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Antxx 09-05-2009 03:54 PM

Japan censorship
 
I personnaly feel the Japan censorship is detrimental to the female actors.
First of all, asian porn became more deviant/fetish in order to bypass the censure.
In retrospect, it wasn't a very good services to the actors and propagate
too much fetish. And it's the female actors that take most of the problem generated by the censorship.
Now Japan/Asian porn is mostly bukkake and bondage.

The female porn actors should really push the issue, so that their performance can be seen.
This way, they would be able to do more general porn niches. The censure is detrimental to them,
their performance and in the long run, it artificially restricted porn to the fetish style (Who doesn't always need
censorship on genital parts).

Japan got it wrong.

qxm 09-05-2009 03:59 PM

never really understood why they censor content that is supposed to be seen by adults only .... must be some sort of weird ass law in their country where an 18yo guy is not as adult as a 21yo and they have to censor the action so that the 18yo won't get corrupted for at least another 3 years .... LOL

mikesinner 09-05-2009 04:03 PM

I don't think it really matters. AMP still converts better than anything I have ever seen.

Hentaikid 09-05-2009 05:18 PM

dunno, I think it was actually taken off but then some dude was arrested so everyone is playing safe with the censorship.

I doubt censorship is the only reason for the fetishism

Antxx 09-05-2009 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hentaikid (Post 16282742)
dunno, I think it was actually taken off but then some dude was arrested so everyone is playing safe with the censorship.

I doubt censorship is the only reason for the fetishism

Surely not the only reason. It has to do with the culture too...
like why asian women cry or fake pain when they have sex.
But I think it spread wider because of the censorship, to a degree
where it's not representative of their society.
And really you can't fault the producers for doing something else
to bypass the censure...

Freedom to the japan's actress!

Antxx 09-05-2009 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 16282594)
I don't think it really matters. AMP still converts better than anything I have ever seen.

Maybe...I promote it too. But...in the last Dreamwomen DVD's the censorship "medalion" got so big, it was purely unwatchable.

LiveDose 09-05-2009 06:13 PM

I have never understood that aspect of Japanese censoring either. It's very ironic given the culture.

Jarmusch 09-05-2009 06:25 PM

I like how they pixelate the pussy, but not the anus.

And those hand drawn paper pussies they place over the real pussies are just hilarious

mikesouth 09-05-2009 06:29 PM

learn your japanese history an american militry general was instrumental in the writing of their constitution (MacArthur)

$5 submissions 09-05-2009 06:36 PM

They should censor out the standard Japanese squealing/rape squeal in most JAV. WTF is wrong with showing females enjoying the sex and actively participating/bucking back? Watching japanese AV chicks squealing or making sounds like they don't like what's happening gets old quick. Anyone else get annoyed by this?

Tango 09-05-2009 06:47 PM

In Japan, under Article 175 of the Criminal Code of Japan people who sell or distribute obscene materials can be punished by fines or imprisonment. Article 175 was included in the original document in 1907 and remains relatively unchanged. Finding a workable definition for obscene has sparked much controversy over the last century. It is not uncommon for pictorial magazines to depict nude women with their genitalia airbrushed over in black, and video pornography routinely depicts explicit sex scenes with the participants' genitalia obscured by mosaics. Until the 1990s, the entire pubic region, including hair, was deemed obscene and unpublishable. The publication of Waterfruit and Santa Fe by Kishin Shinoyama marked the first widely distributed publications to feature pubic hair. Many video production companies belong to ethical associations which provide guidance on what is acceptable and what is not. NEVA and CERO are examples of two such organizations. In 2007, the police have started to prosecute webmasters who allow uncensored pictures on their sites. Recent controversies have frowned upon both pubic hair and even genitalia itself being displayed in works of art and in educational settings.

fatfoo 09-05-2009 07:39 PM

I guess the more extreme fetish stuff is censored more, eh.

Redrob 09-05-2009 07:43 PM

The censorship code said that you would not show pubic hair. It made no reference to the context in which pubic hair wouldn't be show, ie pubescent, shaved, mosiac, ect.

NinjaSteve 09-05-2009 07:59 PM

If you show a Japanese person (in Japan) western porn they freak out because it's too graphic.

Korea has even more censorship where the mosaic takes up a lot of the screen.

NickB. 09-05-2009 09:59 PM

nipporn.com - triplexcash.com - our uncensored japanese porn sells like a mofo

mikesinner 09-06-2009 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 16282907)
They should censor out the standard Japanese squealing/rape squeal in most JAV. WTF is wrong with showing females enjoying the sex and actively participating/bucking back? Watching japanese AV chicks squealing or making sounds like they don't like what's happening gets old quick. Anyone else get annoyed by this?

Japanese men actually like that.

Mutt 09-06-2009 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 16282594)
I don't think it really matters. AMP still converts better than anything I have ever seen.

you realize that every movie in that site is stolen?

LoveSandra 09-06-2009 01:52 AM

fuck japan

Antxx 09-06-2009 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16283632)
you realize that every movie in that site is stolen?

Like every other porn movies on the net. Some network P2P are specialized in porn. Still, having full movies is more intencive then just clips that can be download in a blink of an eye.

DRM have proven useless...Streaming is cumbersome. There isn't any viable solutions at the moment against P2P. Like they say: If you can't beat them, join them...Maybe a paying P2P could be a solution,

So, if we shave the guys pubis and women pussy there is no reason to put the censure. Someone needs to go to Japan and teach them how to shave. Who is paying ?

Fob 09-06-2009 08:33 AM

If they uncensor the porn, the prostitution industry would suffer! We can't have that!

SpicyM 09-06-2009 09:21 AM

consorship is what makes porn sell :2 cents:

LeRoy 09-06-2009 09:33 AM

No censorship on DTI Sites. We host all our JP content here in the US.

Some of our cam models though. They take it upon themselves to censor their goods.

Agent 488 09-06-2009 09:34 AM

yes japan got it wronged.

CaptainHowdy 09-06-2009 10:10 AM

The pixelation makes things much more interesting...

mikesinner 09-06-2009 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16283632)
you realize that every movie in that site is stolen?

lol, no they aren't. AMP is probably the oldest Japanese porn program out there. Everything is licensed primary or secondary. You're probably promoting some other site that uses their content illegally or that has a secondary license.

SpicyM 09-06-2009 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 16285467)
lol, no they aren't. AMP is probably the oldest Japanese porn program out there. Everything is licensed primary or secondary. You're probably promoting some other site that uses their content illegally or that has a secondary license.

The oldest? No fuckin way. I remember when they started.. and there were already several well known Japanese porn sites out there... including DTi.

directfiesta 09-06-2009 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatfoo (Post 16283081)
I guess the more extreme fetish stuff is censored more, eh.

well..... not all.

You cannot show a woman blowing a guy ( need to pixelise the penis ) ... but you can show the same girl blowing a dog ... no censorship ...:warning

mikesinner 09-06-2009 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 16285782)
The oldest? No fuckin way. I remember when they started.. and there were already several well known Japanese porn sites out there... including DTi.

Well not the oldest. I meant to say they are among the oldest but I'm not saying there weren't many programs already in existence.

Mutt 09-07-2009 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 16285467)
lol, no they aren't. AMP is probably the oldest Japanese porn program out there. Everything is licensed primary or secondary. You're probably promoting some other site that uses their content illegally or that has a secondary license.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

here ya go sport - i'm putting up $1,000 dollars for you to produce a license agreement between Soft on Demand and Asian Movie Pass. Produce it, let me verify that it's a legitimate legal document between Soft on Demand and AsianMoviePass and you have $1,000.

Secondary Internet licensing of top JAV studios - it doesn't exist and will never exist. Nobody was bigger in JAV on the Net than 99bb.com, the owner admitted to me in confidence that they had no licenses. The big hitters of the JAV industry have no interest in marketing to Westerners, you can't even buy a DVD from a JAV studio website if you're not from Japan.

Could somebody in the US be claiming to have rights to license DVD's? that's possible.

Davy 09-07-2009 06:48 AM

So you are saying the Japanese became weird sickos because of the censorship?

The Duck 09-07-2009 07:08 AM

Aah, pixelated pussy.

mikesinner 09-07-2009 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16287218)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

here ya go sport - i'm putting up $1,000 dollars for you to produce a license agreement between Soft on Demand and Asian Movie Pass. Produce it, let me verify that it's a legitimate legal document between Soft on Demand and AsianMoviePass and you have $1,000.

Secondary Internet licensing of top JAV studios - it doesn't exist and will never exist. Nobody was bigger in JAV on the Net than 99bb.com, the owner admitted to me in confidence that they had no licenses. The big hitters of the JAV industry have no interest in marketing to Westerners, you can't even buy a DVD from a JAV studio website if you're not from Japan.

Could somebody in the US be claiming to have rights to license DVD's? that's possible.

That's fucking crazy. I was going to make several big blogs with their fhgs. I already have over a dozen earning smaller blogs. What do I do now?

Mutt 09-07-2009 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 16288469)
That's fucking crazy. I was going to make several big blogs with their fhgs. I already have over a dozen earning smaller blogs. What do I do now?

i answered in your stats thread - keep promoting them, i have friends who promote all the JAV sites, i was just taking issue with AMP trying to tell people they have licensing agreements with the JAV studios in Japan.

the Japanese porn industry just ignores what we do in the Western porn industry.

i can find every release the major JAV studios release on forums and torrents. they do nothing to enforce their copyrights.


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