Why not save the industry?
 

When I saw V Rocks post in Porno Dans thread about out of work industry girls .... I thought

It's not just the models who are not that bright to begin with, its also the majority of biz owners content shooters and traffic people

There is no way in hell this industry dosent have enough resources to protect itself from the greediest people in the biz

Its so fuckin simple to me that it pains me to try to figure out why the adult industry has not created a body to govern the industry


The people who post on GFY alone can turn the industry around in a matter of months the posters here alone have no idea oftheir true power and that if we all work together ... we can increase profits for everyone... as I have said on this site in the past

Heres how:

#1 Black PR... with the massive amounts of trafficcontrolled by adult webmasters why dont spread rumors at every chance that torrents and certain tube sites carry viruses and other back doors ... post this on blogs and mainstream sites etc

#2 each person upload a trojan backdoor virus packed packagbe / torrent onceper month or more... thats a lot of infected computers

#3 Stop fuckin sleeping with the enemy... even if they pay for your next show pass and ket you sit in the big seat of a large limo... fuck em .. if they are fucking up the biz, a drink is not worth future profits

#4 let your current active members know that these tubes and torrents carry virus ... add value with information

#5 upload more viruses

#6 Let the owners of these sites know they are NOT ACCEPTED .. this industry has wayyy too many ass kissers and bandwagon riders instead of leaders thus as long as a person has a little traffic they are accepted at shows at parties where and whenever .. disown these guys



Some ofyou are not afraid because you are still making good coin and figure that the problem will fix itself with inovation ... but there is no way to fix this issue without actively fighting it.

If cable, food , cars, anything were free.... would you pay for it ? no

I say lets all band together seriously and confront the problem head on and save our industry.

I am willing to donate to the cause if someone seriously takes it upon themselves to step up to the plate and be the leader this industry needs ... to save itself from itself

/rant

are you saying we need Batman?

love it

"upload more viruses"

YES!!!

Or rather than doing something illegal we could just stop sending our traffic to programs that support tubes, torrents, pirates, cookie stuffers, etc, etc....

The problem with that is that whilst it sounds good, so long as someone is making money they really dont give a shit about longevity.

The threat of viruses would scare many people away from even paying for porn. Would never work. But at least you're thinking.

Trust PussyServer to not only be stupid enough to think we don't this is him but also suggest illegal activities as a way to "save the industry". What a fucking loser.

Scare surfers into not using free/illegal sites? Mhmm, I'm sure once we scare them with tons of viruses and "black pr," they'll all be rushing to pull out their credit cards and join paysites. ::sarcasm::

Your idea would basically end the world as we know it...but uh, nice try, keep at it.

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yeah the fud campaigns by MPAA and RIA have been so successful let just copy that business plan we should all get the same fantastic results.

right it not like those trackers have comment sections in them where the users will warn other downloaders about the virus ridden torrents.



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#3 Stop fuckin sleeping with the enemy... even if they pay for your next show pass and ket you sit in the big seat of a large limo... fuck em .. if they are fucking up the biz, a drink is not worth future profits
It not like one person will defect and choose to steal all your traffic by taking advantage of the situation.

IT not like those programs will start their own tube site/torrent sites to funnel the traffic to their own sites.

tell your active members about a place they can get porn for free.



you will never come up with an innovative solution with that attitude and there quite a few available.

I can understand your concerns about the legal limits of being proactive in this... however... sometimes you must fight fire with fire and do what you must

Tube sites and torrents operate outside the limits of the law and thus are not protected by the same.

We cannot jut sit ack and watch free content kill a billion dollar industry. Adult webmasters have always been at the forefront of inovation on the net


I think my idea is a solid idea ... even if it only scares 100 people away from those sites... word of mouth is very powerful when geek squad has to take your PC in for a weeek because you wanted to save 24.95

Someone suggested CP as a way to shut down the tubes...but this would be dangerous.

I disagree

You get what you pay for and plenty of software developers have already implemented this tactic in increasing their digital distro revenues

The problem with tubes and torrents is not the fact that they exist at this point ... its the fact that they are so easy to use and some are almost risk free.People would be more willing to pay for something if they know that stealing it carries some risk.

The same goes for software as porn on these torrent sites

If you knew that downloading an illegal torrent copy of CS4 would likely infect and kill your PC .. you would be more likely to just buy it

on the other hand if you downloaded a copy of CS4 from pirate bay and it crippled your system ... you wouldnot hold that against adobe

you would realize you should have just paid for it :2 cents:

viruses not a good idea. The problem is 85 percent of the businesses that have been put under the porn umbrella dont have porn's best interests at heart at all. Its not going to change it will just eventually all blow up and people will actually have the balls to say : what happened?

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yeah the fud campaigns by MPAA and RIA have been so successful let just copy that business plan we should all get the same fantastic results.



right it not like those trackers have comment sections in them where the users will warn other downloaders about the virus ridden torrents.





on your first point .. MPAA and RIA have no where near as much power and sway over surfers as adult webmasters. They outsourced their efforts to one lone company who used the same methods over and over again.


On the point of quite a few solutions being availible... please explain as I am looking to help anyway I can

If the conservatives had won the white house I believe that a few well placed files reported to a few choice reporters could have definitely shut down just about any site. This goes back to black PR .. but I am not sure the dems would jump as fast as the religous right would hope and the effort would be wasted if attacked from that angle


but at least they offered an idea

I agree 100%

was it over when the germans bombed pearl harbor?


HELL NO!

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He chugged a real bottle of whiskey apparently

why would you save the industry?

Says the marketing genius who's solution, as near as I can tell, is to brand watermarks on bug's asses and then have the bugs buzz around while the content is being shot :1orglaugh

Are you talking about only targeting Tubes that have illegal content, Tubes that have full length scenes or Tubes that have anything over a certain length of scene legal or not?

Let's daydream about a magic bullet that will get rid of all Tubes with illegal content. They will close down and sites with legal content will pick up the traffic and customers.

So let's keep dreaming and imagine we can get rid of any full length scene Tube site. The Tubes with 6 minute scenes will pick up a load of the traffic. If you disagree with this look back at all the experts who said putting too much hard core in a TGP was a bad move. If they were right the 6 minute scenes will appeal to many. If wrong so much for experts.

There is only one way to win customers back. That is to sell them something they want to buy and stop dreaming we can return to the days when they had to buy. And not just a few sites, the vast majority of the Adult Net Pay sites have to step up.

it too late to change anything. dumb webmasters keep making more "tubes" and calling them tubes. educating the consumer about to get your product without paying for it. smart. tube wasnt a household term for free porn till dumb webmasters made it that way. now there is a tube for everything.

Explain to me how a virus could be delivered via a tube site?

Is there a new flash virus we're unaware of? ;)

I said start rumors that tube sites infect your system

for instance, A post on a body building forum: "Yeah I went to porntube for 5 minutes and found out today from my computer guy that I now have a trojan virus on my system and that anybody can see my files he says it happens all the time"

I will never visit that site again

The plan is to go viral with black PR ...

I watched John Landis talking about this very incident on A&E the other day and he said it was indeed NOT alcohol but juice.

And hi PUSSYSERVER, lose any servers to images being hotlinked on GFY threads with 80 views lately?

You know what's funny is that I've noticed several people bitching on pornbb because of all the copyright "reporters" and from what i've seen there's only maybe 4 or 5 of us that actively police that site. But those 4 or 5 of us frustrated their users enough with dead links that they actually started fighting amongst themselves. They believed that it was other uploaders reporting their competition. They went as far as to consider banning certain file hosts. Now imagine if every studio would get off their fat fucking asses and send DMCAs every single fucking day.

Better yet, what if every studio found their one big 'Super Fan' and told him he would get every DVD they released and an occasional handjob if he'd police a set of sites for them?

One of the torrent sites I submit DMCAs to just recently banned one of their top 5 uploaders because he kept uploading a torrent of one of my clients movies. This site had added my client to their Forbidden list, yet this guy kept uploading it...so they banned him. The users on this site are starting to grumble about all the torrents being removed because when they load up Bit Torrent they are getting all kinds of error messages regarding unregistered torrents.

These piracy sites are eating our lunch because they are simply better than us at giving the surfers what they want. So since convenience is one of their major draws...how about we inject a little "frustration" into the surfer's experience? At the same time we build better sites with more ease and convenience at great prices.

Do you realize that many of the people going to piracy sites are foreign? For them, they have no other way of getting your content on DVD and everyone's pay sites are in nothing but English. How about making your new paysites in a buttload of different languages?

Just take control of your content and let these tubes try and survive with old shitty content from Wildlife and Acid Rain that they got from the wastebins of World Wide Content. Eventually they'll come to you begging for good content since no one in the history of ever has ever busted a nut after watching a video from Maverick.

Show some fucking ethics, stop working with fucking thieves, actually spend 8-10 hours a day doing WORK and stop fucking over customers with dishonest practices. This shit ain't rocket science.

Who let this idiot back?

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batman with cock in his hands

can't be saved

Best Post ive read about this topic so far...
 

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh and nobody commented on it cheers!

This post deserves it own thread :thumbsup

I see way tooo many studios not policing there content the ones that do still convert great the ones that don't are converting horribly :(

I'm surprised nobody is taking pussyserver seriously here! You guys realize he's a marketing guru in adult right?

The only way to do it is to stop the downloading of porn from members areas. I do not know if that is possible, but I guarantee you that if every porn site does it members will not disappear. They will return to view the pics that turn them on.

Control Panel? :helpme

Let's hope so!:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

That won't work. Reason: prisoner's dilemma.

Excellent post.

Do you send you DMCAs to pornbb's admins, or to their host, or to the file servers?

Filehost first to get the content taken down. If the filehost doesn't take action, then a 2nd DMCA is sent and the filehost's ISP is CC'd. There typically isn't a 3rd DMCA.

You can send DMCAs to pornbb and they'll actually delete threads. But don't do this until you've sent the DMCA to the filehost otherwise the files are still available. Pornbb is slow and doesn't always carry through with it, but most of the time they will. Even if they don't remove the thread, if the uploader re-ups the content it will bump it to the top of the forum so that you should be able to catch it again. If they don't remove the thread and you kill the links, then at least the post sits there with a few screenshots, almost like an advertisement. Just make sure that they can't find that movie in another thread.

And before you take on pornbb you absolutely must install the CCF container format decrypter. It will decrypt all the container formats that pirates use to mask URLs.

Almost all the posters on pornbb post the same links on 5 or 6 other forums as well, but you can use pornbb as a nice net to catch the majority of uploaders. They post to pornbb because it gets the most traffic and they need LOTS of downloads to meet the payout thresholds from filehosts.

I think someone else mentioned this, but I see pirates all the time say "Hey guys I have a 3 day pass to Reality Kings, I'll download as much as I can and upload it here".

How much would it hurt paysites if you didn't allow downloading by those on trial memberships? Do sites already do this?

Also, why not restrict an paysite login/pass if more than 2 IPs in one hour access it. That would seem to cut down on password traders trying to scrape your sites.

One crime doesn't deserve another.

Thanks for the detailed response.

So the uploaders do that to get payments from file hosts? Amazing... I heard about that, but somehow never thought that is for real.

your intentions are good, you are just in the wrong adult board.

Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.

Yep pretty much all the file hosts pay uploaders. Typical rate is $10 for 1000 downloads. There's lot of variations though. But you can find the details right on their sites.

Hotfile.com
depositfiles.com
megaupload.com
storage.to
netload.in
rapidshare.com
filefactory.com
easy-share.com
uploaded.to
uploading.com

Just a few of the more commonly used ones.