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ACPay Mac 12-10-2002 03:38 PM

ACH Suggestions wanted
 
Hi, all. I'm looking for advice, so I hope you won't consider this a spam.

Here's the deal. AC Pay is just about ready to start accepting online checks. Processing the checks is no problem, but we have to decide how we're going to deal with declines (which are pretty steep with checks).

Option 1: Let 'em all in if everything looks valid--immediately give the user a Member ID and access to the site they joined. Upside: This keeps people from bailing, reducing abandonment. Downside: This lets in a bunch of people who will later (in one or more days) be declined, and they could download all the content in your paysite for free, effectively, before we boot them.

Option 2: Tell the user up-front that they will get access once their transaction has been approved. This is what we do for AC Gold. Upside: ZERO declines. Downside: You may lose some members who want it now (though if you have an alternative payment mechanism like PayPal, they may just move to that).

Option 3: This would be where you can get creative and suggest something else if you're feeling really crafty.

Allright--I'm off to the "Metal MP3s" thread, because the Slayer CD in my car is a little played out and I need to burn something new.

Thanks a lot!

Cormac

m0rph3us 12-10-2002 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ACPay Mac
Hi, all. I'm looking for advice, so I hope you won't consider this a spam.

Here's the deal. AC Pay is just about ready to start accepting online checks. Processing the checks is no problem, but we have to decide how we're going to deal with declines (which are pretty steep with checks).

Option 1: Let 'em all in if everything looks valid--immediately give the user a Member ID and access to the site they joined. Upside: This keeps people from bailing, reducing abandonment. Downside: This lets in a bunch of people who will later (in one or more days) be declined, and they could download all the content in your paysite for free, effectively, before we boot them.

Option 2: Tell the user up-front that they will get access once their transaction has been approved. This is what we do for AC Gold. Upside: ZERO declines. Downside: You may lose some members who want it now (though if you have an alternative payment mechanism like PayPal, they may just move to that).

Option 3: This would be where you can get creative and suggest something else if you're feeling really crafty.

Allright--I'm off to the "Metal MP3s" thread, because the Slayer CD in my car is a little played out and I need to burn something new.

Thanks a lot!

Cormac

what would the waiting time be for option #2 ?
I kinda like #2 :)

The Dawg 12-10-2002 05:20 PM

Yea #2 sounds good - those return checks are a bitch!

Shoplifter 12-10-2002 05:28 PM

ACPay guy...Can ACPay split affiliate pay ratios. Say give affiliates 100% of trials and 50% of rebills?

Pornwolf 12-10-2002 05:57 PM

Doesn't ACPay offer cascading billing? If so which processors does it use?

drops 12-10-2002 06:00 PM

Put Burt and Cory back in site review:1orglaugh

JFK 12-10-2002 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drops
Put Burt and Cory back in site review:1orglaugh

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m0rph3us 12-10-2002 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
Doesn't ACPay offer cascading billing? If so which processors does it use?
acpay IS a processor no? don't they use adultcheck's merchant ?

SunTzu 12-10-2002 08:03 PM

Cormac, nice to see a processor ask for suggestions :)

I've been hoping one of the bigger processors would do a better job at check processing. Something has got to be better than the "lets cash it and see if it bounces" method of check verification.

Why not use a combination of #1 and 2.. Try doing real-time verification of checks using Experian and StarCheck and offer instant access for those. Then for any checks that can't be verified, hold them until they clear.

:2 cents:

SunTzu 12-11-2002 02:31 PM

Cormac, any update as to how AC Pay is going to do ACH joins?

BJ 12-11-2002 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SunTzu
Cormac, nice to see a processor ask for suggestions :)

I've been hoping one of the bigger processors would do a better job at check processing. Something has got to be better than the "lets cash it and see if it bounces" method of check verification.

Why not use a combination of #1 and 2.. Try doing real-time verification of checks using Experian and StarCheck and offer instant access for those. Then for any checks that can't be verified, hold them until they clear.

:2 cents:

netbilling does experian and starcheck but as far as I can tell it doesnt work. I have pending transactions that are 3 weeks old.:feels-hot


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