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Evil Chris 11-11-2009 11:25 AM

The January (show issue) of AVN?
 
Contact me to make sure you have your ad reserved for this very BIG and highly distributed issue of AVN magazine!

chrisavn //at// gmail.com

I'm the new Chris. :thumbsup

JFK 11-11-2009 12:05 PM

you got mail :thumbsup:thumbsup

B O B 11-11-2009 12:34 PM

bump for you Chris!

amacontent 11-11-2009 12:35 PM

How many booths exhibited last year, how many are confirmed this year?

B2BwithJoeD 11-11-2009 12:38 PM

Europeans Billing Europe!
 
Good to see the newbie hitting the boards :winkwink:

Make 2010 a great year :thumbsup

Those cutting back on effective targeted marketing may not make it to the end of it...

MeganAVN 11-11-2009 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 16539702)
How many booths exhibited last year, how many are confirmed this year?

RAIN was completely sold out last year and as of right now I only have a few booths remaining! Let me know if you are interested in a booth either by email [email protected] or by IM MeganAVN. Hope to see you at the show :)

jhauser 11-11-2009 03:18 PM

RAIN was a great way to mix business with pleasure. We are looking forward to seeing what AVN has in store for us at Vegas.

alias 11-11-2009 03:22 PM

That would be a smart issue to buy ads in for sure.

amacontent 11-11-2009 06:40 PM

I was speaking of AVN not Internext. As far as booths. Last year AVN show floor was half the size as prior year. Im wondering if its cut in half again.

Evil Chris 11-11-2009 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 16541187)
I was speaking of AVN not Internext. As far as booths. Last year AVN show floor was half the size as prior year. Im wondering if its cut in half again.

Joe, you probably know that AVN puts their name on the AEE show, but has little to actually do with the selling of booths and floorspace for that show. It's operated independently by an outside agency. However, there's no indication that the show will be cut in half.
http://show.adultentertainmentexpo.com/

amacontent 11-11-2009 08:28 PM

My point is show has dramatically decreased in size ( AVN ) in last couple years. Most noticably last year. Im very curious as to number of exhibitors this year. I will once again say AVN has done this to themselves with the total disreguard for up and coming companies years back.

LoveSandra 11-11-2009 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B O B (Post 16539697)
bump for you Chris!

:2 cents::thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

FreeHugeMovies 11-11-2009 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 16541448)
My point is show has dramatically decreased in size ( AVN ) in last couple years. Most noticably last year. Im very curious as to number of exhibitors this year. I will once again say AVN has done this to themselves with the total disreguard for up and coming companies years back.

and prices

pornlaw 11-12-2009 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 16541448)
My point is show has dramatically decreased in size ( AVN ) in last couple years. Most noticably last year. Im very curious as to number of exhibitors this year. I will once again say AVN has done this to themselves with the total disreguard for up and coming companies years back.

The show is down to one floor and if you look at the show floor plan on the link that Chris has provided, anywhere from 33% to 50% of the show remains unsold.

Its going to feel like a ghost town at AEE this year. CES has moved out of the Sands.

Sharky 11-12-2009 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeganAVN (Post 16539924)
RAIN was completely sold out last year and as of right now I only have a few booths remaining! Let me know if you are interested in a booth either by email [email protected] or by IM MeganAVN. Hope to see you at the show :)

Whoa, Megan posting on a board!?!?! Welcome to GFY;-)

Evil Chris 11-12-2009 09:19 AM

Michael and Joe... yes and yes. We all know that participation is lower then previous years. It's just the nature of the beast right now. Internext used to FILL the Sands Expo, and now it's hosted where size makes sense.

Like you, I'm pointing out the obvious. Regardless, if this is your business (and it is), you need to attend (if not exhibit at) AEE or Internext or both.

Not doing so is at your own business peril.

pornlaw 11-12-2009 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 16542947)
Internext used to FILL the Sands Expo, and now it's hosted where size makes sense.

When was Internext held at the Sands Expo ? I might be wrong but I dont remember it being in the Sands. I remember it being at Mandalay prior to The Palms. Are you confusing AVN/AEE with Internext ?

Serious question... I have only gone to the past 5 or so Internext shows.

Evil Chris 11-12-2009 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 16543171)
When was Internext held at the Sands Expo ? I might be wrong but I dont remember it being in the Sands. I remember it being at Mandalay prior to The Palms. Are you confusing AVN/AEE with Internext ?

Serious question... I have only gone to the past 5 or so Internext shows.

[history lesson]

In the autumn of 1999 it was held in Miami, with the spring show in 2000 in New Orleans.
Then in January 2001/2002/2003/2004 it was at the Sands.
Internext - Sands Expo Center - Las Vegas, January 6 - 8, 2003
Internext - Las Vegas, Jan 5 - 7, 2004

Links courtesy of FUBAR. JFK was taking pics prior to 2003 of course, but not as many as he does now. :thumbsup


The first summer Internext in Hollywood was in 2002 and it's been there each summer since.
The Sands was used twice in 2001. Once in January, and again in June.

[/history lesson]

Les Grossman 11-12-2009 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 16542947)
Michael and Joe... yes and yes. We all know that participation is lower then previous years. It's just the nature of the beast right now. Internext used to FILL the Sands Expo, and now it's hosted where size makes sense.

I have a fairly large 6 bedroom home in Vegas, with a big pool in the back. You can hold this shin dig at my place. Lets me honest, everyone will be able to fit. Shuttle them in with buses so parking is not an issue, it may work. You'd save a shit load of money.

pornlaw 11-12-2009 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 16543314)
[history lesson]

In the autumn of 1999 it was held in Miami, with the spring show in 2000 in New Orleans.
Then in January 2001/2002/2003/2004 it was at the Sands.
Internext - Sands Expo Center - Las Vegas, January 6 - 8, 2003
Internext - Las Vegas, Jan 5 - 7, 2004

Links courtesy of FUBAR. JFK was taking pics prior to 2003 of course, but not as many as he does now. :thumbsup


The first summer Internext in Hollywood was in 2002 and it's been there each summer since.
The Sands was used twice in 2001. Once in January, and again in June.

[/history lesson]

Thanks....

Evil Chris 11-12-2009 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 16543410)
Thanks....

A pleasure. :thumbsup
Those shows at the Sands were massive. What were you doing back then?

I'm not even sure we've met. Hopefully soon.

fris 11-12-2009 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 16541187)
I was speaking of AVN not Internext. As far as booths. Last year AVN show floor was half the size as prior year. Im wondering if its cut in half again.

5 years from now it will be the size of a shoebox

amacontent 11-12-2009 01:34 PM

Its still a great way to meet up with some friends in Vegas, but from my point of view, advertising in AVN is a complete waste of money unless you wanna win an AVN award. And even then its still useless... AVN is and was all about

Vivid
Wicked
Evil Angel
Digital
Jules Jordan

Im my eyes they are getting exactly what they deserve..ghost towns of a show in comparison to very recent. They told me and many others like me to basically, stay at the back of the show and behave yourself. But they gladly tok my $5000 a month for ad space.
I wont even get into the joke called the AVN awards. ..or should we call it ..who spent most in advertising awards.

A successfu; buisness should always plan for the future..and 1000% AVN has not. Hence 33% unfilled booths as Pornlaw said.

Theo 11-12-2009 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 16543998)
I wont even get into the joke called the AVN awards. ..or should we call it ..who spent most in advertising awards.

there is a transparent voting procedure for AVN Awards, we welcome you at office to audit it. Send me an email.

Les Grossman 11-12-2009 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 16543998)
Its still a great way to meet up with some friends in Vegas, but from my point of view, advertising in AVN is a complete waste of money unless you wanna win an AVN award. And even then its still useless... AVN is and was all about

Vivid
Wicked
Evil Angel
Digital
Jules Jordan

Im my eyes they are getting exactly what they deserve..ghost towns of a show in comparison to very recent. They told me and many others like me to basically, stay at the back of the show and behave yourself. But they gladly took my $5000 a month for ad space.

I wont even get into the joke called the AVN awards. ..or should we call it ..who spent most in advertising awards.

I know about a company, lets call them company X, who was upgrading to a full page ad with AVN. In return, the AVN rep was going to see what he could do about company X winning some awards. They were also going to get more attention in the magazine with interviews and product write-ups.

Low and behold, for the first time ever, company X is now winning awards. What a coincidence.

Of course, I'm not saying the AVN awards are rigged. I'm just saying, what a coincidence.

Les Grossman 11-12-2009 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel (Post 16544154)
there is a transparent voting procedure for AVN Awards, we welcome you at office to audit it. Send me an email.

You insult the entire industry when you make comments like this.

Elli 11-12-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 16543951)
A pleasure. :thumbsup
Those shows at the Sands were massive. What were you doing back then?

I'm not even sure we've met. Hopefully soon.

Those were good times :) Remember the Lightspeed jet rides? :)

thehand 11-12-2009 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 16543951)
A pleasure. :thumbsup
Those shows at the Sands were massive. What were you doing back then?

I'm not even sure we've met. Hopefully soon.

I was there:-) - Hi Chris :thumbsup

Theo 11-12-2009 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Grossman (Post 16544215)
You insult the entire industry when you make comments like this.

I don't insult anyone, rather the opposite.

I'm well aware of the process, the enormous work behind it and on top of that the web development we put for the voting process system. Additionally, for the 1st time we are making in few days available the AVN Viewers Choice Awards for 6 categories.

amacontent 11-12-2009 02:52 PM

Cmon Soul Rebel.. who are you kidding. The small guys never stood a chance in AVNs eyes. They pushed us to the back of the shows constantly. Now that some of the big boys arent exhibiting.. its like the open desert on the show floor. The AVN awards are a FUCKING JOKE. You can show me whatever you want in your office. Come to my office and Ill show you I make 10 dollars a year. AVN never gave TWO STINKING FUCKS about anyone else but mostly the list I showed you earlier in this post. And now they are paying the price.
As far as the awards.. please dont insult our intelligence.

Theo 11-12-2009 03:05 PM

amacontent, you are wrong and I'm not trying to insult anyone. AVN is not going to hunt down all adult content producers to review their productions. It receives dvd titles for the review process by mail once the dates are given to public.

My knowledge of studios and content production co. is rather small, yet again I recognize most of them. Why? Because most small production co. are less informed and in general do not send any dvd to AVN's office. Of course that's not the case with the studios you posted and not only those. I have no doubt if everyone was doing that we would end up with a logistics problems, but that's another thing and not mine to figure out. The audit of the procedure is welcomed by Darren Roberts, he has done that before and I'm just extending this to you.

notime 11-12-2009 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 16543314)
[history lesson]

In the autumn of 1999 it was held in Miami, with the spring show in 2000 in New Orleans.
Then in January 2001/2002/2003/2004 it was at the Sands.
Internext - Sands Expo Center - Las Vegas, January 6 - 8, 2003
Internext - Las Vegas, Jan 5 - 7, 2004

Links courtesy of FUBAR. JFK was taking pics prior to 2003 of course, but not as many as he does now. :thumbsup


The first summer Internext in Hollywood was in 2002 and it's been there each summer since.
The Sands was used twice in 2001. Once in January, and again in June.

[/history lesson]

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/archi.../zP1010019.jpg

Is this Baddog 2004 style?
Never really looked at the old Fubar pics untill today.
It's fun browsing around the old archives to see who's still here.

amacontent 11-12-2009 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel (Post 16544478)
amacontent, you are wrong and I'm not trying to insult anyone. AVN is not going to hunt down all adult content producers to review their productions. It receives dvd titles for the review process by mail once the dates are given to public.

My knowledge of studios and content production co. is rather small, yet again I recognize most of them. Why? Because most small production co. are less informed and in general do not send any dvd to AVN's office. Of course that's not the case with the studios you posted and not only those. I have no doubt if everyone was doing that we would end up with a logistics problems, but that's another thing and not mine to figure out. The audit of the procedure is welcomed by Darren Roberts, he has done that before and I'm just extending this to you.

Dont tell me that.. I sent my dvds for 5 years for AVN awards.. and I watched some of the winners. YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME. Please stop trying to justify your job here on GFY. Im sure you work very hard and a re a great guy... BUT PLEASE MAN .

pornlaw 11-12-2009 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel (Post 16544154)
there is a transparent voting procedure for AVN Awards, we welcome you at office to audit it. Send me an email.

Seriously ??? Has Darren Roberts or Paul Feishbein authorized you to offer audits of the AVN Award voting ?? You do work for AVN and therefore, I will take you up on that....Thanks.

Please contact me with a date and time... michael(at)fattlegal.com

Raja 11-12-2009 07:24 PM

Chris I dropped you an icq. Hit me up when you get a get a chance.
Raja

charlieb 11-12-2009 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 16545831)
Seriously ??? Has Darren Roberts or Paul Feishbein authorized you to offer audits of the AVN Award voting ?? You do work for AVN and therefore, I will take you up on that....Thanks.

Please contact me with a date and time... michael(at)fattlegal.com

That is nice of you Michael to give up your time to clear up this matter :winkwink:

Theo 11-13-2009 02:07 AM

AVN did that in that past and I don't see an issue not to be repeated. I told this to amacontent knowing he is far from a board troll. I've seen a lot of my friends being treated well by him over the years. Seen his comments on how small guys were treated in the past in the shows is enough for me to get in touch with him, get his feedback and see how we can make things better. We live, learn, improve.

I repeated before that I'm not an AVN employee, my company (founded by two more industry "veterans") is managing the web dept of AVN and is doing consulting on the rest. We put enormous amount of work for our clients and AVN is not an exception.

Michael, you follow all AVN topics in different forums with a negativity attached. From my knowledge you represent or represented a client of yours in a lawsuit filled by AVN. You were asked before on another forum about that, you failed to answer and you disappeared. Regardless, your words don't personally inspire me fairness and I have concerns on your intentions and interests. I guess that's good for your clients, but not mine ;-)

JFK 11-13-2009 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 16544581)
http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/archi.../zP1010019.jpg

Is this Baddog 2004 style?
Never really looked at the old Fubar pics untill today.
It's fun browsing around the old archives to see who's still here.

There is a lot of gold in the archives:winkwink:

JimmiDean 11-13-2009 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 16542947)

Like you, I'm pointing out the obvious. Regardless, if this is your business (and it is), you need to attend (if not exhibit at) AEE or Internext or both.

Not doing so is at your own business peril.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pornlaw 11-13-2009 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel (Post 16546708)
AVN did that in that past and I don't see an issue not to be repeated. ....

Michael, you follow all AVN topics in different forums with a negativity attached. From my knowledge you represent or represented a client of yours in a lawsuit filled by AVN. You were asked before on another forum about that, you failed to answer and you disappeared. Regardless, your words don't personally inspire me fairness and I have concerns on your intentions and interests. I guess that's good for your clients, but not mine ;-)

The topic you are referring to had nothing to do with AVN. I was commenting on the AEE show and Evil Chris even stated in this thread that AVN has nothing really to do with AEE...So if I was being negative it was about the AEE show and not AVN.

Quote:

...you probably know that AVN puts their name on the AEE show, but has little to actually do with the selling of booths and floorspace for that show. It's operated independently by an outside agency.
I do represent a client in a matter involving AVN. I never failed to answer that question and I didnt disappear. My interests are in the representation of my client.

However, please link to a negative post I have made about AVN ?

uno 11-13-2009 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 16544291)
Those were good times :) Remember the Lightspeed jet rides? :)

That was awesome. I puked so many times that day.

Evil Chris 11-13-2009 11:30 AM

To get this back on topic, I'd just like to remind you to contact me to be included in the January (show issue) of AVN.

Barefootsies 11-13-2009 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 16541187)
I was speaking of AVN not Internext. As far as booths. Last year AVN show floor was half the size as prior year. Im wondering if its cut in half again.

:Oh crap

kristin 11-13-2009 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 16543171)
When was Internext held at the Sands Expo ? I might be wrong but I dont remember it being in the Sands. I remember it being at Mandalay prior to The Palms. Are you confusing AVN/AEE with Internext ?

Serious question... I have only gone to the past 5 or so Internext shows.

Oh yeah we use to pack the Sands ... I remember the last time we had it there with the big booths.

Funny thing is, about 2-3 years later all those same booths came back but to AEE instead.

JFK 11-13-2009 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 16547928)
Oh yeah we use to pack the Sands ... I remember the last time we had it there with the big booths.

Funny thing is, about 2-3 years later all those same booths came back but to AEE instead.

I remember those days:thumbsup

Renzo 12-10-2009 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16547978)
I remember those days:thumbsup

:thumbsup

Johnny G 12-11-2009 06:23 AM

Just wanted to help this post a little.


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