Movie Titan submit pass -> what do you think?
 

Hi All,

I am curious about the opinions of more gallery submitters: do you have success with this pass nowadays?
It was a very well working pass for me for a long time, but since their flagship site is turned to a tube [youngpornmovies.com] i barely made any sales with the TrafficTitan network.
I started discussion about this with a few fellow submitters @ MP and via ICQ, and so far everybody confirmed they experience the same as I do.

Because of this, I contacted Anar @ TrafficTitan, just finished a long conversation with him, sadly without any progress.

He stated now their submitters can submit flv videos to YPM. Anybody doing this? Any results? I doubt any gallery submitters of theirs is submitting flvs to tube sites, but maybe I am wrong.

Any feedback is appreciated.

Peace

As I mentioned earlier ... this pass has no value for submitters. Save your money and buy on other places ,, there are still some good offers ;)

You can submit flvs with a banner to youngpornmovies.com, porntitan.com, clearclips.com, and pornstarclub.com. FLV submitting is the wave of the future so if you are a gallery submitter you should be hopping all over this. Yes some people do submit FLVs. The primary reason why people don't make money off the pass is that they aren't doing it right.

Some general tips for submitters:

> submit to all sites (you would be surprised how many don't)
> submit the max amount of galleries per day (5 each site)
> load the description with keywords
> submit tube clips to ypm, porntitan, clearclips, pornstarclub

Try it out for a month and see if it works for YOU.

They keep your listing in their database, and they get indexed by SEs also -btw

Traffic Titan deal is one of, if not, the best.

1, It is VERY hard to submit when your submit form is down 50% of time
2, There are TONS of submitters who quit this account just because it is not sending enough traffic (just check another boards)
3, You business attitude was exposed when you quietly turned into tube and your trade partners were sending you traffic without knowledge
4, I have been submitting for 7 years and I definitely know HOW, WHAT and WHERE to submit. And TrafficTitans is definitely not the place I will buy account again

BINGO!

This was/is a daily routine.. Daily errors on the submission script, I was unable to submit my galls for the big money I paid them like every second day. They never did anything to resolve this issue.. The situation was so fucked that I started putting all galls that could not be submitted into a .txt file and then I contacted their support with a request to insert them!

$100 was unreal price 1 year ago already, now the real price should be like $30

Thanks for the replies.
Hugles: do you submit galleries with this account At The Moment? Or you are sharing experiences from months ago? Just because there's no doubt Movie Titan pass WAS good. But things have changed imo...
Titan: Sir, with greatest respect, I am a gallery submitter and not a tube submitter. I bought a gallery submit pass with Titan pass... It can be that its the future and so on, but in this case please sell a separate pass for the tube submits and one for the galleries... Btw the tips were good and useful - just one extra thought: if you see that so many of your submitters are making mistakes, why dont you bulk email them with tips how to be more successful or why dont you ask GTS to do so? A happy submitter is always better than one who is struggling...

However its very weird that tubes start to charge for the content upload :D

Anyway, I still feel ripped off, and I just want to be sure if its only me, because I live under a rock and still submit galleries to TGPs or the issue is with the way you think and handle your PAID submitters...

And again, GTS/submitpasses.com is supposed to play this match, not the active or recently expired paid submitters...

:(

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I made enough money from these sites in 6 months when I started in 2003 to pay for this pass for 10 years.

Doesn't mean you should throw it all away by buying a pass that doesn't get you jack shit in return... :winkwink:

gallery submitter revolt.

Yes, some kind of.
See sig.

yeah, this pass barely can pay itself now that youngpornmovies are gone

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Bump for some more opinions and maybe some more answers from Titan...

why don't you guys submit clips to the tubes?

Because there's a huge difference between a gallery, what I design/code and for which I do the marketing and text, and uploading a video clip with a landing page.

I've paid for being able to submit galleries, not for uploading clips.

adapt or die.

Feel free to tell this to PicHunter, The Hun, The Shemp and the hundreds of happy and big TGPs.

I see you still have absolutely no idea about what is gallery submitting and what is tube clips uploading. Facepalm...

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Heya Titan,

Can I expect any more replies/answers or you do the ignore politics until I getting bored with bumping this thread? ;)

You say 'some" submitters are uploading FLVs. May I ask what percentage? Approx is enough ;) And you know the rest is not making money anymore on your pass but you still offer for the same price and don't even let them know this is a dead end street if they don't submit FLVs to your tubes?

I think you should sell gallery submit pass and tube upload pass separately... What do you think?

Nice discussion. Bump for Matyko.

Thanks, appreciated a lot ;)

I'll be honest enough to admit its not in the league it once was, it still makes healthy profits tho and for all the time it takes to do it I consider it well worth it.

Ok so I'm sorry that the YPM server is not doing so well. I have swiftwill and smart scripts goodwill working on it. Trust me I'm not happy that people are having problems submit. I have 3 servers running that site and its still blowing up. I think STXT has some scalability problems or swiftwill made some settings errors. I am having people work on it around the clock trying to fix it so its fast enough for everyone to submit and upload without any problems. A lot of issues are getting ironed out. Hopefully when it gets fixed it will be win win for everyone. I know a lot of people are going waaaaah about tube sites but I think you should get used to it. Unless they make some major legal changes they aren't going anywhere. I don't really like it because I was doing a lot better with them not around. You should be constantly trying to expand and improve your empire. If you are not moving forward you are moving backwards. I'm sure submitters remember the good old days when partner accounts were free and you made huge money without trying. Tube submitting is the new hotness and there are scripts that allow you to mass submit to them.

The Hun & Shemp have been horribly crippled because they have not kept up. I have sites larger than thehun.com. Pichunter.com does have a tube section and thats the only site that hasn't lost that much traffic.

Feel free to bitch at smart script and swiftwill. Trust me i have been.

You completely misunderstand me if you think this is about tubes. This is not a 'blame-the-tubes!' thread at all, talking about it is 100% offtopic.

The Hun still has big traffic and he does not charge for a partner account at all [except for the top20 paid spots, but thats a different story]. Shemp has a fair price imo. PicHunter charged me a one time application fee almost two years ago and is sending me excellent traffic and sales for the fresh and unique content I submit to them - actually for free...

I see your point about the necessity of moving forward, and the whole post makes me think that you are a grown up adult with lot of experience and knowledge. This is why I don't understand that as a big baller why you fuck with the small people [aka your paid submitters] and set up transparent conditions/policy and correct price for your gallery submitters ... Submitpasses.com is selling your partner account, and all the webmasters are there for gallery submit passes. I repeat, no problem with the tube upload thing, but you should sell them completely separate as 'movie titan tube upload package' and those who upload would buy this, and gallery submitters would be able to buy the package made for them. Those who do both, obviously would buy both.

Please - with sugar on the top - Titan crew: reconsider the way you sell your products to your partners. It simply makes you look bad that the guys who make multiple $ks [or $10ks] a day are messing with the small people... :2 cents:

I remember long time ago.. lets say 6years ago, I am offering Lisa advise on her sites and I told her she should go paid partner accounts and she promised me that if she did that she would never charge me.. pfff

bought an account once and hated myself for it.

What??! Oh ok.. so it was you who ruined the gallery submission business! :mad:



j/k :)

im not going to turn Shemp into a tube site and then screw gallery submitters over by accepting money from them and not giving them value in return...if thats your way of "keeping up", good luck to you...

In fact Shemp is among few TGPs where it is still profitable to buy account. From my stats ... I am getting about the same traffic from Shemp as I used to. Even better .. sales are up! Hun is free so I can not compare it to paid TGPs. His traffic went down but it is still possible to make decent sales there with good niched sponsor. Thanks Shemp for being fair to your submitters ;)

Quoted For Truth :thumbsup

And Thank You Shemp as well for posting your opinion :upsidedow

When I used to submit, I never had the attitude that I was entitled to anything.

it's a free market. if you don't like the product, don't but it. simple.

I am very sorry if I make a bad impression with my attitude, I am trying to be polite, but also I am quite disappointed and I am giving a voice to it.

Maybe you haven't paid for the passes back then... But in real life, if you pay $100 for an advertising service of which the owner changes policy on your expense... I bet you act in a similar way.

bump for a real serious gallery submitter.
please show some respect.

you da man Shemp :thumbsup

Thanks for the bumps guys! ;)

A real discussion on GFY for once... GASP.

If you're not a current submitter, how can you say it's one of the best deals?

I agree, times are changing, some people can adapt as they wish, but prices for advertising should be a fair price as well.

Separating gallery submits and tube submits is a good idea in my opinion. I'd rather pay half of a submit price if I can only utilize half of the traffic. Look at Library of Thumbs... 2 different submits... movies and pics. Keeps things simple for submitters and profitable for the site owner.

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Bump for some more exposure

Bump???? :)

Thanks for the bump Michel, nice to see you here! ;) :thumbsup

I haven't tried it, but I bet it boils down to finding the niche that sells through this pass.

The only thing that sells well on youngpornmovies is 18 y.o. teens. But how are you gonna sell something when you don't get any exposure? I got like 10k visits from YPM the month after they changed their layout, and this I am paying $100 for? I do get some occasional signups from the other sites in the network but it's not defending the current prize of this pass.

You're welcome Matyko :)

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