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TDF 12-16-2002 07:38 PM

asian sponsors
 
heres da deal...I want to start putting up some links of asian galleries but I have no clue what asians like.For instance, I see a lot of asian galleries that are going to a sponsor but with penis pill sponsors as text links(dead serious). For those that push asian content what seems to be popular?

Kiko_Wu 12-16-2002 08:04 PM

Asian is one of those niches where you really, really have to know your audience well. It's like feet, if you want to sell to foot fetish guys you either have to be into feet or spend a lot of time learning about the fetish. With Asian there's this whole complex dynamic of "we want to fuck the little sluts" but at the same time "rescue" them while showing off our sincere interest in Asian culture (Bruce Lee poster on the wall). There's also this weird hierarchy about which nationalities Rice Queens (guys who are into Asian girls) think are best. ie Korean is better then Chinese (even though there is almost no Chinese porn with which to form a comparison). In terms of conversion either exclusive content site or the new broadband movie sites are your best bet.

eru 12-16-2002 08:47 PM

Kiko speaks good words of wisdom. If you are looking to market to Asian NON-english speaking audiences, promote hgmo.com

Also, I hear 99bb.com is kickin' for English and Japanese-language


Avoid EVERY Asian site run by a big player -- you'll get crappy ratios and high chargebacks.



As for Chinese porn vs. K-Porn, I do think Korean porn is better. I have seen porn movies from both and the sex scenes in the Chinese movies are laughably (sp) fake. Korean porn movies -- at least the ones I have seen -- are pretty damn good; they have some pretty hot girls, very good sex scenes even though penetration is not shown (its not censored, just the camera is angeld so you dont see of the lower genitalia).

I admit that the only Chinese porn I have really watched are those fictional pornos that take place like a 1000 years ago such as Sex and Zen.

Morgan 12-16-2002 08:57 PM

Fuckin awesome site:

http://www.whitesonasians.com/

Kiko_Wu 12-16-2002 09:31 PM

Oh I agree, porn produced in China is laughable. I was referring to the grossly uneducated and bias comparisons of the women of different nationalities.

I really want to send some exit traffic to 99bb.com BUT their English tour lists the charge amount in Euro- kind of tough with the average American surfer.

I lot of it is about "priming" the surfer, with the Asian niche you really have to do a lot of selling before they hit the front end of the site. Surfers are too used to free (usually illegal) Asian content. So you really have to put a fair amount of work into your pitch- and like any text sell that means knowing your customer.

Pornwolf 12-16-2002 10:05 PM

I like south east asian babes. Would that make me a Brown Rice queen?

TDF 12-17-2002 12:39 AM

got wice bitch..excellent advice all

Pornkings 12-17-2002 01:05 AM

Our new Improved pornkings has asian sites and tgp galleries

TDF try us out :winkwink:

TripleForce 12-17-2002 01:32 AM

If you interested in 50/50 partnership program check my sig.

Shoplifter 12-17-2002 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kiko_Wu
With Asian there's this whole complex dynamic of "we want to fuck the little sluts" but at the same time "rescue" them while showing off our sincere interest in Asian culture (Bruce Lee poster on the wall).
I think that selling Asian content from the standpoint of all Asian women being demure powerless schoolgirls is a bit passe.

A lot of the new manifestations of Asian culture and fashion are actually about giving women a powerful identity. I find that the power Kogal stuff sells way better than the old Sailor Suit stuff.
I would send my traffic to one of the smaller nich movie sites.

kangaroo 12-17-2002 02:54 AM

Well...........How about Thai girl?

eru 12-17-2002 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kangaroo
Well...........How about Thai girl?
Honostly, I think your average Asian surfer will prefer north Asian models (Japanese, Korean, Chinese) over Thai.

L0stMind 12-17-2002 03:30 AM

Hmmm, Kiko thats some crazy analysation :)

Cash 12-17-2002 03:42 AM

The first 2 in my sig have Asian sites and they convert pretty well for me, esp. the Asian sex free magazine.
Another Asian free mailer you can use is here:

Gamma's Asian free mailer

:thumbsup

.:Frog:. 12-17-2002 05:43 AM

As Eru said, don't bother to use a sponsor that isn't focused on the asian niche. ALL the popular english sponsors like topbucks, for example have shitty asian sites.

Find sites using Japanese/Korean/Chinese girls.
I wouldn't touch a site using Flips and Thai girls.

Remember there are many asian surfers who might want to signup at your site, and guess what?
Japan/Korea/China are the countries with alot of internet use....

Lord Assmore 12-17-2002 05:46 AM

Asian content where the pussy isn't pixelated and censored -- like in most scans floating around -- is quite poplular.

shunga 12-17-2002 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by .:Frog:.
Find sites using Japanese/Korean/Chinese girls.
I wouldn't touch a site using Flips and Thai girls.

Thai is actually a good sub-niche, which is what the Asian niche is all about.

Brent 12-17-2002 11:07 AM

goto www.sexinc.com to promote asian sites

home of www.redlightasia.com

1000's of exclusive asian videos :thumbsup

Kiko_Wu 12-17-2002 11:14 AM

Well Thai is actually two niches, there is the darker skinned sort of hotel room amateur porn and the higher end Thai stuff like Brad Koerner shoots which is mostly girls who are all or part Chinese. I think the amateur hotel room stuff would be a great niche if A. the marketing was not quite so "lowest common denominator" sleazy and B. the girls were of age. Lets get serous, the Thai girls showing up on TGPs are no way in a million years 18 years old. And none of this "Asians just look young" I'm Asian- I know what a 16 year old looks like. It's not all the sites, but there are a few serous offenders here which should clean up their act and give everyone a decent, well run niche to promote.

Quote:

I think that selling Asian content from the standpoint of all Asian women being demure powerless schoolgirls is a bit passe.
Oh I agree. I was saying that years ago to Asian webmasters and going nowhere. Japanese may like raped schoolgirls but the American market for that kind of thing is pretty small. After Chinatown-Girls was successful shooting full time exclusive Asian content in the US you saw a lot of other sites spring up copying the marketing message nearly verbatim, having the girls shoot in the sites t-shirt etc.

shunga 12-17-2002 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kiko_Wu
[B]Well Thai is actually two niches, there is the darker skinned sort of hotel room amateur porn and the higher end Thai stuff like Brad Koerner shoots which is mostly girls who are all or part Chinese. I think the amateur hotel room stuff would be a great niche if A. the marketing was not quite so "lowest common denominator" sleazy and B. the girls were of age.[B]
I think the sleaze aspect is actually the attraction with that, but I haven't seen it done well, so far. I would agree it's usually overdone.

SABAI 12-17-2002 01:00 PM

i think that south east asian and north asians sell the same....
but asian audience are looking more for white skin than brown skin....
asian audiences prefer softcore than hardcore....
americans and europeans don't care wether white or brown skin as long as its asian.......
at http://asian-passions.com we have thai and japanese models and it seems that they are equally demanded by our members....
we ask our members what they prefer but they stay pretty divided ...... the thing that is sure is that you have to stay away from the asian sites from big sponsors as their content is 50 years old and not original at all also they just stuff the site with the content without even taking care of what the members want............we at explosivecash (see sig) are splitting the sites between us depending on what niches we know best and i'm in charge of the asian site http://asian-passions.com ... i'm dedicated to it....i listen to the members and the resellers and try to include the suggestions i get in the site .... i don't know about others but that is the way i believe the paysites should be run, and sofar after two weeks online asian-passions.com is rocking !!
i'm even surprised by the results, so i will keep to work on it this way, not alone but with my members and my resellers and with the insight of other webmasters (thanks particulary to kiko who gave me good advice).......the hardest part of running a successful asian site is the content..... its hard to find fresh and original content , for this i wish i was running a teens/babes site.....

anyways....i love my job ;)


cheers
Sabai

Pornkings 12-17-2002 01:15 PM

I think Asain guys like a mix of girls to look at but its the white guys with yellow fever who join. so all asians are hot to them from what I gather.

Kiko_Wu 12-17-2002 01:28 PM

I agree Asians prefer the lighter skin, for the Chinese it's a class thing. If you have dark skin that means you work in the fields and are low class. Whenever I get a dark tan for summer my mom totally freaks.

I agree White guys with Asian fever are still represent the bulk of subscribers. That's why you have to be a little careful with the sleazy sells, I've notices there's a threshold where if you go too far it's not titillating it just pisses them off. It's sort of like trying to sell an Ebony site using the N word. The bottom line is that our customers LIKE Asian girls so if you put them down too much it's just working against your own interest.

LUCL0NELY 12-17-2002 01:38 PM

politicans fuck school girls/girls who work for them.

ratio = 1:25 for Hong Kong traffic.



I hope you know what i mean.

B40 12-17-2002 05:06 PM

Try Stiffy Cash


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