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TheDoc 09-23-2009 05:45 PM

We are ALL Hypocrites and Support Piracy...
 
... I'm talking about the Processing Companies, Many Hosting Companies, Gateways, Content Producers, Trade Shows & many Sponsors, Traffic/Content Brokers, Many Designers, Affiliate Backends, Traffic Traders/Xsale Sending, VOD/PPV?.. just the core of our entire Industry.


If you're going to bash.... you might as well start AT THE TOP of the bashing chain and look at half the hosts (even big U.S. ones), all the processors, most big content producers and prob 80% of the brokers.

Just saying... we support it by going to any trade show, buying most traffic.. it sucks.


Man we are such hypocrites.

SilentKnight 09-23-2009 05:54 PM

Not *ALL* - but a very large percentage.

alias 09-23-2009 05:56 PM

Torrents are the best way to get a site rip.

MVT 09-23-2009 05:57 PM

not all..

oops sorry im using office xp that i borrowed.. everything else legit :)

Loch 09-23-2009 05:58 PM

Sure we are :321GFY

Cyber Fucker 09-23-2009 05:59 PM

sad but true

Agent 488 09-23-2009 06:04 PM

not true, people who proclaim "i am out of the industry now" every post but opine on every aspect of it like they are hugh hefner's accountant may not be hypocritical because they have nothing to do with the adult industry at all ...

alias 09-23-2009 06:06 PM

What about the torrents out there that are rips of ripped sites, 2-tier!

plsureking 09-23-2009 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 16354692)
Torrents are the best way to get a site rip.

ya i'll admit i used to give $200 to iTunes every month that i dont anymore. although i still watch all the same shows lol

you cant fear piracy. u must embrace it. cuz its the way of the world now.

Dirty Dane 09-23-2009 06:13 PM

I do not.

TheDoc 09-23-2009 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 16354677)
Not *ALL* - but a very large percentage.

True... not 'all people' but yeah, most of us though and many are guilty of supporting it without even realizing it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Loch (Post 16354701)
Sure we are :321GFY

Never any music, movies, software, you didn't learn your skills.. maybe be testing first? Are you sure everyone you have encoded for, wasn't dirty? You sure everything you have ever DVD ripped, was the proper owners?


Just saying..


Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 16354763)
I do not.

That's possible.. but probably not.

Lots of stuff we have done without thinking about it, given software to our parents.. music, ring tones shared.. everyone is guilty of something.

xxxdesign-net 09-23-2009 07:06 PM

Do content producers sell to Illegal tube sites? That wouldnt make alot of sense....



But sure, perhaps there should be some sort of label on sites saying "we dont support illegal/unethical tubes" .... Hosting, affiliate programs, processors.....

dav3 09-23-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MVT (Post 16354698)
not all..

oops sorry im using office xp that i borrowed.. everything else legit :)

http://download.openoffice.org/index.html :thumbsup

TheDoc 09-23-2009 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 16354874)
Do content producers sell to Illegal tube sites? That wouldnt make alot of sense....



But sure, perhaps there should be some sort of label on sites saying "we dont support illegal/unethical tubes" .... Hosting, affiliate programs, processors.....


Yes, several content producers and content brokers, sell content to tubes as well as create sell/buy for people like brazz's and other download sites which gets moved to tubes that those same people own. Programs give them content to pirate other programs pay them to keep content down. ~ yep it's that crazy.

It's not just content, it's hosts, scripts, consulting, designs, traffic, from brokers to directly.. the list goes on on the type of people in our industry supporting pirate companies, right this minute.

If a label system could work, like one of those verify sites do.. that would be handy.

gideongallery 09-23-2009 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 16354744)
ya i'll admit i used to give $200 to iTunes every month that i dont anymore. although i still watch all the same shows lol

you cant fear piracy. u must embrace it. cuz its the way of the world now.

assuming you paid your cable bill, that not piracy.

Dirty Dane 09-23-2009 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16354797)
Lots of stuff we have done without thinking about it, given software to our parents.. music, ring tones shared.. everyone is guilty of something.

Yes... my avatar is not my work...admitted. I guess that makes me same guilty as those profiting millions off stealing others porn productions - and charge the victims afterwards...

GAMEFINEST 09-23-2009 07:35 PM

you can download all you want ...but i prefer paying for things that ppl work hard to produce..

TheDoc 09-23-2009 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 16354930)
Yes... my avatar is not my work...admitted. I guess that makes me same guilty as those profiting millions off stealing others porn productions - and charge the victims afterwards...

Piracy is a piracy whether done for duty, profit or fun... you should have paid someone to use it. End of story.

Dirty Dane 09-23-2009 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16354937)
Piracy is a piracy whether done for duty, profit or fun... you should have paid someone to use it. End of story.

Yes, you are right. Tell me who owns the avatar, and I will pay. Hopefully the others will do the same then, if I make a good example?

After Shock Media 09-23-2009 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16354647)
... I'm talking about the Processing Companies, Many Hosting Companies, Gateways, Content Producers, Trade Shows & many Sponsors, Traffic/Content Brokers, Many Designers, Affiliate Backends, Traffic Traders/Xsale Sending, VOD/PPV?.. just the core of our entire Industry.


If you're going to bash.... you might as well start AT THE TOP of the bashing chain and look at half the hosts (even big U.S. ones), all the processors, most big content producers and prob 80% of the brokers.

Just saying... we support it by going to any trade show, buying most traffic.. it sucks.


Man we are such hypocrites.

No, that is just a very weak fucking statement attempting to make us supporters. Also very often I will not give work to a whole slew of companies and people who do work directly for such thieves.
Difference is who works for a thief and who a thief just may use. Example being a processor would have no reason not to take legal business until a law changes, they also do not work for the thieves. Now a designer who makes them banners, site changes or whatever works for the thief and should be avoided.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16354909)
Yes, several content producers and content brokers, sell content to tubes as well as create sell/buy for people like brazz's and other download sites which gets moved to tubes that those same people own. Programs give them content to pirate other programs pay them to keep content down. ~ yep it's that crazy.

It's not just content, it's hosts, scripts, consulting, designs, traffic, from brokers to directly.. the list goes on on the type of people in our industry supporting pirate companies, right this minute.

If a label system could work, like one of those verify sites do.. that would be handy.

If the tube sites bought their content then there would be NO FUCKING PROBLEM and I would be tipping my hat to their accomplishments. By them buying their content they would not be profiting off of others material. Content shooters would still have a market of buyers, and exclusive site owners would not be having to watch their backs when it comes to these sites. The only people who may bitch would be the affiliate who lost a portion of their traffic to such sites. Yet I can promise you that you would not see as much bitching if it was the case that they bought all of their content to give away.

Agent 488 09-23-2009 08:24 PM

i started an avatar tube i don't give a fuck ...

TheDoc 09-23-2009 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 16355023)
No, that is just a very weak fucking statement attempting to make us supporters. Also very often I will not give work to a whole slew of companies and people who do work directly for such thieves.
Difference is who works for a thief and who a thief just may use. Example being a processor would have no reason not to take legal business until a law changes, they also do not work for the thieves. Now a designer who makes them banners, site changes or whatever works for the thief and should be avoided.

Supporters for what? You're still posting on GFY either way.

I have turned away more than my share of companies for being shit bags. But in general, I don't know all of them so I make it simple, I will not do dirty work, for anyone.

Processors allow sites with content, that those websites do not own. Profiting from other peoples illegal activities, either directly or through the sponsors profits. Any business profiting from illegal activities would not be a legal business to take on.



Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 16355023)
If the tube sites bought their content then there would be NO FUCKING PROBLEM and I would be tipping my hat to their accomplishments. By them buying their content they would not be profiting off of others material. Content shooters would still have a market of buyers, and exclusive site owners would not be having to watch their backs when it comes to these sites. The only people who may bitch would be the affiliate who lost a portion of their traffic to such sites. Yet I can promise you that you would not see as much bitching if it was the case that they bought all of their content to give away.

Not all of them buy content, I'm sure most can't afford it. But the biggest one has been for awhile.

Then with Brazzers, look at the dvd sites, a big part of the content is purchased and cycled into the tubes. That's all contract stuff...

I think that is why less and less bitching with people link directly to content in a post has been happening.


This is a far cry from being clean and honest, don't get me wrong. I'm just telling you what I see. If GFY is guilty then the content provider & people shooting for them, are taking money profited from piracy too.

It just isn't In Your Face...

After Shock Media 09-23-2009 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16355155)
Supporters for what? You're still posting on GFY either way.

I have turned away more than my share of companies for being shit bags. But in general, I don't know all of them so I make it simple, I will not do dirty work, for anyone.

Processors allow sites with content, that those websites do not own. Profiting from other peoples illegal activities, either directly or through the sponsors profits. Any business profiting from illegal activities would not be a legal business to take on.

Still highly contemplating future posting here fyi, this week churned my stomach. Maybe some slight hope we will see the same result we did when Guba skinned it. I know when they did is when I pulled my advertising here. Now all I really have left is my posting here.

Processors really have no clear way to know who owns what and they will shut down processing if enough complaints come in.

I have done my best to avoid those that fuck the customers and I will be damned if I will put up with those that are fucking with me.


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