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Joshua G 11-20-2009 10:04 AM

Cops surfing facebook to bust underage drinking
 
another example of the creeping police state we are living in...

http://www.lacrossetribune.com/news/...cc4c002e0.html

University of Wisconsin-La Crosse student Adam Bauer has nearly 400 friends on Facebook. He got an offer for a new one about a month ago. ?She was a good-looking girl. I usually don?t accept friends I don?t know, but I randomly accepted this one for some reason,? the 19-year-old said.

He thinks that led to his invitation to come down to the La Crosse police station, where an officer laid out photos from Facebook of Bauer holding a beer ? and then ticketed him for underage drinking.

The police report said Bauer admitted drinking, which he denies. But he did plead no contest in municipal court Wednesday and will pay a $227 fine.

He was among at least eight people who said Wednesday they had been cited for underage drinking based on photos on social networking sites.

?I just can?t believe it. I feel like I?m in a science fiction movie, like they are always watching. When does it end?? Bauer said after court Wednesday.

Social networking sites are among many new tools law enforcement has adopted to

find underage drinkers, said La Crosse police officer Al Iverson, who works in alcohol compliance and education.

?Law enforcement has to evolve with technology,? Iverson said. ?It has to

happen. It is a necessity ?not just for underage drinking.?

Social networking sites are used to catch sexual predators as well, he noted.

But Bauer said, ?I think there are a lot worse things (police) could be spending their time on.?

The photos officers found were of him, his roommates and a couple friends hanging out at his house, Bauer said.

?We were actually trying to be safe and not go out on the town and get crazy,? he said.

Bauer?s friend, 20-year-old UW-L sophomore Tyrell Luebker, also was tagged for underage drinking based on Facebook photos. He, too, pleaded no contest Wednesday.

?I feel like it is shady police work and a waste of taxpayer money to have him (an officer) sit on the computer on Facebook when he could actually be doing police work,? said Luebker.

Iverson pointed out the students still were caught in an illegal act, one they felt comfortable and confident enough about to put photos of on the Internet. Posting those photos, he added, helps glamorize alcohol consumption and binge drinking.

Someone else posted photos on a Facebook site of UW-L sophomores Brianna Niesen and Cassie Stenholt holding beer, but they still ended up in court Wednesday pleading no contest and getting fined.

The practice ultimately could hurt the positive alliance law enforcement wants to build with students so they will report crimes, Niesen said.

?I feel like it is a breach of privacy,? Stenholt said. ?You feel like you should be able to trust cops.?

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BradM 11-20-2009 10:06 AM

Ya this is overall a very bad idea.

Dirty Dane 11-20-2009 10:20 AM

Laws are laws, but I do not understand why 19, 20 year old adults are called/considered "underage". :1orglaugh

Tom_PM 11-20-2009 10:23 AM

Welp, it's hard to deny that if it were someone who had stolen something and photographed their crime and put it on facebook.. that they are stupid and should be busted for the crime and for being so stupid.

Tom_PM 11-20-2009 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 16570175)
Laws are laws, but I do not understand why 19, 20 year old adults are called/considered "underage". :1orglaugh

exactly.

You can vote and fight and die in war, but dont you dare drink beer.

Anal Hobbit 11-20-2009 10:31 AM

fucking-around-and-business-discussion/618402-hot-tip-ive-gotten-18-20-ass-60-days.html
Oh shit!

cherrylula 11-20-2009 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16570194)
exactly.

You can vote and fight and die in war, but dont you dare drink beer.

they should raise military age to 21 :winkwink:

woj 11-20-2009 10:39 AM

that's pretty lame... they should work on stopping the real crimes, not some college guys having a few beers...

slapass 11-20-2009 10:39 AM

So how dumb do you have to be to put photos of you doing illegal things on facebook?

Anal Hobbit 11-20-2009 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 16570228)
So how dumb do you have to be to put photos of you doing illegal things on facebook?

Hmmmmmmmm..
So, even with my privacy settings its not a good idea?

Joshua G 11-20-2009 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 16570228)
So how dumb do you have to be to put photos of you doing illegal things on facebook?

it's pretty stupid...but its comes down to degree of crime in question. Don't these Mayberry jonny laws have better things to do with their time?

I bet the very cops pulling this shit drank a beer when they were 18 too.

BlackCrayon 11-20-2009 11:38 AM

wow stupid. i guess all the people with pics of smoking joints and doing lines better remove them.

beerptrol 11-20-2009 11:41 AM

If you're dumb enough to break the law and then post photos/video of you doing so.......

czarina 11-20-2009 11:44 AM

if you're old enough to f*ck and go to war, you're old enough to drink.

Anyway, welcome to AmeriKa!

Tom_PM 11-20-2009 11:45 AM

Oh when will children learn to always use an opaque plastic cup and photoshop a bush in front of the keg!!

:fart

d-null 11-20-2009 11:45 AM

I dont understand how this could ever stick, they must have had very poor legal advice.... isn't the onus of proof on the police? the bottles could have had water or juice in them, could the police prove with any reasonable doubt that they didnt?

very bad idea letting the police get away with convictions on this :2 cents:

marketsmart 11-20-2009 11:47 AM

so i guess i should take down those pictures of me fucking a goat on FB...

MaDalton 11-20-2009 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 16570203)
they should raise military age to 21 :winkwink:

until then most would have realized that it's a bad idea - you have to get them young and stupid

fryer 11-20-2009 12:25 PM

What a waste of time.

baddog 11-20-2009 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina (Post 16570390)
if you're old enough to f*ck and go to war, you're old enough to drink.

Anyway, welcome to AmeriKa!

Bullshit.

borked 11-20-2009 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 16570394)
I dont understand how this could ever stick, they must have had very poor legal advice.... isn't the onus of proof on the police? the bottles could have had water or juice in them, could the police prove with any reasonable doubt that they didnt?

very bad idea letting the police get away with convictions on this :2 cents:

or prove that the photos were taken in a country where at that age it's illegal to drink alcohol...

The Heron 11-20-2009 12:30 PM

We don't want to glamourize drinking... oh wait just saw a budlight commercial on tv and a miller ad in the magazine... ha

Robbie 11-20-2009 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 16570367)
it's pretty stupid...but its comes down to degree of crime in question. Don't these Mayberry jonny laws have better things to do with their time?

I bet the very cops pulling this shit drank a beer when they were 18 too.

18 my ass...if they were red blooded males they were drinking beers at 15 like the rest of us did.

But thank God that the "law" is making sure that we're all safe by fighting "crime" and keeping all those 18, 19, and 20 year olds from having a drink. What a great "free" country we live in.

d-null 11-20-2009 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 16570579)
or prove that the photos were taken in a country where at that age it's illegal to drink alcohol...

good point... either way they were fools to plead guilty

Barefootsies 11-20-2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 16570220)
that's pretty lame... they should work on stopping the real crimes, not some college guys having a few beers...

Exactly.

I think any state wasting their time doing these small, or petty, law enforcement issues should have their budgets cut. Once they are forced to actually focus on REAL crimes, then they could have some funding again.

Frankly, I am tired of the cops and law enforcement in general, whining they need more money. Then they go out and buy jetskiis, and tanks for drug raids, and putting more troopers on the road for seat belts, and speed enforcement. Or anytime someone is pulled over for some speeding offense you have 2-3 cop cars on the scene.

At the same time there are many other crimes that could use some attention.
:disgust

Robbie 11-20-2009 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16570657)
I think any state wasting their time doing these small, or petty, law enforcement issues should have their budgets cut.

That won't happen because they are taking direction from elected officials. We need to start voting these people out on a local level.

Problem is there are so many local elected officials. Does anybody really know who their judges are? Or the sheriff? Most people probably just vote party lines. If they are Republican they vote all Republican, if they are Democrat they vote all Dems.

The ideal situation would be to not only follow through on voting out the people responsible for this kind of wasteful idiocy...but also to vote IN people who understand the political consequences of it.

Unfortunately, the damn churches have organized their membership into powerful voting blocks locally across the country. And the elected officials are doing the bidding of the voting constituency.

Matt 26z 11-20-2009 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16570474)
until then most would have realized that it's a bad idea - you have to get them young and stupid

That's how they get soldiers to fight on the front lines. Take the Iraq war for instance. I was keeping some notes during the initial invasion. Teenage soldiers made up 6.9% of the total US armed forces, yet accounted for 46% of the deaths during the early stages of the war. That is where the infant in infantry comes from. The young soldier's lives are still expendable to their country at that age.


I think a good middle of the road for the drinking age in the US would be to legalize a lesser alcohol content for 18-20.


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