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Glenn Beck 10-23-2009 06:10 PM

Hey truthers, since you love the founding fathers so much..
 
.. why don't you get an armed revolt going against the government like them?











Oh, that's right, you're a bunch of little sissies whining on the internet, my bad.

Glenn Beck 10-23-2009 06:12 PM

Stop invoking the memories of REAL MEN.. because they would spit tobacco juice in your cowardly eyes and make you shine their boots.

dyna mo 10-23-2009 06:17 PM

if only glen beck thunk the same. well, he'd be out of job but, you know.

WoW! 10-23-2009 06:23 PM

Truth is a mushy, hydra-headed word.
You should use the word honesty.

Like: Hey honest guys, since you love the founding fathers so much...

Your post would make more sense then :thumbsup

dyna mo 10-23-2009 06:24 PM

r u not aware of truthers?

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uno 12-02-2009 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16460398)
r u not aware of truthers?

dude, hit me up on icq. It's been a long ass time and I lost your number. I'd love to catch up.

Edit: Oh, and the wife says hi.

StickyGreen 12-02-2009 05:21 PM

Nothing is going to change until the majority of the public understands the problem and is then able to vote people out and vote good people in. You guys are funny how you expect a tiny group of "truthers" to storm D.C. and take over the most powerful government in the world.

Glenn Beck 12-02-2009 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 16609140)
Nothing is going to change until the majority of the public understands the problem and is then able to vote people out and vote good people in. You guys are funny how you expect a tiny group of "truthers" to storm D.C. and take over the most powerful government in the world.

you can throw "good people" at a fundamentally broken system all day long. but nothing will change until the system is completely smashed and rebuilt.

viva revolucion *thrusts fist into air*

StickyGreen 12-02-2009 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Beck (Post 16609157)
you can throw "good people" at a fundamentally broken system all day long. but nothing will change until the system is completely smashed and rebuilt.

viva revolucion *thrusts fist into air*

Like I said, a full on revolution can only happen once the majority of the people understand that a revolution is necessary in the first place. At least 80% of Americans are still fucking clueless and would probably agree with the media and government that revolters should be locked up for being so damn crazy.

onwebcam 12-02-2009 05:44 PM

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Glenn Beck 12-02-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16609207)
You want someone to free you slave? :1orglaugh

No, I want someone to force feed you your meds.

StickyGreen 12-02-2009 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Beck (Post 16609212)
No, I want someone to force feed you your meds.

lol, says the guy with a "Glenn Beck" fake nick.

Waddymelon 12-02-2009 05:51 PM

Our forefathers didnt have to deal with the Patriot Act and being labeled a terrorist and risking imprisonment for merely saying the word revolution out loud.

Glenn Beck 12-02-2009 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waddymelon (Post 16609225)
Our forefathers didnt have to deal with the Patriot Act and being labeled a terrorist and risking imprisonment for merely saying the word revolution out loud.

yeah true, they only had to face an armed british army and being killed on sight.

Glenn Beck 12-02-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 16609167)
Like I said, a full on revolution can only happen once the majority of the people understand that a revolution is necessary in the first place. At least 80% of Americans are still fucking clueless and would probably agree with the media and government that revolters should be locked up for being so damn crazy.

The american people aren't as clueless as you seem to think they are. I know it feels so good pretending you have most of the world outsmarted, but people are a lot wiser to the facts than you're willing to give them credit for.

The problem lies in the fact that you, and most everyone else is just to spineless to take the required actions to fix this country. And yes, it will take violent action to remove this tyranny. A fucked up system this embedded isn't going to go quietly.

Glenn Beck 12-02-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 16609220)
lol, says the guy with a "Glenn Beck" fake nick.

Someone needs to feed you some meds as well if you think I use this nick for anything other than a satirical purpose.

onwebcam 12-02-2009 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Beck (Post 16609357)
The problem lies in the fact that you, and most everyone else is just to spineless to take the required actions to fix this country. And yes, it will take violent action to remove this tyranny. A fucked up system this embedded isn't going to go quietly.

What are you doing besides crying on a board?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Beck (Post 16609357)
The american people aren't as clueless as you seem to think they are. I know it feels so good pretending you have most of the world outsmarted, but people are a lot wiser to the facts than you're willing to give them credit for.

I would be willing to bet that most (including you) are more clueless than you could ever imagine.

An example

The Constitution is not for, ?We the People:?

1) Article ONE of the Constitution allows the Congress to borrow against the full faith and credit of the American people without end. It keeps us eternally in debt and makes all loans the government received from the King or any other entity, valid and enforceable against ?We the People!? How is that good for us?

2) Article ONE, Section EIGHT, Clause (15) of the Constitution reads that it is the Militias job to execute the laws of the Union. The Militia is a military unit something like the Police or National Guard and is composed of members of our local community. The new State Constitutions however make Militias illegal except in time of war and authorizes the Police to arrest the members of a Militia, should they attempt to reform their ranks! How is that good for us?

3) Article ONE; Section EIGHT of the Constitution gives the Congress complete power over the Military. What do we do when it?s the Congress who we need to have arrested for Treason and Peonage? How is that good for us?

President Obama has changed the Military Oath. Soldiers no longer swear to support or defend the Constitution but rather to support and defend the President! Now, isn?t that convenient?

4) Article SIX, Section ONE of the Constitution is the law that makes American Citizens responsible to file income tax returns and not because of Title 26 of the United States Code. Parts of our flawed history, taught to you by our government controlled school system, accurately described that the English people had been taxed into a state of poverty by King George and was one of the reasons the Colonists fled Europe for the New World. Why then would that be made a part of the Constitution and how is this good for us?

The IRS is not a U. S. Government Agency, they are Agents of a Foreign Power, operating under a private contract and your obligation to pay and file federal taxes is a scam! Only federal employees and persons born in Washington, DC and the federal territories were ever obligated to pay and file, prior to The Stamp Act but we were never informed of that fact!

Our government has brainwashed us into believing that the National Debt is all our responsibility and that it is your patriotic responsibility to pay your fair share! Here?s the Truth about that subject!

The National Debt is a Federal Debt and always has been! The name change was the clever use of ?propaganda? intended to invoke our civil patriotic pride! The foreign Agents in charge of our government have been borrowing funds to line their pockets with; to buy influence and to make business deals and seal Treaties with communist Third World Countries and Dictators, which will never benefit ?We the People.? They have lied to us, enslaved us, imprisoned us and sold our gold to the Vatican in 1933 and invested the proceeds for their own benefit! The money they have been borrowing since 1933 is not real money but, ?negotiable debt instruments,? which is the same thing as monopoly money!

The foreign agents who purport to be our public officials are responsible for eliminating the strength of the American Labor Unions, the elimination of our jobs, the erosion of our inalienable rights and with the aid of the International Private Banking Empires, have instigated every war or conflict we have ever become involved with in history and (they convinced us that it was the other guys fault)! The Banks finance both sides of a war and clean up regardless of the winner! They have converted us into corporate fictions and sold us as securities to foreign corporate investors and have denied us our heritage! Everything they have been doing is designed to undermine our freedom, liberty and representative form of government!

5) The SIXTEENTH AMENDMENT to the Constitution, regardless of the dispute of how it was adopted, permits the Federal Government to assess and collect a direct tax against, ?We the People.? Most Americans do not know that the Federal Government is and always has been financially self sufficient, the result of tariff?s imposed upon imports, exports and commerce. Not one penny of the Direct Federal Income Tax, paid through the IRS, is ever for or deposited into the United States Treasury. Those Taxes are deposited into the Federal Reserve Bank for the Masters use. So how is this direct tax good for us?

You may be wondering about now, how the United States government can collect taxes
from, ?We the People,? when we are Slaves, who own nothing and are not a party to the Constitution? Despite its legality, it is done under a process known as ?debt collection? through private contractors [the IRS] and through a private contract, the United States Constitution. The IRS belongs to the International Monetary Fund, who also owns the Federal Reserve Bank. The IMF holds the controlling interest in all the banks in America! The IMF is the Rockefeller and Rothschild Empires along with the eleven wealthiest families in the World. When you see or hear of a Bank closing - it is a diversion and is intended to injure and panic the public! The condition of the economy in the World today is being manipulated by these people! Their schedule for the adoption of the New World Order is close at hand and these public Agents need to scare us into believing that this new form of government is our salvation! Factually, it will only be good for them and it will be our ruin!

6) Article 12 of the Articles of Confederation promises the full faith and credit of the American people to repay all loans made by the United States government. The money borrowed by the United States to finance the Revolutionary War came from France. Who owned France? (King George!) Who was the opposition in the Revolutionary War? (England.) Our Founding Fathers promised our labor, equity, full faith and credit, to repay those debts that will, in theory, never come to an end! So how is that good for us?

7) The Bill of Rights was not for your protection. They?re laws that represent one mans ability, with the assistance of the State, to control another mans actions and since they?re included under the U. S. Constitution, they?re not for you! So how is that good for us?

8) The Thirteenth Amendment barred lawyers from ever holding a seat in public office. The Amendment was ratified however, during the second secret writing of the Constitution, this Amendment was dropped and replaced by the 14th Amendment and the 14th Amendment was replaced by the 15th Amendment and so on. The replacement wasn?t done by a Constitutional Convention, it was simply omitted! The original Constitution is the Law of the Land and was designed to regulate our government! The 13th Amendment still is positive law but now about 98% of our public officials are lawyers so if we filed motions to remove them from office, who would sign them? Wasn?t that convenient for them?

9) On August 4, 1790, Article ONE of the U. S. Statutes at Large, pages 138 - 178, abolished the States of the Republic and created Federal Districts! In the same year the former States of the Republic reorganized as Corporations and their legislatures wrote new State Constitutions, absent defined boundaries, which they presented to the people of each State for a vote! Why this time? Because the new State Constitutions fraudulently made the people ?Citizens? of the new Corporate States.


plenty more where that came from.

StickyGreen 12-02-2009 06:56 PM

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Glenn Beck 12-02-2009 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16609410)
What are you doing besides crying on a board?

Making fun of you weirdos like you who actually are crying on the internet

and yes please quote more of this evidently worthless 300 year old document

Glenn Beck 12-02-2009 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 16609418)

no amount of posting images on the internet will free you from it ;)

StickyGreen 12-02-2009 07:00 PM

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

Oh whoops, I forgot that quote is irrelevant these days because people actually think the Federal Reserve is part of the government. Carry on!

Glenn Beck 12-02-2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 16609432)
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

Oh whoops, I forgot that quote is irrelevant these days because people actually think the Federal Reserve is part of the government. Carry on!

what are you going to do about it? nothing, except this

StickyGreen 12-02-2009 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Beck (Post 16609426)
no amount of posting images on the internet will free you from it ;)

Did I say it would? Nope. You're saying that.

And you really think our constitution is a "worthless 300 year old document?" You my friend, are one piece of shit American. (if you are American, that is)

uno 12-02-2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16609410)
President Obama has changed the Military Oath. Soldiers no longer swear to support or defend the Constitution but rather to support and defend the President! Now, isn?t that convenient?

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/bar...yalty_oath.htm Just sayin. Can't believe everything you read on conspiracy sites or from chain letters no matter how bad you want it to be true to fit in with your skewed perception of reality.

Glenn Beck 12-02-2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 16609436)
Did I say it would? Nope. You're saying that.

And you really think our constitution is a "worthless 300 year old document?" You my friend, are one piece of shit American. (if you are American, that is)

you forgot the word evidently

onwebcam 12-02-2009 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Beck (Post 16609423)
Making fun of you weirdos like you who actually are crying on the internet

and yes please quote more of this evidently worthless 300 year old document

You can not use the Constitution to defend yourself because you are not a party to it. It is private compact and individual citizens had no rights to it (Padelford Fay & Co. v. The Mayor and Alderman of The City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520)

That can be found on page 6 and 45.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/14566693/P...ty-of-Savannah

Glenn Beck 12-02-2009 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16609461)
You can not use the Constitution to defend yourself because you are not a party to it. It is private compact and individual citizens had no rights to it (Padelford Fay & Co. v. The Mayor and Alderman of The City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520)

That can be found on page 6 and 45.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/14566693/P...ty-of-Savannah

I don't care. Maybe sticky might be interested since he loves the thing so damn much. lol

onwebcam 12-02-2009 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn Beck (Post 16609466)
I don't care. Maybe sticky might be interested since he loves the thing so damn much. lol

You don't care that you've been lied to all your life? Isn't that part of the problem?

StickyGreen 12-02-2009 07:24 PM

That's pretty typical. When push comes to shove the idiots who are purposefully going out of their way to ridicule this type of information simply say "I don't care." Then why the fuck are you talking about it and making threads about it? lol, make up your mind...

Glenn Beck 12-02-2009 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16609471)
You don't care that you've been lied to all your life? Isn't that part of the problem?

An old ass piece of paper and a flag doesn't mean much to me, boss

StickyGreen 12-02-2009 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Beck (Post 16609478)
An old ass piece of paper and a flag doesn't mean much to me, boss

It's not just an "old ass piece of paper." It is what allows you to experience something called LIBERTY. It is what allows you to speak freely and write whatever you like on a message board. It is what allows you to follow any religion you choose. It is what allows you to do a lot of things that you obviously take for granted. It is important.

Glenn Beck 12-02-2009 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 16609476)
That's pretty typical. When push comes to shove the idiots who are purposefully going out of their way to ridicule this type of information simply say "I don't care."

Please point out where I mentioned anything about the constitution other that mention that it's evidently worthless which was pretty much in agreement to the info posted.

See, things like this is why I think you cats should be on meds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 16609476)
Then why the fuck are you talking about it and making threads about it? lol, make up your mind...

I so hate repeating myself but..
Quote:

Making fun of you weirdos like you who actually are crying on the internet

onwebcam 12-02-2009 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno (Post 16609441)
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/bar...yalty_oath.htm Just sayin. Can't believe everything you read on conspiracy sites or from chain letters no matter how bad you want it to be true to fit in with your skewed perception of reality.

It was all copied and pasted with author comments. Not all of said comments are completely accurate.. Do your own research.

Glenn Beck 12-02-2009 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 16609491)
It's not just an "old ass piece of paper." It is what allows you to experience something called LIBERTY. It is what allows you to speak freely and write whatever you like on a message board. It is what allows you to follow any religion you choose. It is what allows you to do a lot of things that you obviously take for granted. It is important.

It's just a piece of paper.

StickyGreen 12-02-2009 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Beck (Post 16609498)
It's just a piece of paper.

It's more than just a piece of paper. It is a document that every court in our country must abide by. I'd say that's pretty important. But maybe you don't even know that because you never took any legal classes in college. (if you even went to college, that is)

StickyGreen 12-02-2009 07:41 PM

Alright, enough of this bullshit, I'm off to smoke weed and drink beer while I watch basketball like a good American sheep. Never said I was perfect lmao... Have a fun night Glenn Beck, I'm sure you will...

Glenn Beck 12-02-2009 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 16609511)
It's more than just a piece of paper. It is a document that every court in our country must abide by. I'd say that's pretty important. But maybe you don't even know that because you never took any legal classes in college. (if you even went to college, that is)

Hahaha, good one.

Glenn Beck 12-02-2009 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 16609515)
Alright, enough of this bullshit, I'm off to smoke weed and drink beer while I watch basketball like a good American sheep. Never said I was perfect lmao... Have a fun night Glenn Beck, I'm sure you will...

Maybe when you sober up you can explain why they don't follow it to the letter. Because if this country heeded that dusty old thing there would be no problem right?

WoW! 12-02-2009 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16460398)
r u not aware of truthers?

Of course I understand "truthers" But the truthers label should be changed to "Honesty".
It's more testimonial as to why the constitution should be FOLLOWED and not TRASHED.

Our forefathers would roll over in their graves today.

We need back to the constitution. To the LETTER.

onwebcam 12-02-2009 07:54 PM

Sticky I hate to tell ya man. The courts nor are our supposed leaders doing much of anything within the boundaries of the Constitution if you can tell. It's mostly all "statutes" in admiralty/maritime under the War Powers Act of 1933. Which they claim to be in line with the constitution. They just create the illusion they are staying within it in reality.

DaddyHalbucks 12-02-2009 07:57 PM

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POed-poster 12-02-2009 08:13 PM

Someone needs to mark this thread with a TROLL ALERT.

The Demon 12-02-2009 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Beck (Post 16460359)
Stop invoking the memories of REAL MEN.. because they would spit tobacco juice in your cowardly eyes and make you shine their boots.


No such thing as real men anymore. We're witnessing the downfall of American society.

WoW! 12-02-2009 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POed-poster (Post 16609569)
Someone needs to mark this thread with a TROLL ALERT.

Why? because some don't have spam or AFF referral code in their sig?

uno 12-02-2009 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16609495)
It was all copied and pasted with author comments. Not all of said comments are completely accurate.. Do your own research.

I know you're the King of c/p, but perhaps you should take some of your own advice rather than your rampant spreading of misinformation. I should not have to do your research for you.

onwebcam 12-02-2009 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno (Post 16609627)
I know you're the King of c/p, but perhaps you should take some of your own advice rather than your rampant spreading of misinformation. I should not have to do your research for you.

Well I guess the feeling is mutual :) I've spent loads of time doing my own research. Once again you can't just pick out one thing and claim it's all not true. The whole point is to get others to realize that there's been years of deception and everyone needs to start figuring that out and doing their own research..

Big John 12-02-2009 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 16609491)
It's not just an "old ass piece of paper." It is what allows you to experience something called LIBERTY. It is what allows you to speak freely and write whatever you like on a message board. It is what allows you to follow any religion you choose. It is what allows you to do a lot of things that you obviously take for granted. It is important.

For what it's worth the are many countries with more 'LIBERTY', free speech and freedom that don't use a very old piece of paper to justify it. The US sadly just has the illusion of freedom in many areas these days. Whilst undoubtably there are countries less liberated, the US is far from the top of the pile when it comes to freedom of anything.

uno 12-02-2009 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16609633)
Well I guess the feeling is mutual :) I've spent loads of time doing my own research. Once again you can't just pick out one thing and claim it's all not true. The whole point is to get others to realize that there's been years of deception and everyone needs to start figuring that out and doing their own research..

I never said all of it was untrue, but adding something into a post claiming you've researched it when clearly you haven't takes away from the validity and credibility of the rest of the post(s). I'm sure if I took a few minutes I could easily find evidence of other invalid claims, but again, I'm not going to do your research for you.

If the point is to get people to realize there's deception afoot, providing deceptive/untrue/false information is a pretty poor way to prove your point.


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