

I knew this guy a long time ago that used Ketamine... he told me that he had discovered that we (our solar system) were actually like an atom and that we were being watched through a microscope... which we perceived to be the sun. In your research, have you discovered anything like that?

onewebcam - serious question - why would you promote an article that is written by someone who is connected to the U.S. Department of Defense?

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...%27_Roundtable

It's A LOT more than just that.


Sure haven't we all come across those types of people. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Now speaking of the sun. For 2000 years people have believed that there was this guy names Jesus born on December 25th. When in reality the "sun" is born on December 25th. So who's crazy? Those who believe in a mythical character or the one who has done his own research on that and many other topics only to find that those who are our "leaders" are in reality leading by "deception."

Local government is city and county governments...and the fact that you do not know what local government is speaks volumns. BTW...have you ever heard of State Governments.