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MaDalton 11-07-2009 03:18 PM

Native English speakers... I have a question, please help!
 
why is the animal called "pig", you eat "pork" and get the "swine" flu??

:helpme

Pornopat 11-07-2009 03:20 PM

This all sounds like spam!

Arnox 11-07-2009 03:22 PM

This isn't an English question, this is a "why do we call something something" question.

For the sake of convenience, is the answer.

Sly 11-07-2009 03:28 PM

Door, port, portal, entryway.

Cow, beef.

Deer, venison.

Hog, wild hog, boar.

Elli 11-07-2009 05:02 PM

A cow gives you beef and a farmer keeps several head of cattle as livestock. Kinda like that.

d-null 11-07-2009 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16526534)
why is the animal called "pig", you eat "pork" and get the "swine" flu??

:helpme

it's like that in many languages

why is it called "puerco", "porcina", "cochino" in Spanish? :2 cents:

MaDalton 11-07-2009 05:21 PM

interesting, in german it's all the same word

rowan 11-07-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16526844)
interesting, in german it's all the same word

So you order minced pig (or ground pig) at your butcher? :helpme

rowan 11-07-2009 06:24 PM

I'd like a large special fried rice, and a serve of sweet and sour pig! :D

d-null 11-07-2009 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 16526934)
So you order minced pig (or ground pig) at your butcher? :helpme

stop being such a pig dog :1orglaugh

spacedog 11-07-2009 07:17 PM

Swine is the collective of pig much like Equine is the collective for horse. It's a family.. Much like how mouse, rat and hamster are all rodent, then boar and pig are all swine.

As for pork, although pig and boar are all swine, only the pig is referred to as pork. It's called pork because the latin word for pig is porcus which was shortened to porc by the french.

AdPatron 11-07-2009 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16526534)
why is the animal called "pig", you eat "pork" and get the "swine" flu??

:helpme

Each of these words have different origins, from different languages. English is a merger of these.

Agent 488 11-07-2009 07:31 PM

you swine.

baddog 11-07-2009 09:01 PM

Why can't German's settle on one kind of meat for schnitzel?

Jim_Gunn 11-07-2009 09:11 PM

English is made up of several languages starting with a Germanic core, with additional vocabulary, syntax and vowel sounds added to it in layers over history from Latin, French, Greek and later many others.

rowan 11-07-2009 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16527192)
Why can't German's settle on one kind of meat for schnitzel?

Do you only eat cow sausages? :)

MaDalton 11-08-2009 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16527192)
Why can't German's settle on one kind of meat for schnitzel?

because "Schnitzel" is a specific kind of preparation (or form/size - can't explain better, i ain't no butcher) and can be from pork, calf, chicken or turkey

only if you read "Wiener Schnitzel" it's supposed to be calf meat - any other meat in this case would be false advertising

baddog 11-08-2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16528005)
because "Schnitzel" is a specific kind of preparation (or form/size - can't explain better, i ain't no butcher) and can be from pork, calf, chicken or turkey

only if you read "Wiener Schnitzel" it's supposed to be calf meat - any other meat in this case would be false advertising

From my understanding Austria is the only place where it must be veal. In Germany it very well may be pork.

jMEGA 11-08-2009 09:53 AM

pussy - cunt - snatch - vag - cooter

MaDalton 11-08-2009 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16528064)
From my understanding Austria is the only place where it must be veal. In Germany it very well may be pork.

sorry, veal, here we go again - lol

i have been in Vienna last week and in the "Schnitzel" restaurant where we went you could order veal or pork. and the waitress told us that less and less places actually offer the original Wiener Schnitzel made from veal. but if you want to be 100% correct one is "Wiener Schnitzel" and from pork it would be "Schnitzel nach Wiener Art"

baddog 11-08-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16528093)
sorry, veal, here we go again - lol

i have been in Vienna last week and in the "Schnitzel" restaurant where we went you could order veal or pork. and the waitress told us that less and less places actually offer the original Wiener Schnitzel made from veal. but if you want to be 100% correct one is "Wiener Schnitzel" and from pork it would be "Schnitzel nach Wiener Art"

Native German speakers... I have a question, please help! :upsidedow

fatfoo 11-08-2009 11:43 AM

I'm not a Native English speaker, but I took English classes in College. So I think I can try to explain.

They are kind of like synonyms.

Pig is just pig, for animal pig.

Pork is the edible version of pig. So for any big you wanna eat, you can call it pork.

Swine is the insulting name for pig. Like when Hitler yelled, "The Russians are swine!!! We have to exterminate them all!!!" Anyway, I'm Russian myself and that's the reason I don't like Hitler.

MaDalton 11-08-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fatfoo (Post 16528241)

Swine is the insulting name for pig. Like when Hitler yelled, "The Russians are swine!!! We have to exterminate them all!!!" Anyway, I'm Russian myself and that's the reason I don't like Hitler.

i would bet Hitler never said that with these words :glugglug

billywatson 11-08-2009 01:04 PM

You need to consult the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) and there you will find a treasure trove in the origin of words....their history, when they were first used, and how they came to be.

notime 11-08-2009 01:43 PM

Missed you in Vienna this week Stefan.
Were you not there or did we not run into eachother?

NicoEroAds 11-08-2009 02:49 PM

He was there ;-) Seems as you missed him :smokin We saw each other at the networking event

MaDalton 11-09-2009 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by notime (Post 16528456)
Missed you in Vienna this week Stefan.
Were you not there or did we not run into eachother?

of course i was there, saw you at least at the first evening :winkwink:

Johny Traffic 11-09-2009 09:17 AM

It is because the English language is made up from mainly German (from the saxon invaders) and from French (From the Norman invaders) The normans were the ruling class over the saxons, who were not farmers and ate the food and gave the words for food etc in french. The peasants who worked the farms were saxons and gave the un eaten animals German words

Over the years the French and german languages combined to give us the modern English language, what we know as English. Which is actually German and French.

Verbs are normally German words and nouns are normally French, with of course a whole host of other languages in the mix. Which comes from having huge amounts of immigrants for the last 2 thousand years.

tranza 11-09-2009 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jMEGA (Post 16528066)
pussy - cunt - snatch - vag - cooter

that explains a lot!! lol

KRosh 11-09-2009 09:43 AM

Pig was originally "young pig" and the adult was known as swine.

Pork is the flesh of a pig that is used as food and comes from the old Latin word Porcus

:2 cents:


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