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theking 08-02-2009 05:14 AM

They have found the remains of the pilot that was shot down
 
...on the first day of the '91 Gulf War.

seeandsee 08-02-2009 05:19 AM

finally ...

crockett 08-02-2009 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16135279)
...on the first day of the '91 Gulf War.

The guy that was believed to have been captured but never released?

yep, guess so.. Capt. Michael "Scott" Speicher


I remember seeing a documentary on him..

DWB 08-02-2009 07:39 AM

At least his family will get some peace of mind. Too bad he died for nothing more than American greed.

Machete_ 08-02-2009 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16135858)
Too bad he died for nothing more than American greed.

I am pretty sure the people of kuwait see it differently

IllTestYourGirls 08-02-2009 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16135858)
At least his family will get some peace of mind. Too bad he died for nothing more than American greed.

91 Gulf War? The whole damn world was greedy then.

DWB 08-02-2009 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16135876)
I am pretty sure the people of kuwait see it differently

Yea, fine place it turned out to be. Bombings on the streets daily, mass murder, war, 100s of 1000s of civilian deaths ALL CAUSED BY U.S. MILITARY, the loss of their oil to foreign countries... yea, a glorious victory. :thumbsup


Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16135881)
91 Gulf War? The whole damn world was greedy then.

Even worse that he died from that war, as they didn't even finish the job of ousting a man who has less blood on his hands than either Bush did. But he still died for nothing. :Oh crap

Those wars (1 and 2), are as criminal as they come.

dyna mo 08-02-2009 07:56 AM

it's simplistic to blame everything on u.s.

brassmonkey 08-02-2009 08:00 AM

i lost friends in that war R.I.P.

Machete_ 08-02-2009 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16135909)
Yea, fine place it turned out to be. Bombings on the streets daily, mass murder, war, 100s of 1000s of civilian deaths ALL CAUSED BY U.S. MILITARY, the loss of their oil to foreign countries... yea, a glorious victory. :thumbsup

What the hell are you talking about? The civilian casualties were in Bagdad, not Kuwait

DWB 08-02-2009 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16136029)
What the hell are you talking about? The civilian casualties were in Bagdad, not Kuwait

:1orglaugh It's part 2 of the war. All for nothing. That was my point.

Hey, I'm happy for the pilots family that they found his body. I really am. But come on... he is 1 guy. Is it really worthy of national news? How many US soldiers were wounded TODAY? How many were killed? How many civilians did we murder TODAY?

Machete_ 08-02-2009 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16136167)
:1orglaugh It's part 2 of the war. All for nothing. That was my point.

Hey, I'm happy for the pilots family that they found his body. I really am. But come on... he is 1 guy. Is it really worthy of national news? How many US soldiers were wounded TODAY? How many were killed? How many civilians did we murder TODAY?

What the hell are you babeling about? This is about Michael "Scott" Speicher that went down in 1991 during Desert Storm. Where the coalition pushed the iraqi troops out of Kuwait and bombed the iraqi military in Iraq.

You then said "he did it for nothing" - Like hell he did. If it werent for people like Speicher, the people of kuwait would have been striped of their land, and most likely also their life + Iraq would control a large amount of the worlds Oil supply.. and you call that "nothing"

It's important to those of us who still have a moral, that we bring those back that goes to war for the country. We dont want to repeate the dirty history from WW2 + the vietnamwar where thousands of POW's we left behind alive in camps, to both the knowledge of the government and red cross. Thousands of american soldiers were killed or starved to death in those camps for political reasons.

~Ray 08-02-2009 08:56 AM

don't feed the American hating trolls

Machete_ 08-02-2009 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Ray (Post 16136217)
don't feed the American hating trolls

"American-hating trolls" or "American hating-trolls" ?

ParlourCash Karl 08-02-2009 09:31 AM

Finally closure to their suffering and loss R.I.P.

John-ACWM 08-02-2009 09:42 AM

Just saw it on the news.One answered question.

directfiesta 08-02-2009 10:05 AM

His status was changed again, to "missing/captured", on October 11, 2002, one day after the United States Congress authorized the use of military force in Iraq.

His possible situation became a more high-profile issue in the build-up to war. In March 2002, the Washington Times ran five successive front-page articles about it and on September 12, 2002 U.S. President George W. Bush mentioned Speicher in a speech to the United Nations General Assembly as part of his case for war against Iraq.

Despite the 2003 Invasion of Iraq and a major investigation on the ground there, Speicher's whereabouts were yet to be discovered.

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Slutboat 08-02-2009 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16136167)
:1orglaugh It's part 2 of the war. All for nothing. That was my point.

Hey, I'm happy for the pilots family that they found his body. I really am. But come on... he is 1 guy. Is it really worthy of national news? How many US soldiers were wounded TODAY? How many were killed? How many civilians did we murder TODAY?

good point

2012 08-02-2009 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16136167)
:1orglaugh It's part 2 of the war. All for nothing. That was my point.

Hey, I'm happy for the pilots family that they found his body. I really am. But come on... he is 1 guy. Is it really worthy of national news? How many US soldiers were wounded TODAY? How many were killed? How many civilians did we murder TODAY?

Recent events
Friday 31 July: 37 dead
Baghdad: bombs outside mosques kill 33.
Tameem
Kirkuk: car bomb kills 2 at market.
Ninewa
Mosul: roadside bomb kills 2.
JULY TOTAL: 418 CIVILIANS KILLED, INCLUDING 20 CHILDREN.
==============================================
24-Jul-2009 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Specialist Herberth A. Berrios-Campos Salman Pak - Babil Non-hostile
19-Jul-2009 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Lance Corporal Brandon T. Lara Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire
16-Jul-2009 3 | US: 3 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Specialist Daniel P. Drevnick Basra (COB Basra) - Basrah Hostile - hostile fire - indirect fire
US Specialist James D. Wertish Basra (COB Basra) - Basrah Hostile - hostile fire - indirect fire
US Specialist Carlos E. Wilcox IV Basra (COB Basra) - Basrah Hostile - hostile fire - indirect fire
13-Jul-2009 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Chief Warrant Officer Rodney A. Jarvis Baghdad Non-hostile - medical
08-Jul-2009 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Private Lucas M. Bregg Baghdad Non-hostile


http://www.icasualties.org/
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

brassmonkey 08-02-2009 10:43 AM

hahaha KrisH get'em :1orglaugh

SilentKnight 08-02-2009 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16135858)
At least his family will get some peace of mind. Too bad he died for nothing more than American greed.

Seems to me I remember a phrase from that era - "Coalition of the willing..."

GAMEFINEST 08-02-2009 10:59 AM

evil doers do evil things

lol

DWB 08-02-2009 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fartfly (Post 16136882)
Recent events
Friday 31 July: 37 dead
Baghdad: bombs outside mosques kill 33.
Tameem
Kirkuk: car bomb kills 2 at market.
Ninewa
Mosul: roadside bomb kills 2.
JULY TOTAL: 418 CIVILIANS KILLED, INCLUDING 20 CHILDREN.
==============================================
24-Jul-2009 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Specialist Herberth A. Berrios-Campos Salman Pak - Babil Non-hostile
19-Jul-2009 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Lance Corporal Brandon T. Lara Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire
16-Jul-2009 3 | US: 3 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Specialist Daniel P. Drevnick Basra (COB Basra) - Basrah Hostile - hostile fire - indirect fire
US Specialist James D. Wertish Basra (COB Basra) - Basrah Hostile - hostile fire - indirect fire
US Specialist Carlos E. Wilcox IV Basra (COB Basra) - Basrah Hostile - hostile fire - indirect fire
13-Jul-2009 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Chief Warrant Officer Rodney A. Jarvis Baghdad Non-hostile - medical
08-Jul-2009 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Private Lucas M. Bregg Baghdad Non-hostile


http://www.icasualties.org/
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

THAT should be on every channel right along with the fall pilot. :2 cents:

directfiesta 08-02-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 16137113)
Seems to me I remember a phrase from that era - "Coalition of the willing..."

.......

The term coalition of the willing is a post-1990 political phrase used to describe military or military/humanitarian interventions for which the United Nations Security Council cannot agree to mount a full UN peacekeeping operation. It has existed in the political science/international relations literature at least since UN peacekeeping operations began to run into deep trouble in 1993-94, and alternatives began to be considered. One early documented use of the phrase was by President Bill Clinton in June 1994 in relation to possible operations against North Korea, at the height of the 1994 stand-off with North Korea over nuclear weapons.[1]

It has been applied to the Australian-led INTERFET operation in East Timor, and, in its most well-known example by George W. Bush,[1] the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003.


:warning

DWB 08-02-2009 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 16137214)
possible operations against North Korea

Speaking of, I was just reading today in the Bangkok Post that North Korea has built two facilities in Myanmar (Burma) for nuclear weapons. Or something along those lines. :helpme

DWB 08-02-2009 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16137197)
THAT should be on every channel right along with the fall pilot. :2 cents:

I meant to say FALLEN pilot. Ye old fingers got lazy on me.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 08-02-2009 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16135936)
it's simplistic to blame everything on u.s.

sometimes the simplest answer is the right one... :2 cents:


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