Move to UK or USA?
 

What are the pros and cons.

Anybody lives in a smaller city or town in any of these two countries.


(fed up by jelous socialism(

The UK is horrible, there are no pros. :) Move the USA.

switzerland

also +1 for USA.

Small town USA is horrible. I cannot think that you really want to live in an area known for its small mindedness after living in Sweden but just a thought.

The UK is like 1 big muslim country now.

They decide what happens, and the government bends over and kisses their ass.

I fear what it will be like here in the next 10 years...

I would have inc canada, as that way you have the canada life (national health, relaxed laws, and a drive into the usa).

but i would avoid the uk for many reasons.

our goverments has taken away everyones rights.

everything is taxed.

you get fined for everything, drive 35mph in a 30 zone and it will cost you a fortune in fines (via one of the speed cameras).

weather sucks

everything costs way too mch.

i disagree.

but the uk does bend over for any religion.

to be honest often its not the religions that want stuff its just moron chinless wonders (often some twit in the local coucil) who desides. ie, some councils baned chritmass lights in case it offended muslims. well the truth was no muslim asked them to be baned, and many enjoy the celibration and give presents.

its all religions that are couring problems in the uk, inc christianity, with silly christans trying to ban everything.

france has the right idea. religion is personal in france and should not affect others and the state. thus unlike in the uk you have no religiouse schools.

i have always wanted to live in a nice small usa town. i love the idea of everyone knowing each other and everyone being an almost an extended family.

If your family is mostly people with 2 digit IQ's who like to watch wrestling and nascar on TV, you will fit right in.

true

however if you want to be on the dole, then do a bit of crime, and have your kids run around threatening your naybours and selling tax free sigs to people then the uk is great as you will get away with it.

my advice is do not buy a car or have it insured, but steal them. this will save you a fortune, and the police will just give you a £30 at worst, wish you claim you cannot afford and end up not paying.

But if you come to the uk and work your daft. you will be taxed up to 50%. then after that you will have your coucil tax to pay for police trhat do not show up if a crime is comited against you, though they will be there if you eat an apple in your car, where they will bust you. then you are forced to pay for a tv licence even if you never watch bbc, and if you do not pay it you go to prison, yet if you steal a van, and ram road a shop to steal a tv, you will get 3 hours gardening.

if you do have any cash left then you can buy googs and food for 50 times more than you would pay in any other country.

but then you can enjoy uk food. full of E nombers which most countries have baned.

oh when i say they tax everything, petrol is taxed twice.

they even tax used food oil (again) if you use it in your car. so if you are given used food oil by the local fish and chips shop you have to pay the goverment tax on it if you use it in your car. so it does not incourage you to be green. in germany and most other eu countries you can use used oil in your car free.

that describes most people in the uk.

but joking aside, i do not think its as bad as you make out.

i guess there are good and bad things about most places.

i mean i like the idea of new york, but i could see you being very lonly there.

i think a small place you could feel at home.

how are you going to get a visa to live in the usa?

i will do a swap.

i would love to live in sweden.

whats not to love, its the home of ABBA and the swidish Chief.

What about Malta or domincan republic?



Seems USA or UK, is a bad idea. :(

Maybe I just stay at home, move to a new part of my country.

Been stuck for too long.

Well, nah, I decided to rethink.

France? I visited there last spring(damn cant remember) and it was major enjoyable.

Great building, just breath culture... but langauge?? I dont speak it.

i think enough people speak english these days in France to not to worry too much.

Its full of brits anyway.

English is spoken more and more in most countries.

I have a mate going to China, to teach English. She told me kids are not being tought English as standered now.

Care to tell us more ??

usa all the way

go somewhere warm and cheap. why waste your time in the overpriced west.

Despite being constantly screwed over by my own Mafia . . . sorry I meant government. I actually don't mind living in the UK I make good money working for myself and provide well for my family and that is all that really matters to me.

There are also some really beautiful places here to both visit and live if money permits.

what's the difference between small jealous socialist town vise small jealous capitalist town?

Potentiall more money to be made in USA, eh.

how are you going to get a visa to stay in the us or uk? hope you thought about that.

If you have nothing holding you down, go somewhere warm and live it up.. If you have a family, medium sized USA towns are sweet. I grew up in a city of like 35k and everyone still kinda knows everyone, rent is way cheaper than living in a bigger city and most of the time they still have everything you need when it comes to stores and shit, but usually you're only 30 minutes away from a city of bigger size.

Absolutely absurd.... seriously.. Muslims make up less than 3% of the UK population. And then they are mostly confined to the inner cities of the UK's larger towns and cities.

Most of the educated white middle classes have moved out to the nice neighbourhoods in the suburbs or village towns.

Canada would be a much better alternative than both the UK and USA.

Top rate of tax is 40% on all your earnings over 30k something.... Up to the 30k it's taxed at around the 20 mark I think... Everyone has a tax free amount of about 4-5k or so.

Yes... it's seems like a lot, but of course we get free healthcare... and a social system if we suddenly fall down on hard times or are sick.

But yes... lots of people abuse the system. I know guys that have never ever worked so yes, it's open to abuse.

I say move to the US, NC is a nice state we have big towns and small ones.

if he's swedish, he doesn't need a visa to live and work in the uk, as sweden is part of the eu.

The grass is always greener! Don't think there's more people in the world that are so anti-UK than the British lol

If you've got money then London is a great city, Manchester's also very cool and a little more laid back. Small "out in the country" type towns in the UK are very nice but stay away from large towns, usually full of Friday night drunks and lowlifes.

Why would anyone lives in Scandinavia would love to move US or Somewhere i don't get...

The weather?

Don't forget to add another 11% for National Insurance which is just another income tax in all but name.

Sorry but this lonelyness thing over bought imho,

i Grew up in a small town, then now it's going to be almost 6. years i live in a big city filled with more 15-18 milion people.

if You have enough self confidence, You'd make network at Work, school, Clubs, Parties etc, but if You afraid to talk people, You will end up as a loser no matter where ever You are.

Yea but You can cover it with a hollyday, Bet Scandinavia and Benelux Countries (including Nl) must be most liberal places to live,

so that's why i wouldn't trade it with anything :winkwink:

Sorry to break your bubble but the UK is run by 'socialists' and the current US President is Barack Obama, a former community organizer.

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why would you leave sweden? i heard all the ladies are hot, blonde & 6 feet tall.

Somebody here, a woman (a per "state leader"?, cant remember Eng word) gave a man that has a huge business the right to build a building on soil that was "reserve". In some remote area.

She admitted that she did it because, she taught we need more business builders, and that he was a great example.

Now the leftis went totally nuts, and it's on every tv channal. Yesterday I sat down to watch a debate of this.

People here in my country, just dont understand doing something without having a "degree".

A famous entrepreneur was on the phone by telephone wire( Johan Stael Von Holstein). He said that "starting a business in Sweden" is the worst in the world, and jelous people who don't understand the fundamentals of business.

Bascially that's what I detest with socialism too, that a party(election 2010) work for "the weak people".

Whcih in return just create and, and make people more weak.

Instead of speaking of the strong, brave, and the good examples. They has to speak of how poor some people have it, how we has to save money.

And most times, they has no rational solutions to these "poor" idologies.

Doh!! Socialism, why so jelous?, we can all start a business, get self employeed and so on.

That's what I had love to let people hear, and feel. Then "Mona Sahlin" can shut her duck mouth for a while, in the red party.

I know there are poor people in every country. It's just not blatant promotions of it, like it is here in Sweden. In UK or USA, alright? :)

On the other hand, Im not saying we should dump all the poor, and hurting people. Just that we has to get a middle ground somewhere about it.

I'm not even 6 foot tall. :Oh crap

Great question.

I could live in Greece.

That's a real laid back attitude I had enjoyed.


Anybody here lived in Greece, how is the Health care?

UK is shit. I live in Malta now, its not bad at all. Cheap to live if you want it to be but also you can chose to live a bit better. I have an amazing 3 bedroom condo fully furnished that I rent, location is perfect for me and its 900 euros a month. Thats on the more expensive side tho, you can get a really nice place for $650 depending where you live.

I would say move to the USA tho if you can, I would love to live in America. Toronto is another great place to live if you don't mind freezing cold winters.

Then perhaps not the UK :2 cents:

Here is Mona Sahlins playlist:


År(age) 1990: Anlitade svart dagmamma(hired a day mother that had no regged biz)


År 1993: Obetald tv-licens (Didnt pay her television-license, "gov channals")


År 1993: Två felparkeringar registrerade på obesiktad bil som har körförbud (two times wrong parked her car, on a car that she had no right to drive.)


År 1995: Privata kontantuttag på statens kreditkort (withdrawal for private use, of government funders money)


År 1995: Privata bilhyror på statens kreditkort (withdrawal for private use of car hire, of government funders money)



År 1995: Privata klädinköp på statens kreditkort (withdrawal for private use of clothing, of government funders money)


År 1995: Semester på Mauritius på skattebetalarnas bekostnad (Vacation on tax payers moeny)


År 1999: 98 (!) stycken obetalda parkeringsböter varav 32 fall gick till kronofogdemyndigheterna (98!! (DAMN) unpaid parking tickets, while 32 went to enforcement officer)


År 2000: Drygt 30 000 kronor i restskatt som inte betalades i tid (tax arrears of 3K$)


År 2001: Två obetalda räkningar som gick till kronofogden. ( Two unpaid bills that went to enforcement officer)


År 2001: Bilen belagd med körförbud, obesiktad och fordonsskatten ej betald ( Had no right to drive car, vehicle license, road tax, not paid.


År 2006: Dottern fick ett toppjobb som borde ha annonserats ut( her daughter was presented a top job, that should had been out advertised)


This is the pary leader of the social democrates. In Sweden

http://www.politikerbloggen.se/wp-co...ahlin-stor.png


Hey, do anybody in USA, or UK that their political leader could get away with all these, and still be productive political. And now run the socialist party, to become prime minister?

I do wonder, so give me a pin point of when or if somebody that has made mistake after mistake, had been flushed out. If ever. :thumbsup

What taxes do you pay?, health care, and crime.

Malta sounds great, but done no research, yet. :(

I can say that this lady is an angel in comparison with polish politics :glugglug

Then what sounds great? The name?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I meant, true research. I know a few things. Of it.

I am not THAT behind my world. :winkwink:

I'm not moving over boeard, over a sexy pronounced "name." :)