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$5 submissions 09-22-2009 02:45 PM

Do you agree that Twitter is worth ONE BILLION dollars?
 
Apparently, some venture capitalists think so: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/09/16...tter-investor/

Now, who said Twitter is Worthless? :winkwink:

PastorSinAlot 09-22-2009 02:50 PM

how does twitter makes it money

GrouchyAdmin 09-22-2009 02:52 PM

If Twitter was work a billion dollars, my 10+ year old IRC chatlogs are worth a Googleplex.

PornMD 09-22-2009 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PastorSinAlot (Post 16349685)
how does twitter makes it money

Getting investment money. Twitter.com hasn't made a penny AFAIK.

I think they owe a lot to Facebook for showing that social media can make money and sustain itself. This still may be one huge growing bubble that will eventually burst...I guess time will tell.

alias 09-22-2009 02:56 PM

I do not agree.

ProG 09-22-2009 02:56 PM

Theoretical dollars

Darkland 09-22-2009 02:57 PM

Twitter isn't worth the toilet paper I wipe my ass with. It is just another example of the retardation and desensitization of society. The only reason it became profitable is the gullibility of the masses and the ingenious marketers taking advantage of a world slipping into idiocracy.

:2 cents:

who 09-22-2009 02:58 PM

I think it's worth the money it can earn. No way could it earn a billion dollars profit, even in 20 years of operation.

DaddyHalbucks 09-22-2009 02:59 PM

If you can sell an asset to a bigger sucker, all you need is that bigger sucker.

GrouchyAdmin 09-22-2009 02:59 PM

@$5: Well you see it really involves the whole social medium structure as a whole, but I'm outta chars l8r sk8r boi

Semi-Retired-Dave 09-22-2009 03:02 PM

They should take Twitter and try to sell it to the Sharks on Shark Tank.
They will tell them how much it's really worth. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

hjnet 09-22-2009 03:03 PM

Is "1 Billion Dollars" the new in word for VCs, everything seem to be worth 1 BILLION Dollars lately

SpaProd 09-22-2009 03:05 PM

They can't even figure out how to make money from it.

glamourmodels 09-22-2009 03:05 PM

Right now it does not make a dime and while in theory they could find a way to monetize it, as said earlier it would take a long, long time to recoup a Billion dollars. Even if that were possible the way things move so fast on the web, in a couple years the "next greatest thing" will have come along so it's problematic for them.

GrouchyAdmin 09-22-2009 03:12 PM

When it goes under maybe we can throw our tax dollars at that, too.

dav3 09-22-2009 03:15 PM

It's worth 1 Billion Schrute Bucks!!

http://i33.tinypic.com/i70wg7.jpg

Twig 09-22-2009 03:20 PM

Maybe in Rape Dollars

http://danarchy.youfailit.net/Spiderman/spidey14.jpg

ztik 09-22-2009 03:24 PM

Its only worth what it can generate in ad revenue

rowan 09-22-2009 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkland (Post 16349749)
Twitter isn't worth the toilet paper I wipe my ass with. It is just another example of the retardation and desensitization of society. The only reason it became profitable is the gullibility of the masses and the ingenious marketers taking advantage of a world slipping into idiocracy.

:2 cents:

You're talking like a consumer, not an entrepreneur!!!

HomerSimpson 09-22-2009 04:41 PM

1B... yeah right!

crockett 09-22-2009 04:45 PM

Fuck no it's not worth a billion dollars.. Haven't these guys figured out that these social network sites are disposable to the users? Soon as the fad gets old the users will move off with their friends to the next big thing.

$5 submissions 09-22-2009 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who (Post 16349756)
I think it's worth the money it can earn. No way could it earn a billion dollars profit, even in 20 years of operation.

All this crazy valuation does give one flashbacks of Web 1.0's valuation schemes :2 cents:

art914 09-22-2009 04:55 PM

$100 mil

SomeCreep 09-22-2009 05:23 PM

Without a look at their internal traffic stats, expenses, and revenue, it's very difficult to appraise the value of that company.

EscortBiz 09-22-2009 05:30 PM

in a year from now most people who twittered will be ashamed and lie they never used it

its over and only down from here, fools will lose serious money getting involved with that shit

GrouchyAdmin 09-22-2009 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 16350172)
All this crazy valuation does give one flashbacks of Web 1.0's valuation schemes :2 cents:

Even if the services they offered were worthless, they offered something.

WebVan: Awesome food delivery.
Beenz: Stupid online currency.
Pixelon: Crappy skin for Windows Media Player that pretended to be another technology.


Twitter: Multiplayer notepad*


* Shareware version limited to 140 characters.

born2blog 09-22-2009 05:41 PM

the site doesn't even have any advertising, no way I can see it being worth even half that amount

Titan 09-22-2009 05:44 PM

Yes. It gets more traffic than Amazon or Bing. With that much traffic and very little overhead you could probably print money. Just throw up some google ads.

ronin 09-22-2009 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16350313)
in a year from now most people who twittered will be ashamed and lie they never used it

i agree...i ask a lot of people if they use it, about 80% no

EscortBiz 09-22-2009 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titan (Post 16350352)
Yes. It gets more traffic than Amazon or Bing. With that much traffic and very little overhead you could probably print money. Just throw up some google ads.

yup that simple

mynameisjim 09-22-2009 06:20 PM

Facebook at least has some value to it. It does make a trickle of money, although a paltry sum for being one of the most popular websites in the world. Facebook will be dethroned by some other site one day, but at least it has some value today.

Twitter will fall like a rock when the fad is over. It has no value now and I don't see how it can. The one smart thing they did was not even bother with ads because they knew if they did, the revenue would be so small it would actually make the value of the site lower. So they never even bothered with trying to run ads so idiots make wild guesses as to the value.

WebairMetz 09-22-2009 06:31 PM

Hell no not worth 100million imo

EthnicLover 09-22-2009 09:08 PM

Twitter is cool but not worth $1B.

ShellyCrash 09-22-2009 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16350313)
in a year from now most people who twittered will be ashamed and lie they never used it

You hit the nail on the head. :thumbsup

Twitter, Facebook, YouTube- none of these are net positive at the end of the day. They aren't making money, they're struggling to cover the cost of their operating expenses.

Serge Litehead 09-22-2009 09:23 PM

500,000.00 tops

Fob 09-22-2009 10:09 PM

twitter is like spam central. Its almost as bad as reading youtube comments.

missyouth 09-22-2009 10:31 PM

na my site is worth more then that = )

Semi-Retired-Dave 09-22-2009 11:00 PM

What's Twitter :(





:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

SpeedWacker 09-22-2009 11:11 PM

Maybe if those tweets are actually ads disguised as tweets.

Major (Tom) 09-22-2009 11:24 PM

Hell no. Twitter is a fad. One thing I noticed latley is celebs with tons of followers and only following back under 100; and not replying to anyone. This is going to be twitters undoing.
So many times I see people starting trending topics about this, or starting sites to unfollow people. This is, in my opinion, the achilles heel of twitter. It should, therefore, logically, collapse under it's own weight.
But I'm just a porn slinger and not a social media expert. (whatever that means).
Cheers-
Duke

ruth 09-23-2009 03:22 AM

Nope. Definitely not worth that!

Davy 09-23-2009 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PastorSinAlot (Post 16349685)
how does twitter makes it money

It's the web 2.0. Sites do no longer need to make revenues.
The main strategy is growth. :1orglaugh

Fletch XXX 09-23-2009 05:18 AM

nice achevement with a site of its nature

TheLegacy 09-23-2009 05:31 AM

First MySpace then Facebook and now Twitter. People eventually are going to get upset and tired of watching their stars/friends say something "its all about me" attitude. Do I give a shit if Ellen talks to Oprah?

Facebook although has more people on it than live in America has some issues of their own with having all your personal info on it and honestly I got rid of my Facebook account not just for that reason but was tired of it.

Twitter got the huge marketing boost when last year in the house a congressman was "twittering", and soon it became news as a social network. One Billion? I would say in advertising dollars alone since every page has some small spot on it for ad space

Libertine 09-23-2009 09:10 AM

And once again, the people in this industry show how clueless they are.

Let's assume for a moment that Twitter will never generate any profit. Even then, it would still be worth a shitload of money.

Why? The answer is quite simple. Let's just take a look at Google.

Google has tens of billions of dollars in revenue, virtually all of it from advertising. That revenue largely depends on Google's ability to serve relevant ads. Moreover, a major chunk of Google's revenue is derived from their #1 position in the search market.

As content on the internet expands, it becomes ever more important for search engines to deliver timely results. People are starting to expect that if they search for something related to a recent news story, they'll get recent, relevant results.

But that's a problem for current search algorithms. The most relevant page for something that is happening right now might be a story on a new, obscure blog.

Links from other blogs and news stories are a way to get around this, but only partly. While constantly crawling a number of popular blogs is likely to yield relevant results, they only show what bloggers think is interesting.

And that's where Twitter comes in. It shows which topics are popular, if they are increasing or decreasing in popularity, and which pages are getting linked to most when people discuss that particular topic. That data is *hugely* valuable.

On top of that, comprehensive data analysis on Twitter allows a company to identify the patterns which signify that a topic has a large chance of becoming popular before it actually reaches that point. Google already can do this partly by looking at real-time search trends, but seeing how often things get re-sent and such by users would increase that ability even further.

So, a company like Google could benefit greatly from owning Twitter even if it didn't make them any money directly.

However, a new or existing Google competitor could benefit from it even more - because it could give them an edge over the market leader. Which, in turn, means that its value to Google increases, too.

If Twitter manages to prove its longevity, it will almost certainly become the centerpiece of a bidding war involving Google, MS and possibly others at some point - even if it never makes a profit.

StuartD 09-23-2009 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16350803)
You hit the nail on the head. :thumbsup

Twitter, Facebook, YouTube- none of these are net positive at the end of the day. They aren't making money, they're struggling to cover the cost of their operating expenses.

Apparently Facebook is as of this quarter.
But still.

Twitter is full of useless "I'm on the toilet" updates.

Facebook and MySpace at least have a lot of demographic and statistical information on a huge portion of the population via profiles, notes, apps, quizzes, etc. and that information has value.

VirtualAdultAgent 09-23-2009 09:43 AM

For data mining and statistics on web users and trends it could be worth a lot to marketing firms. However a Billion is way more then its usefulness.

SpeedWacker 09-24-2009 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 16352294)
And once again, the people in this industry show how clueless they are.

Let's assume for a moment that Twitter will never generate any profit. Even then, it would still be worth a shitload of money.

Why? The answer is quite simple. Let's just take a look at Google.

Google has tens of billions of dollars in revenue, virtually all of it from advertising. That revenue largely depends on Google's ability to serve relevant ads. Moreover, a major chunk of Google's revenue is derived from their #1 position in the search market.

As content on the internet expands, it becomes ever more important for search engines to deliver timely results. People are starting to expect that if they search for something related to a recent news story, they'll get recent, relevant results.

But that's a problem for current search algorithms. The most relevant page for something that is happening right now might be a story on a new, obscure blog.

Links from other blogs and news stories are a way to get around this, but only partly. While constantly crawling a number of popular blogs is likely to yield relevant results, they only show what bloggers think is interesting.

And that's where Twitter comes in. It shows which topics are popular, if they are increasing or decreasing in popularity, and which pages are getting linked to most when people discuss that particular topic. That data is *hugely* valuable.

On top of that, comprehensive data analysis on Twitter allows a company to identify the patterns which signify that a topic has a large chance of becoming popular before it actually reaches that point. Google already can do this partly by looking at real-time search trends, but seeing how often things get re-sent and such by users would increase that ability even further.

So, a company like Google could benefit greatly from owning Twitter even if it didn't make them any money directly.

However, a new or existing Google competitor could benefit from it even more - because it could give them an edge over the market leader. Which, in turn, means that its value to Google increases, too.

If Twitter manages to prove its longevity, it will almost certainly become the centerpiece of a bidding war involving Google, MS and possibly others at some point - even if it never makes a profit.

My brain hurts...


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